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[PendantTurnips]

Lord_Dweedle wrote...

ItZ LupOz wrote...

uhhh, no

kroguard only leads lobbies where other teammates suck, and if the kroguard is a good player. i can put on any class and easily outscore him. plus its a coop game, get that through your stupid head because people like you are the ones who slowly kill the game. so please get off the forums before you ruin another class k?

Well, at least now I know the stereotype of the lazy gamer is true if you enjoy letting someone else play your game for you.

Kroguards need to be BALANCED so it BECOMES a cooperative game.

i never leach of others, in fact im the one usually leading lobbies and kicking those who leach off me, if you have any skill, you can easily rape him score wise.

[Lord_Dweedle]

DamiosD wrote...

I agree with the rest... NO and there is no such thing as kill stealing, I don't know why people whine about this. The main target of the massacre is to kill as many as possible to increase the exp, other then that it has no affect, not to the leaderboards, not to your wallet. Don't get me wrong i can understand if your busy trying to kill an enemy for some time and someone takes the kill, that it can work frustrating, but hey you know the solution..kill faster.

its not that, its the fact that kroguards dont give anyone a chance to kill anything, especially in the first 5 waves when there is no insta-kills that are threatening.

[Big Jack Shepard]

VerySeed wrote...

Big Ben6898 wrote...

theillusiveman11 wrote...

No

[Guywhoiam]

Lord_Dweedle wrote...

N1GHTHeR0 wrote...

Not much else they can do unless Carnage was actually useful. I wouldn't be surprised if it received a health/shield nerf though.

that is what my main point is, a health/barrier nerf

What is scary is the amount of people on here who think it is OK to have an overpowered charactor, be it on your own heads people... when Diablo 2 refused to nerf the hammerdin it killed the MP community.. it will happen here too.

But the Kroguard has been out since, what, April? And the MP community hasn't died because of it.

Modifié par weirdopo, 06 octobre 2012 - 08:39 .

[TheExile1]

People like you are the people who ruin MP. Just get out.

Modifié par TheExile1, 06 octobre 2012 - 08:38 .

[Psycho Pisces]

Grow a quad and play the game, Pyjak's like you should put away the mouse an keyboard an cower before the glory which is a Kroguard.

When something gets in your way, You headbutt it. When something shoots at you, you headbutt it. When somebody whispers behind your back, you make sure "They're all dead"... An if it isn't worth your time, you eat it.

Play the game foooooooooooor Tuuuuuuuuchankaaaaaa! Mraahahaha!

[Cpl_Facehugger]

Lord_Dweedle wrote...

N1GHTHeR0 wrote...

Lol..."kill-stealing". This thread is invalid as it is a co-op game.

it is still valid, because if one person is overpowered doing all the killing then it makes the others feel like leechers when they are simpy not given an opportunity to help.

Which usually becomes 10+ minutes of WATCHING SOMEONE ELSE play the game, which is NOT fun at all.

The only way Kroguard is getting the majority of the kills is if you let him. See, Kroguard's ability to strike multiple targets is pretty bad. He's got charge and that's about it unless he pops his barrier, and I've never seen one do that.

He can wade into the middle of a group of enemies, but it takes him several melees to get them all assuming all the melees hit, during which time you should be focusing on another group of enemies to obliterate. Unless you're playing on bronze (and even then) you should have plenty of targets to choose from.

[Star fury]

If only Bioware nerf Geth, if not, no.

[kil_edward93]

Nobody touches my Kroguard, nobody.

[Lord_Dweedle]

ItZ LupOz wrote...

Lord_Dweedle wrote...

ItZ LupOz wrote...

uhhh, no

kroguard only leads lobbies where other teammates suck, and if the kroguard is a good player. i can put on any class and easily outscore him. plus its a coop game, get that through your stupid head because people like you are the ones who slowly kill the game. so please get off the forums before you ruin another class k?

Well, at least now I know the stereotype of the lazy gamer is true if you enjoy letting someone else play your game for you.

Kroguards need to be BALANCED so it BECOMES a cooperative game.

i never leach of others, in fact im the one usually leading lobbies and kicking those who leach off me, if you have any skill, you can easily rape him score wise.

Oh with my engineer I usually do outscore the kroguards, its not about scores though, its about the Kroguards unneccessary amount of hp/barriers and their ability to dominate geth games.

But ive had enough of arguing the point, many multiplayer communitys have been killed by overpowered classes, unless bioware does something in the next DLC that addresses the issue then here will always be the problem of Kroguards.

[parico]

Lord_Dweedle wrote...

N1GHTHeR0 wrote...

Lol..."kill-stealing". This thread is invalid as it is a co-op game.

it is still valid, because if one person is overpowered doing all the killing then it makes the others feel like leechers when they are simpy not given an opportunity to help.

Which usually becomes 10+ minutes of WATCHING SOMEONE ELSE play the game, which is NOT fun at all.

No Kroguard is fine.  Why complain credits are credits.  Your arguement is flawed.

[Nitrocuban]

Leave Kroguard alone.

[FasterThanFTL]

Lord_Dweedle wrote...

N1GHTHeR0 wrote...

Not much else they can do unless Carnage was actually useful. I wouldn't be surprised if it received a health/shield nerf though.

that is what my main point is, a health/barrier nerf

What is scary is the amount of people on here who think it is OK to have an overpowered charactor, be it on your own heads people... when Diablo 2 refused to nerf the hammerdin it killed the MP community.. it will happen here too.

Yes because everyone uses Kroguard all the time on all difficulties including Platinum and Banshees and Phantoms dont sync -kill kroguards because they are big and scary and they jump off the map if someone is using a Kroguard.

[a ViciousFerret]

OP needs to stop playing Bronze/Silver.

[DeathIsHere]

Lord_Dweedle wrote...

The class is overpowered, anyone who thinks otherwise either exclusivly plays as Kroguards or leeches off Kroguards.

Making assumptions because people disagree with you. Yeah, not taking your opinion seriously. Go troll somewhere else.

[Apl_Juice]

Kroguard has very little offensive capabilities. No, weapons don't count since that applies to everyone. He's fine. Really, I'd rather have all those geth firing on the charging turtle man than staggering me to death.

[Lord Rosario]

If your complain is that they steal your kills, then no, that is not a valid reason or else all biotics should say that all tech using characters can go burn under the nerf hammer too.

I repeat, they steal kills is NOT a good argument.. They may be able to take a lot of punishment, but they don't have very damaging powers and don't get boosts to weapons either. If a tank is stealing your kills against Geth, you are doing it wrong...

[Beeno4Life]

Nooooooooooooooo!

[Maker MEDA]

Kill steal only matters to novice players who are new to the game, after another 4-5 hours or so you'll forget about it. There are support classes that kill less then others, as you play more you'll become aware it's more about team composition then individual capabilities. And it really comes down to just finishing a match and earning credits, and buying new stuff with it.

It's not COD MW3. And a Kroguard has its place in a team based game to take damage for weaker maybe caster classes. Kroguard does take people aback, it's a DLC class and meant to be alittle uber. With Vanguard charge even more so, but taken into context it has its uses.

Even Diablo 2 has its Barbarian.  Whirlwind with life steal items, same thing.

Modifié par Maker MEDA, 06 octobre 2012 - 08:47 .

[Lord_Dweedle]

Lord Rosario wrote...

If your complain is that they steal your kills, then no, that is not a valid reason or else all biotics should say that all tech using characters can go burn under the nerf hammer too.

I repeat, they steal kills is NOT a good argument.. They may be able to take a lot of punishment, but they don't have very damaging powers and don't get boosts to weapons either. If a tank is stealing your kills against Geth, you are doing it wrong...

well im sick of getting 1000s of points in assists... its a pet peeve.

[Zaidra]

I don't even play kroguard, and I still say no.

[Silentbob711]

How bout you just get better? Then this won't be an issue. If I can out score a kroguard on gold with my drell-fu I really don't think there's an issue.
Oh and no. 

Modifié par Silentbob711, 06 octobre 2012 - 08:47 .

[MacGarrus]

OP, what the hell you on? A Kroguard is no more overpowered than any other Vanguard. That means he's not overpowered, he's one of the few really well made characters. He has little in the way of extreme offense outside of weapons, his niche is being undroppable to everything except sync kills to which he is extremely suceptable to due to his focus on close quarters combat and his extremely low mobility. The Kroguard doesn't have the same long range death dealing that the Sentinel and Soldier both have in their grenades. What it has instead is complete close quarters domination. Take away his durability and ability to stay in the fight and you completely destroy the character.

[kaileena_sands]

Ok, this is just too fun, so I am getting to follow the logic. OP says:


1. He plays Gold.

2. He plays with not so good weapons, since he hasn't unlocked the better ones as seen in his manifest.

3. He plays with engineers (human vanilla one?).

4. He often outscores the Kroguards using this setup.

But then Kroguards should not be nerfed! They should be buffed! If engineers with modest weapons regularly outscore them then something should be done!

Modifié par kaileena_sands, 06 octobre 2012 - 08:48 .