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[Shadow Fox]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

In a magical kingdom where mages can burn you to death with just a thought. Realism is not exactly what I'm looking for in a fantasy video games. I like how the weapons don't follow the law of physics. They allow the designers to make distintive look for the weapons that otherwise wouldn't be practical in combat situation. As bad as some of the weapons are, they're no where near the ridiculousness of Final Fantasy's weapons.

*where's the like button.

[Druss99]

I'd prefer more historically accurate weaponry. Giant swords with handles almost as thick as a thigh aren't to my tastes at all. Just give me a good bastard sword and I'm happy.

[Mr Fixit]

Cyberfrog81 wrote...

I can deal with "cartoony" and "over-the-top" if it suits the game in question.

DA2 seemed to want to tell a serious story about a refugee and his or her many challenges in a dangerous city. The massive amount of almost pathetically cartoony violence doesn't fit.

Which brings us to the classical concept of decorum, which I'd say has merit in this case: the notion that style has to be appropriate to subject.

[Shadow Fox]

Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

Maclimes wrote...

Not me. I LIKE the stylized, large weapons. I like to be able to see a real visual difference in the awesome, magical, ancient gear I am picking up. It should LOOK ancient and powerful.

However, I don't want it to go too far that way. I'm not looking for FF7-style, mountain-sized swords.

Just unique and not-necessarily-realistic weapons. I care less about realism than I do about "coolness factor". I would say in that regard, DA2 hit it pretty darn close to the mark for me.

Agreed. I thought the weapons in DA2 were badass. I have to laugh whenever people want to keep video games "realistic." lol. 

The weapons in Kingdoms of Amalur were similarly awesome, plus they were all magical/fantastic etc. 

All this talk about historical accuracy and so forth is just funny. It's a fantasy game! There is no historical accuracy! pfffffff lol. 

I'm sorry but I'd rather play around with this:




Those who disagree can keep their teensy weensy swords. heh.

Yessssss 

[Shadow Fox]

Nizaris1 wrote...

It is ok for a full fantasy environment game like Final Fantasy or whatever game have unrealistic weapons, but Dragon Age is NOT the whole fantasy environment, it still bound to Medieval Europe theme.

King Arthur and the Knight of Round Table cannot have oversized wsword or alien looking weapon although they have Merlin and magic in it. Their armor cannot be spiked here and there, super sexy for women, and oversized making their head look small. They still using realistic medieval Europe weapon and armor.

Similar with any Roman/Greek Myth based game, still must using Roman/Greek sword and shield with Roman/Greek like armor, or else it will look not realistic, even there are minatour and 7 headed dragon in it.

because of the theme, Dragon Age is NOT Final Fantasy

That's ridiculous there's no such thing as full fantasy.

[The Hierophant]

Yes please, the greatswords had ridiculous hilts in DAO, and DA2 multiplied them x10.

[iSignIn]

Nizaris1 wrote...

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...
Weapons?

Pff, we mages don't need your puny weapons.

Gandalf disagree

Sword + Staff for Mages would be awesome. I doubt it will happen though.

Rapier for Rogues would be more likely. A refreshing 3rd weapons option apart from Dual Daggers & Archery.

Modifié par iSignIn, 06 octobre 2012 - 12:58 .

[Mr Fixit]

Nizaris1 wrote...


There is, if the game developer making a whole new world not related to any real world theme, then that is full fantasy.

example, no real world looking trees in the game, no real world looking buildings, no real world looking wahatever being put in the game, that is total fantasy

What about gravity? Does life have to be carbon-based? Is there a magnetosphere around the planet to protect against cosmic radiation?

I'm not kidding.

[Barbantious]

There better be rapiers in DA3, it's ridiculous that in DA2 the main icon for the duelist specialization is a picture of a rapier hilt, yet no rapiers exist and you are forced to use two daggers instead.

Oh, and as far as realistic weapons go, im all for it, just as long as they look unique. I'd prefer not having seven different types of daggers that look relatively realistic but the only difference between them is that one is copper colored and the other is silver.

[iSignIn]

Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

I'm sorry but I'd rather play around with this:

Oh look, a giant Boomerang designed with poor aerodynamics!

[Mr Fixit]

Nizaris1 wrote...

What about gravity? Does life have to be carbon-based? Is there a magnetosphere around the planet to protect against cosmic radiation?

I'm not kidding.

If everyone is looking for unrealistic fantasy thing, why not the developer making every trees in the game look like lolipop and candy cane? making all buildings made off chocolate and wafer?

So be realistic is important even for a fantasy medieval themed world.

Oh, I agree.

I was just messing with you on account of that 'full fantasy' thing.

[Mr Fixit]

Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

That's a faeblade, not a boomerang.

Really? I thought it's a batleth, as this fine picture shows.

[DeathScepter]

Mr Fixit wrote...

Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

That's a faeblade, not a boomerang.

Really? I thought it's a batleth, as this fine picture shows.

you won the internet

[Dreadstruck]

So "it's a fantasy", well okay.

Let's just add talking ponies with laser beams on their heads as well. How about a giant pretzel with two humongous morningstars in each hand and call him a romancable companion?
Or maybe have our hero dual wield 2 Qunari greatswords while he breakdances on top of his opponents with giant bipedal cows on each of his legs ala Raiden in MGS4?

Just because some people keep abusing that washed up excuse "It's a fantasy" doesn't mean we have to throw a bit of authenticity out of the window.

Yeah, I am all in for some of that crazy stuff but let's keep some restraint, now shall we? I believe non-ridiculous weapons still have a place in this franchise.

Besides, it's up to Bioware if they decide to go with this style, so it's not like my opinion matters that much in the end *shrugs*

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 06 octobre 2012 - 02:05 .

[EpicBoot2daFace]

whykikyouwhy wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

whykikyouwhy wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

When stuff is too over the top, like the combat in DA2, it undermines other aspects of the game that try to be realistic.

But people have different perspectives for what is "over the top" as well as "too over the top."

I think most people would agree that DA2's combat was over the top. The only thing that people have to decide for themselves is whether or not that's a negative or positive.

It's quite a generalization to say what "most people" would agree on, no matter what the topic.

I said I think most people would agree. I truly do.

[Realmzmaster]

Where does it say that because my world is partially modeled after a period of time I must have weapons that match that time period in a fantasy game. Games like Arcanum: of Steamworks and Magick Obscura from Troika would disagree with you. The game is based on Victorian times but has both the combination of technology and magic. The protagonist is able to use both. The weapons vary greatly in that world. The setting is the world of Arcanum. The inhabitants is a who's who of Tolkein races. The world has buildings just like in Victorian times. The dress is Victorian. The world is entering its industrial revolution.

The developers decided weapons from magic to firearms would be available. Another example is Silverfall from Monte Cristo. Same mix of technology and magic.

The developers can decide the type and size of the weapon and how it appears in their world. I agree with StM that an explanation should be given. For example the steel used in making the over sized weapon has lyrium worked into it to lighten the weight and make it easier to handle.

Modifié par Realmzmaster, 06 octobre 2012 - 01:56 .

[mordy_was_here]

In all honesty, I'd rather not look like I'm swinging a Christmas tree, lights and all. But, my two cents and all that.

Modifié par Mel213, 06 octobre 2012 - 02:00 .