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[Kirrahe Airlines CEO]

Lord_Dweedle wrote...

and Kroguards kill steal in geth games, dont deny it, its true.  No one ever gets a chance to kill anything or get points because Kroguards decimate geth matches, the only time they are on equal fitting with everyone else is a reaper game and its ONLY because of Banshees.

Then explain to me how the hell else a Kroguard is supposed to restore the barriers when he's in trouble. Usually whenever I charge something, someone else already got the killshot in and I just charge a corpse. I was in a game with a SI, GI, and a Fury. SI still can dominate a Kroguard in a geth game. I play a kroguard as a decoy type playstyle while everyone else picks them off. And if there's any adepts on my team, I lend a hand with detonating BEs.

[YouAreHorse]

Prime Combat Drone. Fixed.


No kroguard nerf needed.

Carnage buff would be nice though.

[Lord_Dweedle]

The Krauser wrote...

Lord_Dweedle wrote...

and Kroguards kill steal in geth games, dont deny it, its true.  No one ever gets a chance to kill anything or get points because Kroguards decimate geth matches, the only time they are on equal fitting with everyone else is a reaper game and its ONLY because of Banshees.

Then explain to me how the hell else a Kroguard is supposed to restore the barriers when he's in trouble. Usually whenever I charge something, someone else already got the killshot in and I just charge a corpse. I was in a game with a SI, GI, and a Fury. SI still can dominate a Kroguard in a geth game. I play a kroguard as a decoy type playstyle while everyone else picks them off. And if there's any adepts on my team, I lend a hand with detonating BEs.

Kroguard can restore his barriers like everyone else, by waiting in cover.

[Kazztore]

This is stupid. It's a Krogan Battlemaster. He is suppose to be tough, he's elite. This is as dumb as people complaining about the elite N7 characters being too strong. Just play the game or don't. Stop crying for nerfs you pansies, it's a cooperative game. You have the same advantages as everyone else once you unlock the weapons/characters.

[Lord_Dweedle]

Kazztore wrote...

This is stupid. It's a Krogan Battlemaster. He is suppose to be tough, he's elite. This is as dumb as people complaining about the elite N7 characters being too strong. Just play the game or don't. Stop crying for nerfs you pansies, it's a cooperative game. You have the same advantages as everyone else once you unlock the weapons/characters.

incorrect

[Kalas Magnus]

targaryen8 wrote...

[ill_eyggro]

I don't think "no" it's the right answer... SHUT UP!

[FredTheAlmighty]

http://imgur.com/b1C3O

Modifié par FredTheAlmighty, 07 octobre 2012 - 12:50 .

[InvincibleHero]

I have to disagree. There are many ways to spec kroguard and I go without barrier. I prefer to up shields and hitpoints and charge as much and as soon as possible. If you reduce those then it forces everyone to take the DR from barrier and makes it generic just so you can get more kills on bronze or silver.

[Zaixx]

12 pages of "no" .... think he gets it lol

[Xaijin]

No.

[Kalas Magnus]

FredTheAlmighty wrote...

I agree.

[Kazztore]

Well why don't we just get rid of energy drain while we're at it? Salarians and Paladins can just recover their shields like everyone else, by waiting in cover. They dominate geth games, what with their constantly draining energy to refill their shields! It's like they were intentially designed to be useful against certain enemies and less useful against others! That's just absurd, every character should be equal to every other character because **** diversity and different playstiles!

I'm tired of these Krogan battlemasters being juggernauts! There is absolutely no prescedence for Krogan Battlemasters to be juggernauts! Why don't you just give the Asari a unique and powerful biotic ability bioware? There's no prescedence for them to be skilled and powerful biotic users, but if we're making krogan battlemasters juggernauts in combat you might as well make an asari character with a powerful biotic ability? There's the justicar, they're not suppose to be strong biotics or even decent warriors, but what the hell, go crazy with it!

[joker_jack]

Lord_Dweedle wrote...

The Krauser wrote...

Lord_Dweedle wrote...

and Kroguards kill steal in geth games, dont deny it, its true.  No one ever gets a chance to kill anything or get points because Kroguards decimate geth matches, the only time they are on equal fitting with everyone else is a reaper game and its ONLY because of Banshees.

Then explain to me how the hell else a Kroguard is supposed to restore the barriers when he's in trouble. Usually whenever I charge something, someone else already got the killshot in and I just charge a corpse. I was in a game with a SI, GI, and a Fury. SI still can dominate a Kroguard in a geth game. I play a kroguard as a decoy type playstyle while everyone else picks them off. And if there's any adepts on my team, I lend a hand with detonating BEs.

Kroguard can restore his barriers like everyone else, by waiting in cover.

Your paper thin argument is already shreaded 1000 times overs. This is a coop game. We all get the same xp. and cash provided you can make exstration, which has nothing to do with kill stealing or anything else you've tried to agure here. If you're so worried about this, Find another game since you can't seem to play this one and the rest of these players alone troll.

*also report op for spam.

Modifié par joker_jack, 07 octobre 2012 - 12:57 .

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

Lord_Dweedle wrote...

 Their biotic charge should only restore 50% or 75% of their barrier, not the whole thing, it is utterly insane the amount of punishment they can take.

Secondly, make it so the Geth have some insta-kill moves, a Kroguard in a Geth game is a giant show off who goes around kill stealing and generally making the game unenjoyable for everyone else.  Kill moves on Geth Primes is possibly all that is needed, or give some Geth units the ability to drain shields and barriers for themselves.

Thirdly, make it so their melee is stronger against HP and Shields but decrease its effectiveness against Armor and Barriers, this will balance out their melee capabilities.

Fourthly, Get rid of Carnage and give them Warp, Shockwave or another useful biotic power, to make them have some ranged effectiveness.

The class is overpowered, anyone who thinks otherwise either exclusivly plays as Kroguards or leeches off Kroguards.

Its getting rediculous how this has not been addressed.

First point : No

Second : Geth with instakills? Can't tell if trolling or..

3rd : No.

4th : No.


Overall : NO

[Walhorin]

Lord_Dweedle wrote...

The Krauser wrote...

Lord_Dweedle wrote...

and Kroguards kill steal in geth games, dont deny it, its true.  No one ever gets a chance to kill anything or get points because Kroguards decimate geth matches, the only time they are on equal fitting with everyone else is a reaper game and its ONLY because of Banshees.

Then explain to me how the hell else a Kroguard is supposed to restore the barriers when he's in trouble. Usually whenever I charge something, someone else already got the killshot in and I just charge a corpse. I was in a game with a SI, GI, and a Fury. SI still can dominate a Kroguard in a geth game. I play a kroguard as a decoy type playstyle while everyone else picks them off. And if there's any adepts on my team, I lend a hand with detonating BEs.

Kroguard can restore his barriers like everyone else, by waiting in cover.

What is the use of a tankcharacter who can't tank. That is like turning a weaponsplatform in a peeshooter. Not to mention that noone would be playing a vanguard ever at all... which ain't good for the case of diversity.

Heck I would even prefer bioware to take away the one hit kill buttons that the reapers and cerberus have to make melee and close quarter characters not so obsolete on higher then gold difficulty.

Modifié par Walhorin, 07 octobre 2012 - 01:01 .

[Kazztore]

Lord_Dweedle wrote...

Kazztore wrote...

This is stupid. It's a Krogan Battlemaster. He is suppose to be tough, he's elite. This is as dumb as people complaining about the elite N7 characters being too strong. Just play the game or don't. Stop crying for nerfs you pansies, it's a cooperative game. You have the same advantages as everyone else once you unlock the weapons/characters.

incorrect

maybe, but I'm convinced you just suck and want everything nerfed down to your level. It's just an assumption, but I'll risk it. 

Check my manifest too, I don't have krogaurds unlocked and if I leeched off kroguards I think I'd have them unlocked by now. 

[RequiemPrime]

LOL.  The OP is really smoking the good stuff.

When you sober up OP....you are going to read this and laugh.

[Valmar]

Im sure it's been said already. But regardless...

No. No. No not at all. Are you high? No. Just no. This coming from a guy who doesn't even play with krogan characters all that often. They're fine as-is. They're bloody krogan. If anything they need to be buffed so they cannot be instant killed (or able to be revived after a instant-kill) simply due to the lore of them being these insanely powerful tanks of flesh.

[ASmoothCriminalx]

Lord_Dweedle wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Geth can stagger Kroguard now, so NO

stagger is nothing, a Kroguard can just biotic charge their barrier back and go on meleeing, stagger provides absolutely no nerf at all unless it can be followed up with a kill move.


and Kroguards kill steal in geth games, dont deny it, its true.  No one ever gets a chance to kill anything or get points because Kroguards decimate geth matches, the only time they are on equal fitting with everyone else is a reaper game and its ONLY because of Banshees.

Maybe those kroguards are just better players than you. You observe it as being the class when it could just be their personal awareness and abilities.

The average player doesn't just equip Kroguard and win Geth gold automatically, it does take know-how. E.g. turning enemies around, facing the attacks that can stagger, timing and choosing your charge correctly.

I can watch Xcal play a kroguard and decimate.. well anything, but that doesn't mean I, or the average player, can replicate that carnage. 

[Sandman667]

VerySeed wrote...

Big Ben6898 wrote...

theillusiveman11 wrote...

No

[Fleetwing1627]

Hey OP, I have something meaningful to contribute.

It's RIDICULOUS, not rediculous. Now you know.

[Grausherra]

[Kazztore]

N7-Commander wrote...

Im sure it's been said already. But regardless...

No. No. No not at all. Are you high? No. Just no. This coming from a guy who doesn't even play with krogan characters all that often. They're fine as-is. They're bloody krogan. If anything they need to be buffed so they cannot be instant killed (or able to be revived after a instant-kill) simply due to the lore of them being these insanely powerful tanks of flesh.

It would actually make sense for them to be able to be rezzed after an insta-kill because they're suppose to have redundant systems to make up for loosing their primary parts. I also think that's why they have 4 balls. But really, the only insta-kill i can buy is the banshee as idk how her shoving her arm through a krogan would damage the multiple systems, but a phantoms sword shouldn't take out more than a couple of organs from one system, their backup system should be able to make up for it if someone slaps medigel on them. Well the banshee and those new praetorians or w/e they're called in the collectors. Looks like they stab you in both sides and bite you head off. I like this idea though, BIOWARE make krogans rezzable after insta-kills! It's lore-able!

[Kazztore]

ASmoothCriminalx wrote...

Lord_Dweedle wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

Geth can stagger Kroguard now, so NO

stagger is nothing, a Kroguard can just biotic charge their barrier back and go on meleeing, stagger provides absolutely no nerf at all unless it can be followed up with a kill move.


and Kroguards kill steal in geth games, dont deny it, its true.  No one ever gets a chance to kill anything or get points because Kroguards decimate geth matches, the only time they are on equal fitting with everyone else is a reaper game and its ONLY because of Banshees.

Maybe those kroguards are just better players than you. You observe it as being the class when it could just be their personal awareness and abilities.

The average player doesn't just equip Kroguard and win Geth gold automatically, it does take know-how. E.g. turning enemies around, facing the attacks that can stagger, timing and choosing your charge correctly.

I can watch Xcal play a kroguard and decimate.. well anything, but that doesn't mean I, or the average player, can replicate that carnage. 

haha I wonder if that's what happened, he got into a game with xcal and got stomped. 

Pro-tip, get in a game with thee3nd and you're probably going to get stomped points-wise. It's just a fact of life. 

I hate to break it to you op, some players(in your case I'm guessing a lot) are just better. They can dominate matches with almost any class, especially if they have a decent weapon. Hell any power-based classed with a talon could probably clean up if they know half of what they're doing.