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I just loved DA Origins, but did not really like DA2. I liked the story, the new armor, the new weapons, the spells, and there was not much else. I always play as a mage, and even though I liked the way the mage was done, I did not like the "twirling" of the staff at the end of a fight/battle. I also did not like that there was 1 dungeon used for 12 different quests. I did like the 2-handed warrior in DA2 better, for he could move faster, but alot of the moves reminded me of acrobats.

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Bfler wrote...

Mike 9987 wrote...

Kestral wrote...

So another words, DA 3 is going to be like DA 2. Thanks all.


I know right? How dare they make a sequal like the previous game. What blasphamy is this? 


I think she means that it will be political focus (mages vs templars) and not fantasy focus (darkspawn).


Amen to that

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The survey leak makes me suspect the plot will actually end up being quite similar to DA:O's in broad outline, even if it's big bad won't be an archdemon.

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iakus wrote...

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So another words, DA 3 is going to be like DA 2. Thanks all.


Like DA2 in that there won't be a BLight, most likely. But while we don't have a lot of clues about what's going to happen, what we know (or suspect) indicates it won't be much like DA2 either.

It looks like we'll be traveling more extensively.  Likely throughout Orlais and perhaps other nations as well.

Assuming it is primarilly in Orlais:

We appear to be dealing with a civil war within the chantry (mages vs templars)

There may be a more standard rebellion taking place against the empress as well.

 Mark of the Assassin may set up qunari involvement. in Orlesian politics

I should also mention the Dales are in the southeaster portion of Orlais.  We could learn more about elves and the Dalish.

In other words, DA3 could potentially involve many different things.


That would be sweet.  I just hope DA3 is as good as DA Origins and alot better than DA2.

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she looks like that because in DA2 she's a couger how else do you think she had all those kids, Anyway on topic she could be a archdemon couldn't she? I mean i don't think there is a rule stating that every archdemon is actually a dragon.

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Eveangaline wrote...

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WARNING POSSIBLE SPOILER!

t's possible to have another blight especially if the father is still alive from DA;A because he did start the last one with his darkspawn ritual, And if you have did the dark ritual with morrigan her son has the soul of the old god which could also trigger another blight.


According to lore, the Archdemon we killed in DA Origins, Urthemiel was supposed to have a daughter, yet according to Morrigan, it was a son.  Also, according to lore there are supposed to be 2 Archdemons left to battle, plus and Old God, which is the child.


Morrigans child (if she had one in your run) isn't the child of the Archdemon, it has the soul of the archdemon itself. It's basically that archdemon reborn in a human (or half dwarf if your dwarven warden did the ritual) body.




My bad.  True.  Supposed to be a child with the soul of an Old God.

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I think Flemeth will have a major role to play with dragon age 3 having a big plot point on Templars and Mages at war. Villan wise I'm not sure.
And as for the God Child.that might not be workable since not everyone went down that road in origins so it would not make sense. I myself did use the God child at the end of origins.

I agree that it won't be a blight again i mean they have so much lore in the Dragon age series that i would be very easy to spin off and keep it going with something fresh.

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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

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Flemeth?

She's not an archdemon.

Posted Image

Does anyone else think she looks a little ridiculous in DA2?

I don't. And she could be the Trickster God... who knows? BioWare loves to keep us in the dark, and oddly enough, that turns me on. I don't know if that's because I'm a writer... or a minority.

Modifié par Leomerya12, 07 octobre 2012 - 09:53 .


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I have no issue with Flemeth's look in DA2. I figure she changes her appearance to suit her purpose. Need to convince a hero-to-be to take on your daughter as a traveling companion? Look like a bedraggled old lady of the woods. Need to rescue a hero-to-be and convince her/him to handle a task for you? Look like an armored warrior queen!dragon who can roast darkspawn to a crisp.

I doubt that she is an Archdemon though, because that, by its definition, would mean she is tainted. She could be an Old God - free of the taint. Or she could be of the Elven pantheon. Or an Avvar god. Or one of any myriad of powerful entities with their finger on the pulse of the universe.

I suspect that if we do see any Archdemon activity in DA3, it will be merely hints and rumors. Something to lead into the next game beyond, but not to be the focus of the third installment.

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It could be that she is depicted in a lyrium statue somewhere...

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Not sure.  I do not want to kill the story for anyone, but I think I am at liberty to say that the last blight was no coincidence. Given that fact,  the next potential blight either more/less likely than previous blights. On an unfounded gut-whim, I gander there will be no archdemon for awhile.

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whykikyouwhy wrote...

I have no issue with Flemeth's look in DA2. I figure she changes her appearance to suit her purpose. Need to convince a hero-to-be to take on your daughter as a traveling companion? Look like a bedraggled old lady of the woods. Need to rescue a hero-to-be and convince her/him to handle a task for you? Look like an armored warrior queen!dragon who can roast darkspawn to a crisp.

I doubt that she is an Archdemon though, because that, by its definition, would mean she is tainted. She could be an Old God - free of the taint. Or she could be of the Elven pantheon. Or an Avvar god. Or one of any myriad of powerful entities with their finger on the pulse of the universe.

I suspect that if we do see any Archdemon activity in DA3, it will be merely hints and rumors. Something to lead into the next game beyond, but not to be the focus of the third installment.


Flemeth, I believe, is an abomination; not the demented , mutated, poop-zombie abomination, but a possesed mage nonetheless. (Isn't there a codex somewhere that states she was a barbarian hottie-princess that talked to the wrong spirit)?

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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Bfler wrote...

Flemeth?

She's not an archdemon.

Posted Image

Does anyone else think she looks a little ridiculous in DA2?


Not so much a step in the right direction so much as a longjump. Yeah, I think it is an improvement, but I also think they went overboard. The hair, especially. WHERE DOES SHE GET THE MOUSSE

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Karsciyin wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Bfler wrote...

Flemeth?

She's not an archdemon.

Posted Image

Does anyone else think she looks a little ridiculous in DA2?


Not so much a step in the right direction so much as a longjump. Yeah, I think it is an improvement, but I also think they went overboard. The hair, especially. WHERE DOES SHE GET THE MOUSSE


Flemeth might never wash her hair Posted Image

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ledod wrote...

Not sure.  I do not want to kill the story for anyone, but I think I am at liberty to say that the last blight was no coincidence. Given that fact,  the next potential blight either more/less likely than previous blights. On an unfounded gut-whim, I gander there will be no archdemon for awhile.


No it wasn't a coincidence, it was a mistake. We find out in DAA, from The Mother, that The Architect was the one to taint the Old God. He(?) said it happened accidently when he was trying to perform his darkspawn Joining/Awakening ritual.

The experiments he performed on the Old God, leading up to the his botched ritual, might have weakened it though. In the Darkspawn Chronicles, the Archdemon itself said as much, though that can't be taken as fact since that DLC isn't canon. In Legacy though, there were Grey Wardens saying that the Ferelden Blight was alot weaken that the average Blight.

Flemeth, I believe, is an abomination; not the demented , mutated, poop-zombie abomination, but a possesed mage nonetheless. (Isn't there a codex somewhere that states she was a barbarian hottie-princess that talked to the wrong spirit)?


That's what Leliana's stories on the Flemeth legend said, but that was disproven when Morrigan herself said she wasn't an abomination in Witch Hunt. Morrigan said she was something else, which was backed up by Fenris in DA2 i think. I'm alittle foggy on that one.

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Urthemiel - Dragon of Beauty?

That means my child with morrigan is going to be a baby girl and she is going to be beautiful

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Chaoswind wrote...

Urthemiel - Dragon of Beauty?

That means my child with morrigan is going to be a baby girl and she is going to be beautiful



I think Urthemiel was male. However, I am not sure if the old gods' souls have a gender.

edit: Although, are not all high dragons female Posted Image?

Modifié par ledod, 07 octobre 2012 - 02:10 .


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All the Old Gods were male. All the archdemons are male.

All the high dragons are female.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

All the Old Gods were male. All the archdemons are male.

All the high dragons are female.



I thought any dragon with wings was a female Posted Image

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ledod wrote...


I thought any dragon with wings was a female Posted Image


I think this is an unreliable narrator situation. Old God Dragons could simply be male high dragons, which are extraordinarily rare/powerful/whatever.

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i actually think Flemeth is an old god, and i think she will be the main villain at some point

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corkey sweet wrote...

i actually think Flemeth is an old god, and i think she will be the main villain at some point


Flemeth is the Stone.

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corkey sweet wrote...

i actually think Flemeth is an old god, and i think she will be the main villain at some point


That would be something.  But I think she is more on doing right than wrong.  Morrigan on the other hand seams to crave power beyond what is considered normal.  I believe she has her own agenda,  and will be more of the "wicked withch" than Flemeth.  Could be wrong.

Modifié par Kestral, 08 octobre 2012 - 02:45 .


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Kestral wrote...

corkey sweet wrote...

i actually think Flemeth is an old god, and i think she will be the main villain at some point


That would be something.  But I think she is more on doing right than wrong.  Morrigan on the other hand seams to crave power beyond what is considered normal.  I believe she has her own agenda,  and will be more of the "wicked withch" than Flemeth.  Could be wrong.

Well it's clear she tricked the Warden into "killing" Flemeth for her own reasons and not for protection, see Dragon age comic for more details.

Modifié par Mr.House, 08 octobre 2012 - 02:56 .


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If the past old gods come back, they will be OGBs (like Flemeth or jr). If one of the other two it would either be as an archdemon or you find one of there underground cages. Which I would love to see.

Modifié par Todd23, 08 octobre 2012 - 03:05 .