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#26
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I agree with the OP for some reason...

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darkpassenger2342

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i guess OP forgot this was the anonymous internet and not a mass effect multiplayer support group.

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Eriseley

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Hang on, I'm not clear on whether you like me or not.

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ManRightChea

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Not worried about protections, and no kaileena I don't particularly believe that. Despite what you might be thinking, nothing has sparked this thread. However, BSNers in general have got to be some of the most negative, overly critical ****s any gaming board has ever seen. It is truly a wonder BW does anything for any of you.

Meist_chef, at least with someone like that you know what you are getting. I'd rather acknowledge someone that is honest (even if always negative), than to acknowledge 2-faced snakes in the grass. I think it is hypocritical.

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I agree with the OP, 110%.

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The Krauser wrote...

I'll go get more popcorn and mochi crunch.

Bring caramel corn please, this is going to be fun.

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Garland7A

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I have to admit though, BSN wasn't always like this =(

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OblivionDawn

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ManRightChea wrote...

However, BSNers in general have got to be some of the most negative, overly critical ****s any gaming board has ever seen.


Then you've seen exactly one gaming board.

Welcome to the internet, buddy.

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Vhyle wrote...

I agree with the OP, 110%.

Well I think you're being 10% too agreeable.

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ManRightChea wrote...

Meist_chef, at least with someone like that you know what you are getting. I'd rather acknowledge someone that is honest (even if always negative), than to acknowledge 2-faced snakes in the grass. I think it is hypocritical.


As a developer I think they'd rather see these so-called "2-faced snakes" because they provide some kind of feedback:
- if the game features something new or something they wanted, they approve
- if the game has something they wanted fixed and it isn't, they whine

Being negative all the time means there's no valuable feedback from them at all, because no matter what you do this group remains dissatisfied, eg:
- if the game features something new or something they wanted, they whine
- if the game has something they wanted fixed and it isn't, they whine

Are you seriously telling me you'd rather have the 2nd group of people?

edit: Also, I fail to see how someone who's sometimes positive/negative is necessarily less honest than someone who's always negative.

Modifié par Meistr_Chef, 06 octobre 2012 - 07:31 .


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Eriseley wrote...

Vhyle wrote...

I agree with the OP, 110%.

Well I think you're being 10% too agreeable.


Nope.

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ManRightChea wrote...

I don't like you guys, well at least most of you. What I have noticed about the people on this site, is that you guys are so cynical, so overly critical of everything BW does, it really is something that annoys me to no end about RPG fans in general. The attitudes on this board are terrible, but here's the kicker. AS SOON as BW announces something or anything you remotely approve of, you do a complete 180 and become the biggest nutswingers the galaxy has ever known.

Its no wonder Bioware devs have had enough of you clowns, talk about some two-faced people. BIOWARE DOESN'T OWE ANY OF YOU A DAMN THING. So get that in your head. Thank you.


There are always nitpickers around, but making "mistakes" like bioware did in the past empowers them to speak for the majority.
Also if you manage to alienate the of core your fanbase, they will to the very least stop defending you. Letting you alone to deal with the critics. Even worse your fans will join them.

This should balance itself out in time though. Its up to bw. 

Modifié par Grubas, 06 octobre 2012 - 07:28 .


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Well then. I'll be on my way good sir.

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fighting negativity with negativity just creates argument and more negativity. no matter where you go there will always be douchebags that try and argue and annoy and nitpick every little thing for no apperent reason. As if it is thier purpose in life to try and make the world around them as miserable as possible. both in and out of the internet, these often spoil the experince for everyone, true BW has done much right and some wrong. but generally I find BSN just has a few to many trolls, most of these people are very humporus in many threads. and are often meaning to be sarcastic and lighten the mood instead of being mean. There are haters who dont even bother to use lgic and just say NO OMFG THTS STUPID (prothean haters I'm looking directly at YOU). and no one likes it, but we have to deal with them and find the people who will support, or at least be logical about these things. I find most of them over on the fan creation fourms, weapons and characters being designed, showered in praise and criticised where its needed. I understand your rage, but countering it with rage doesnt make peace.

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Meistr_Chef wrote...

ManRightChea wrote...

Meist_chef, at least with someone like that you know what you are getting. I'd rather acknowledge someone that is honest (even if always negative), than to acknowledge 2-faced snakes in the grass. I think it is hypocritical.


As a developer I think they'd rather see these so-called "2-faced snakes" because they provide some kind of feedback:
- if the game features something new or something they wanted, they approve
- if the game has something they wanted fixed and it isn't, they whine

Being negative all the time means there's no valuable feedback from them at all, because no matter what you do this group remains dissatisfied, eg:
- if the game features something new or something they wanted, they whine
- if the game has something they wanted fixed and it isn't, they whine

Are you seriously telling me you'd rather have the 2nd group of people?


No, I'd rather not be around either, but unlike me, BW seems beholden to please even these most undeserving people from etiher control group.

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OblivionDawn wrote...

ManRightChea wrote...

However, BSNers in general have got to be some of the most negative, overly critical ****s any gaming board has ever seen.


Then you've seen exactly one gaming board.

Welcome to the internet, buddy.



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Yuuup completely agree, so many people love to complain about anything and everything. So many people (not everyone) give the company and the hard working people no credit when it is deserved. What bothers me most is when it goes beyond constructive feedback and resorts to insulting the company and the developers.

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Oooh. A thread whining about those who whine. How refreshing. Haven't seen one of those in thirty seconds or so.

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It makes me wonder how many of these people are even true BW fans at all, or are they all just a cancer that attached themselves to this series after ME2 or 3....

I really kinda pisses me off that these people may have had a significant impact on the future of BW games, will we ever even see masterpieces like KoToR, Jade Empire or DA1 again. It really annoys me man.

Modifié par ManRightChea, 06 octobre 2012 - 07:37 .


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ManRightChea wrote...

Meistr_Chef wrote...

ManRightChea wrote...

Meist_chef, at least with someone like that you know what you are getting. I'd rather acknowledge someone that is honest (even if always negative), than to acknowledge 2-faced snakes in the grass. I think it is hypocritical.


As a developer I think they'd rather see these so-called "2-faced snakes" because they provide some kind of feedback:
- if the game features something new or something they wanted, they approve
- if the game has something they wanted fixed and it isn't, they whine

Being negative all the time means there's no valuable feedback from them at all, because no matter what you do this group remains dissatisfied, eg:
- if the game features something new or something they wanted, they whine
- if the game has something they wanted fixed and it isn't, they whine

Are you seriously telling me you'd rather have the 2nd group of people?


No, I'd rather not be around either, but unlike me, BW seems beholden to please even these most undeserving people from etiher control group.


If a significant portion of your customers are pissing you off, you have only a few real choices:
- suck it up and try to please them and stay in business
- tell them to f off; get out of the business

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The Krauser wrote...

I'll go get more popcorn and mochi crunch.


You in Hawaii??

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ManRightChea

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double post.

Modifié par ManRightChea, 06 octobre 2012 - 07:42 .


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meesterevans

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Honestly I think the negativity and criticism with the Mass Effect fans boils down to the fact that it is an RPG community. I go to other forums and NOT ONE PERSON complains about DLC being available on day one where in this community everyone had themselves a sissy fit over it.

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ManRightChea wrote...

It makes me wonder how many of these people are even true BW fans at all, or are they all just a cancer that attached themselves to this series after ME2 or 3....

I really kinda pisses me off that these people may have had a significant impact on the future of BW games, will we ever even see masterpieces like KoToR, Jade Empire or DA1 again. It really annoys me man.



WOOOOOooooooo hold on there COWBOY!!! i go back to Baldur's Gate with BW....but are you tryin to say if you AINT O.G. with BW...you aint a TRUE FAN??

sounds like some elitist ****** stuff to me.

and though i find it funny how a large portion of community pisses and moans over everything AND then cheers when they get their way....YET after a short time they are back to pissing and moaning CUZ THEY GOT THEIR WAY....THE OP/TC pisses me off.

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Meistr_Chef wrote...

If a significant portion of your customers are pissing you off, you have only a few real choices:
- suck it up and try to please them and stay in business
- tell them to f off; get out of the business


OR you make the game that you as a company have been known for, and your true fans will support you as they have. Tell everyone else to **** off if they don't like it.

Now I know that in business certain concessions must be made, but despite popular belief the customer is NOT always right.

@corporal_doody - There you go, let the anger out. Maybe you should do better to do so in the future. help me pick up a torch and burn some of these leeches off.

Modifié par ManRightChea, 06 octobre 2012 - 07:47 .