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[Confused-Shepard]

With the running and the jumping and the dodging and the slashing and the MAAAAGIIICC!! 
I mean KOA was just as much an RPG as Dragon Age if a bit more towards Diablo style loot collection...

Yay or nay?

[wsandista]

No.

[Nyxia]

No.
As much as I want to jump in video games, I want Dragon age 3 to keep its gameplay style.

[Confused-Shepard]

What exactly would we lose by going in that direction? Less emphasis on stats on more on skill?

[wsandista]

Confused-Shepard wrote...

What exactly would we lose by going in that direction? Less emphasis on stats on more on skill?

We would lose combat being determined by character skill.

Nyxia wrote...

No.
As much as I want to jump in video games, I want Dragon age 3 to keep its gameplay style.

I wanted DA2 to keep the system from DAO. I loathe the gameplay in DA2.

Modifié par wsandista, 06 octobre 2012 - 03:15 .

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Yes.

I think it's a great idea and the natural next step if Dragon Age wants to have visceral, in-your-face combat.

[Shadow Fox]

Don't see why not Amalur's combat was pretty much a better DA2.

Just don't expect this idea to get much support around here.

[wsandista]

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Don't see why not Amalur's combat was pretty much a better DA2.

Just don't expect this idea to get much support around here.

KoA actually did a very good job with an action combat system, while DA2 did a ******-poor hybrid system.

Modifié par wsandista, 06 octobre 2012 - 03:18 .

[marshalleck]

yeah, they need to step it up a bit. Maybe take some direction from god of war series or bayonetta

Modifié par marshalleck, 06 octobre 2012 - 03:25 .

[Fast Jimmy]

marshalleck wrote...

yeah, they need to step it up a bit. Maybe take some direction from god of war series or bayonetta

No one should take direction from Bayonetta. On anything. For any reason. Ever. Period.

[The Hierophant]

If Bio's going to go full blown action then they should copy Dragon's Dogma's combat system while keeping their own companion tactics.

Modifié par The Hierophant, 06 octobre 2012 - 03:30 .

[MillKill]

I'd love to see it. The Combat was the best part of that game, although it seemed mostly borrowed from God of War. It would be a significant improvement over the simple but fun hack-and-slash of DA2 and a huge improvement over the horrible mess of DAO. My only real complaint is that I'm not sure how it would work in a party system, which I'd like to keep.

However, don't expect this to get much support on the BSN. Many people here are operating under the belief that learning combat mechanics from action games that are devoted to delivering the best combat possible is somehow sacrilege. They consider a game to not be a "True Rpg" unless the combat is slow and clunky. Origins failed miserably at being tactical and 2 went for a smoother, more actiony approach. If you can't make the combat tactical, I don't see a reason not to make gameplay better as an action game other than trying to figure out how party members would work.

Remember that Mass Effect's combat was far better when it stopped trying to be a shooter-rpg hybrid and became a shooter with RPG elements.

Modifié par MillKill, 06 octobre 2012 - 03:32 .

[JerZey CJ]

Yes.
If they're going to keep DA2 style of combat, may as well take notes from a game that did it pretty well.

[Cutlass Jack]

Confused-Shepard wrote...

What exactly would we lose by going in that direction? Less emphasis on stats on more on skill?

Companions and control over them in combat would be the main thing. Companions in KoA were both temporary and useless.

[Realmzmaster]

No, because then it no longer depends on the character's skill, but the gamer's skill. DA2 is far as I wish to go in that department.. If my character does not have the Archery skill or sucks at it, gamer skill should not be able to compensate for that lack.

[MillKill]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Confused-Shepard wrote...

What exactly would we lose by going in that direction? Less emphasis on stats on more on skill?

Companions and control over them in combat would be the main thing. Companions in KoA were both temporary and useless.

They were also pretty useless in the more action-oriented Jade Empire. I suppose the best system would be to bring companions up to the power level of the PC and allow free switching between them.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

yeah, they need to step it up a bit. Maybe take some direction from god of war series or bayonetta

No one should take direction from Bayonetta. On anything. For any reason. Ever. Period.

You are kidding yourself.



Imagine doing that to an Ogre in Dragon Age 3?

Positively mouth watering. It's a fantastic place to look at if you want to improve and lead classic RPG combat away from the Dark Ages.

Modifié par CrustyBot, 06 octobre 2012 - 03:54 .

[Fast Jimmy]

CrustyBot wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

yeah, they need to step it up a bit. Maybe take some direction from god of war series or bayonetta

No one should take direction from Bayonetta. On anything. For any reason. Ever. Period.

You are kidding yourself.



Imagine doing that to an Ogre in Dragon Age 3?

Positively mouth watering. It's a fantastic place to look at if you want to improve and lead classic RPG combat away from the Dark Ages.

You are RIGHT! My mouth is watering...


...oh. Wait, no. Sorry. That's bile. 

[TsaiMeLemoni]

That could be interesting, and offer up some nice variability in combat.

As for taking queues from Bayonetta....I know DA isn't a series based in reality, and I certainly don't play it for realistic combat, but that's just a bit too fantastic and over the top imo.

[DarkDragon777]

No.

[thesnake777]

Too fable-ish for my tastes honestly...koa combat was better then fables but still way to similar..I will take tactical combat.

[LolaLei]

I'd be good with whatever, although KOA's fighting style does look fun!

Modifié par LolaLei, 06 octobre 2012 - 04:26 .