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Kroguard needs nerfing. Here are some suggestions.


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#351
RoseLaddie

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Kroguard nerf? Really?

I'm afraid I'm gonna have to be resp- NO. HELL NO.

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alright, let me get this straight: You think kroguard is OP, but you want to give it warp? get out.

Modifié par iDevour, 07 octobre 2012 - 06:14 .


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Lord_Dweedle wrote...

 Their biotic charge should only restore 50% or 75% of their barrier, not the whole thing, it is utterly insane the amount of punishment they can take.

Secondly, make it so the Geth have some insta-kill moves, a Kroguard in a Geth game is a giant show off who goes around kill stealing and generally making the game unenjoyable for everyone else.  Kill moves on Geth Primes is possibly all that is needed, or give some Geth units the ability to drain shields and barriers for themselves.

Thirdly, make it so their melee is stronger against HP and Shields but decrease its effectiveness against Armor and Barriers, this will balance out their melee capabilities.

Fourthly, Get rid of Carnage and give them Warp, Shockwave or another useful biotic power, to make them have some ranged effectiveness.

The class is overpowered, anyone who thinks otherwise either exclusivly plays as Kroguards or leeches off Kroguards.

Its getting rediculous how this has not been addressed.


Kroguard is fine, its the reetard carbine that needs nerfed! Its the most stupid gun ever, and it actually rewards being playing like a moron.

Modifié par Annomander, 07 octobre 2012 - 06:29 .


#354
MrScottBear

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TC, I'm sorry, but you are wrong. The Krogaurd's entire purpose is to survive. And that's all he does. His weapon damage output is exactly the same as everyone else, he can't really create his own biotic explosions, and he's just as, if not more, susceptible to sync kills than the rest of the classes.

Having a boatload of shields means squad when a banshee is cramming her arm through one of your hearts. Sure, he shines against the Geth, but so do Lady Quarian Infiltrators, anyone with Overload, and both Salarians.

Suggesting a Buff to the Geth is a horrible idea. They already have the ability to stunlock any class, Ugrabable Pyros, and Geth Hunters are capable of firing even when floating within a singularity.

#355
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No

#356
CptSketch13

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OP needs to play some more and unlock things before he starts complaining about good players knowing how to use a class

#357
4ut0b4hn5child27

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Krovan nerf?

End of Line

#358
PaperAlien

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No.

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At first I thought the OP was just a really bad troll. But the longer this thread goes on and the more he posts, I realize he is just a major idiot with a massive, undeserved ego. His posts about soldiers needed to keep fire of of him so he can do his job just made me laugh.

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No. You're a noob OP. Your manifest is weak and that's why you get outscored on bronze. Step your game up before suggesting nerfs.

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Lord_Dweedle

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so many personal insults and attempts to make me feel bad.

no wonder hardly any new people play this game online, what a poor example of the BSN in this thread.

not sure what the age rating for ME3 is in other countrys but here its R13, so expecting.. adult quality debate and discussion may have been abit of a stretch.

Now I suggest you all agree with me, since it is the best option.  Kroguard needs nerf, it is cheap and overused, the opinions in this thread prove my point because there is so many angry people with a varren in their pants about the suggestion.

Modifié par Lord_Dweedle, 07 octobre 2012 - 06:54 .


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Waaaah they stole my kills!

If I get outscored by a Kroguard in ANY sort of game, I've done something wrong. They're just big tanks, a useful asset particularly when PUG'ing. Not OP.

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Giantdeathrobot

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Nein.

Nein!

Nein!!

Nein!!!

NEIN!!!!

#364
Jay_Hoxtatron

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Lord_Dweedle wrote...



Now I suggest you all agree with me, since it is the best option.


Dat troll. :whistle:


Lord_Dweedle wrote...
 Kroguard needs nerf, it is cheap and overused, the opinions in this thread prove my point because there is so many angry people with a varren in their pants about the suggestion.


I can best 99% of Kroguards in this game with any class/any weapon. That you have a problem finding things to kill because of a Kroguard only means that you're doing it wrong.

Modifié par Jay_Hoxtatron, 07 octobre 2012 - 06:58 .


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It really was inevitable that a thread like this would show up. Hilarious, considering the only thing that changed is that his Rage works now. He was always playable off-host, in my opinion.

The Prime's drone can stagger him now and generally he feels less resistant to stagger after the patch. His damage output is only as good as the gun he's wielding as I don't consider a pure melee spec to be all that great on gold.

The one thing he's supposed to be great at is survival. And he's great at that. People still manage to die. I played a game with a Kroguard yesterday and had to pick him up quite a bit. It was against Geth, too. No, he wasn't good with the Kroguard, I merely used this as an example that all that survivability doesn't help if you don't know what you're doing.

Stop your knee-jerk reaction to playing with a Kroguard or two who outscored you.

As an aside, it ticks me off how many on this forum don't know how to spell 'ridiculous'.

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Bhatair wrote...

Their charge already has an inherently longer cooldown than any other vanguard, coupled with the fact that to take full advantage of their damage reduction they have to have barrier active which adds to the cooldown time.

They also have decreased mobility, unless you're running with an adrenaline module then charge is really the only way you can move around with any urgency.

He's a big, lumbering target and his skills support that role.


Agreed, he's a tanking melee class with powers to allow him to perform this. He's supposed to be good at punching people in the  faces. Not much else he can do. not exactly going to take down a banshee on his own, and a phantom could get lucky and get a stab in. They need to go into ranges where others cannot go. The payoff has to be higher, since unlike a GI, who sits back next to a teammate who will revive him within the first two seconds, the Krogan is sat inbetween an entire assault force. He's gonna have to get himself up. Risk must give reward, else there's no point risking it.

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Nelzeben wrote...

It really was inevitable that a thread like this would show up. Hilarious, considering the only thing that changed is that his Rage works now. He was always playable off-host, in my opinion.

The Prime's drone can stagger him now and generally he feels less resistant to stagger after the patch. His damage output is only as good as the gun he's wielding as I don't consider a pure melee spec to be all that great on gold.

The one thing he's supposed to be great at is survival. And he's great at that. People still manage to die. I played a game with a Kroguard yesterday and had to pick him up quite a bit. It was against Geth, too. No, he wasn't good with the Kroguard, I merely used this as an example that all that survivability doesn't help if you don't know what you're doing.

Stop your knee-jerk reaction to playing with a Kroguard or two who outscored you.

As an aside, it ticks me off how many on this forum don't know how to spell 'ridiculous'.

 

Don't be absurd, of course we know how to spell REDICULOUS. :o

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Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Lord_Dweedle wrote...



Now I suggest you all agree with me, since it is the best option.


Dat troll. :whistle:


Lord_Dweedle wrote...
 Kroguard needs nerf, it is cheap and overused, the opinions in this thread prove my point because there is so many angry people with a varren in their pants about the suggestion.


I can best 99.999999% of Kroguards people in this game with any class/any weapon. That you have a problem finding things to kill because of a Kroguard only means that you're doing it wrong.

 

I fixed it for you. :D

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Nelzeben

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

Nelzeben wrote...

It really was inevitable that a thread like this would show up. Hilarious, considering the only thing that changed is that his Rage works now. He was always playable off-host, in my opinion.

The Prime's drone can stagger him now and generally he feels less resistant to stagger after the patch. His damage output is only as good as the gun he's wielding as I don't consider a pure melee spec to be all that great on gold.

The one thing he's supposed to be great at is survival. And he's great at that. People still manage to die. I played a game with a Kroguard yesterday and had to pick him up quite a bit. It was against Geth, too. No, he wasn't good with the Kroguard, I merely used this as an example that all that survivability doesn't help if you don't know what you're doing.

Stop your knee-jerk reaction to playing with a Kroguard or two who outscored you.

As an aside, it ticks me off how many on this forum don't know how to spell 'ridiculous'.

 

Don't be absurd, of course we know how to spell REDICULOUS. :o



Obviously :P I know no-one likes it when others point out their spelling errors (not sure why, I'd be grateful), but since this is a somewhat trollish thread anyway, I felt it was safe to mention here.

#371
Trogdorx

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I'd agree with you, but then my brain would liquify and run out my orifices. In short, worst idea ever. Now can we all kindly let this thread die before Bioware gets any ideas?

Oh, and the Reegar kinda sucks. People say it's just lag, but since ~2 hotfixes ago, the Reegar has had a strange bug where the middle 1/3 of the clip just doesn't do anything at all. Even when it's behaving and not doing that, its damage vs armor is basically nothing. It's good for taking out mooks and phantoms, and that's about it.

#372
Lord_Dweedle

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its not trollish, it was an idea, one that, apparanty, has enraged the masses.

people really need to stop getting psychotic over suggestions.

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An expected outcome. But I never say he's overpowered. He's meant to be like that. Rather than nerf kroguard we need buffs to other vanguards to balance things out.

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GOD said...

NO



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Lord_Dweedle wrote...

so many personal insults and attempts to make me feel bad.

no wonder hardly any new people play this game online, what a poor example of the BSN in this thread.

not sure what the age rating for ME3 is in other countrys but here its R13, so expecting.. adult quality debate and discussion may have been abit of a stretch.

Now I suggest you all agree with me, since it is the best option.  Kroguard needs nerf, it is cheap and overused, the opinions in this thread prove my point because there is so many angry people with a varren in their pants about the suggestion.


Hold on. I'll get you a crying towel.