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[PaulSX]

No, I think that game was awful.

[Shadow Fox]

suntzuxi wrote...

No, I think that game was awful.

*cries*

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

suntzuxi wrote...

No, I think that game was awful.

*cries*

There, there. It's okay, the mean man is gone. KOA was a good game and the world had a lot of potential.

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 06 octobre 2012 - 06:23 .

[Dirty Whore]

why do action gamers even want to play dragon age? Ive never understood that...

is it because of the dating sim mechanics; do modern action games with animu style combat not have those options?

[PaulSX]

Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

Dirty **** wrote...

why do action gamers even want to play dragon age? Ive never understood that...

is it because of the dating sim mechanics; do modern action games with animu style combat not have those options?

At the rise of DAO, Bioware gave its players the option of choosing between tactics or action. Bioware spread the game to both demographics - those who love tactics and those who love action. Thus, there is the option of using action-based combat. That's why action gamers enjoy playing Dragon Age.

A better question is: Why do people who hate romances in games love playing Dragon Age? 

Romances are optional and never a major selling point. I believe most people love dragon age because of the settings and role playing elements. 

[Dirty Whore]

I'm all for options...but when I see Bayonetta cartoony bullsh*t or threads dedicated to kingdoms of Amalur style combat in a cRPG, my goddamned soul dies.

and btw, i love having romances in games...

but when I can rub my vagina and poke my ****** into everything and anything just because of fanservice then...yeah, f*ck the fans. BSN is as bad as the rpg codex in terms of the quality of its people.

I mean seriously, are these like the polluted shores of the internet where all the human waste washes up? I feel ridiculous and dumber every time I read a thread here.

[Biotic Sage]

I like God of War and Ninja Gaiden (the first 3d Ninja Gaiden at least). But that combat doesn't belong in Dragon Age. It's a different type of game altogether. That's like asking if the next Zelda game should be a first-person shooter with no puzzles. I'm sure we can all play great first-person shooter/no puzzle games, but why on earth would you make Zelda into one? By the same token, I'm sure Bioware could make a great action game with a Dragon Age skin pasted onto it, but the essence of Dragon Age is real-time tactical pause and play combat and branching dialogue.

[AppealToReason]

F no.

[MillKill]

Dirty **** wrote...

why do action gamers even want to play dragon age? Ive never understood that...

is it because of the dating sim mechanics; do modern action games with animu style combat not have those options?

Gamers are not rigidly seperated into groups of action gamers and rpg gamers, There is a great deal of crossover. There is also no reason that rpgs shouldn't see what works in action games and try to incorporate those elements simply because those elements come from action games. If it improves the game, then do it. These statements that rpgs are not allowed to have fast or fluid combat are just encouraging stagnation.

[Biotic Sage]

MillKill wrote...

Dirty **** wrote...

why do action gamers even want to play dragon age? Ive never understood that...

is it because of the dating sim mechanics; do modern action games with animu style combat not have those options?

Gamers are not rigidly seperated into groups of action gamers and rpg gamers, There is a great deal of crossover. There is also no reason that rpgs shouldn't see what works in action games and try to incorporate those elements simply because those elements come from action games. If it improves the game, then do it. These statements that rpgs are not allowed to have fast or fluid combat are just encouraging stagnation.

RPGs should definitely be allowed to have fast and fluid combat.  KoA was designed this way.  Tactical pause and play RPGs like Dragon Age can't rely on twitch combat skills though because the pausing and time it takes to make tactical decisions disrupts the flow of fast, full-player control combat.  The original Mass Effect straddled this line to its own gameplay woes, luckily ME2 and ME3 committed to a side and rolled with it (the real time, full-player control twitch combat side), and were much better as a result.

[Realmzmaster]

MillKill wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

RPG combat is stat-driven combat.  Twitch elements have no place.

I see little reason to refuse to use a certain combat system that might improve the game because of an arbitrary segregation of "Twitch elements" from rpgs.

How is it arbitrary? If my character does not know how to use a bow no amount of player skill should enable the character to use the bow. If my character does not know how to effectively use a shield. The player skill should not compensate for that.
If my character is down right stupid the character should not be able to solve a puzzle even if I the player can.

[Shadow Fox]

Dirty **** wrote...

why do action gamers even want to play dragon age? Ive never understood that...

is it because of the dating sim mechanics; do modern action games with animu style combat not have those options?

<_<*attempts to force choke through internet*

Modifié par Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke, 06 octobre 2012 - 07:23 .

[Little Princess Peach]

I liked KoA, the combat was nice because it felt less controled, what I mean is, it was fluent and you did noot feel so closed in, the combat style you could move anywhere on the battle filed and cast as much magic as you needed, in DA2 I felt I was moving in blocks...

[Realmzmaster]

So basically some of the posters here are saying gamers like Hanz54321 are just SOL. Just one more series of games that the physically challenged cannot play. Bioware has been very good about making their Dragon Age games accessible.
CDProjectk went in the opposite direction with Witcher 2. It went from a mouse controlled game as one of the options to keyboard -mouse game with movement controlled by the WASD keys. Bethesda is another on my list of companies that did this Arena and Daggerfall could be controlled with the mouse entirely. Morrowind came out and that was no longer possible.

Now this may not sound like a big deal to some of the posters but if you have these limitations it becomes a very big deal.

I strongly am against any combat system that does not take accessibility into consideration. I am still wanting for a mod for Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim that allows the games to played with mouse only.

[Blue Gloves]

I won't lie- I like me some tactics based combat. My favorite game of all time is the original (US released) Fire Emblem for GBA, which is a turn based tactics game, so my preference for combat would not be KoA style. In DAO, my least favorite bits are the prologue and Ostagar combat b/c I can't set up my field, lay traps and whatnot, and I HATED the absolute lack of tactical gameplay in DAII. (I barely managed to finish my first hour of play w/out throwing my controlling across the room. Stupid enemies spawning directly behind my carefully placed mages!) That said- I'd take KoA style combat over DAII style any day of the week. IMO, KoA fighting was the vastly improved version of what they were trying for in DAII.

[Xewaka]

Bioware is the only company that still does pause-and-play tactical gameplay with full party control. I'd rather we keep that.

[philippe willaume]

Confused-Shepard wrote...

With the running and the jumping and the dodging and the slashing and the MAAAAGIIICC!! 
I mean KOA was just as much an RPG as Dragon Age if a bit more towards Diablo style loot collection...

Yay or nay?

no, in fact Hell no

[Xewaka]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
I found KoA's combat to be very bland and unfun. I want DAIII to play like DAII except with encounters designed with more time and care than the one week before cert allowed. I have never found a combat system that's as fun to play and interesting to think about.

I have to introduce you to Seventh Sea.

[Tairn Logain]

nonononono...NO.

DAO style combat!!!

[SeanBahamut]

No thank you

[nightcobra]

i reaaally liked KOA combat system, i would love a dragon age game with that fighting system in mind. a cousin of mine managed to mod (although with lots of glitches afterwards) to create clones of the main character (then spec them in different ways) and basically outfit them with ally npc AI as well as inputting a shortcut button to change the main character (like how you change character control in DA) and it was....Glorious.

running around through vast environments with a party of a warrior, a warrior/mage hybrid, a rogue and a mage.
sooooo much fun:D

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 06 octobre 2012 - 08:52 .