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FEMALE DWARVES AS NOT ONLY EXISTANT, BUT PLAYABLE


Baldurs Gate, known as the first and second best RPG of its kind. 
Baldurs Gate 2, known as the best RPG in history 
Neverwinter Nights, a game met with massive critical acclaim and fan love. 
Dragon Age Origins, The best modern RPG 

All of these have playable femdwarves. 


Poor BioWare Fantasy Games:

Dragon Age 2, enjoyed only by payed IGN writers and Chris Hoban

Does not have female Dwarves




Let us now assume the following formula

Bioware game+Female Dwarves=Sucess 
Bioware games-Female Dwarves=Failure 


Enlightening, isn't it?

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I would not place Baldur's Gate 1 anywhere among their best games.

Edit: Likewise with Neverwinter Nights, but there I admit to having not played the multiplayer, which was a huge component by all accounts.

Double edit: And I'm hoping that this thread topic is a joke.

Modifié par Il Divo, 06 octobre 2012 - 08:19 .


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Neverwinter whats?

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Il Divo wrote...

I would not place Baldur's Gate 1 anywhere among their best games.

Edit: Likewise with Neverwinter Nights, but there I admit to having not played the multiplayer, which was a huge component by all accounts.

Double edit: And I'm hoping that this thread topic is a joke.


I think the fact that you believe Baldurs Gate 1 and NWN are bad games shows that you are infact the one that is joking. 

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You forgot Jade Empire. It is a fun game but it doesn't have dwarves.

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caradoc2000 wrote...

You forgot Jade Empire. It is a fun game but it doesn't have dwarves.


Its also not in the fantasy genre, but thanks for playing

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FaWa wrote...

caradoc2000 wrote...

You forgot Jade Empire. It is a fun game but it doesn't have dwarves.


Its also not in the fantasy genre, but thanks for playing


It is about as fantasy as Planescape.

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FaWa wrote...

caradoc2000 wrote...

You forgot Jade Empire. It is a fun game but it doesn't have dwarves.


Its also not in the fantasy genre, but thanks for playing

It is most definately in the fantasy genre.

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After reading this thread, I have decided to sue IGN for back pay, as they have yet to reimburse me for liking DA2.

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FaWa wrote...

FEMALE DWARVES AS NOT ONLY EXISTANT, BUT PLAYABLE


Baldurs Gate, known as the first and second best RPG of its kind. 
Baldurs Gate 2, known as the best RPG in history 
Neverwinter Nights, a game met with massive critical acclaim and fan love. 
Dragon Age Origins, The best modern RPG 

All of these have playable femdwarves. 


Poor BioWare Fantasy Games:

Dragon Age 2, enjoyed only by payed IGN writers and Chris Hoban

Does not have female Dwarves




Let us now assume the following formula

Bioware game+Female Dwarves=Sucess 
Bioware games-Female Dwarves=Failure 


Enlightening, isn't it?


Female dwarfs are also playable in World of Warcraft. 

Baldur's Gate is definitely not the best RPG in history. It was good for its time, revolutionary even perhaps, but its definitely not the best in history.

NWN got critical aclaim equal to that of Dragon Age 2 - the game was full of bioware 'clicheeeeeeeeeeeees' - just look up the table for it on interent. It was practically what Bethesda is getting scorn for - that they just made a sandbox game with editor - and rest do it your self. Although i agree it was a big step forward with Aurora Engine and its possibilities for RPG modding - best mod i ever played(A Dance With Rogues) was on NWN 1 and that was better then many of the complete RPGs.

I don't know what makes Dragon Age: Origins a modern RPG. The reason why it was so popular in the first place, was because it was more of a retro game, then a modern RPG. Modern RPG is synonimous to streamlining and accessability to wider audiance (Mass Effect or Elder Scroll 5:Skyrim seems more like a modern RPGs then DA:O)

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FaWa wrote...

I think the fact that you believe Baldurs Gate 1 and NWN are bad games shows that you are infact the one that is joking. 


Nope, dead serious. I think they're terrible.

Modifié par Il Divo, 06 octobre 2012 - 08:27 .


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Its true that Dwarfs make any better.
Of cause they can only too so much.
A game is only great if people remember it.

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 If ign pays people to like DA2 I need ALOT of money. The game had its share of problems but it was good but not as good as DAO. DA2 only was the way it was because their time limit was beyond small

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FaWa wrote...

Let us now assume the following formula

Bioware game+Female Dwarves=Sucess 
Bioware games-Female Dwarves=Failure 


Enlightening, isn't it?

Considering that "success" and "failure" mean different things to different people, and can therefore be measured in a variety of ways, it's an interesting opinion, but I don't know that I would call it enlightening. 

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If you're talking about enjoyment, I enjoyed playing DA2, overall. If you're talking about great games, I don't think that DA2 is a great game, but I don't think NWN was great either.
Anyway, I support having female dwarves back in DA3 (though I don't think that someone would disagree with this). About playable fem-dwarves, I doubt it'll happen.

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another thread about dwarves this is getting ridiculous.

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FaWa wrote...

FEMALE DWARVES AS NOT ONLY EXISTANT, BUT PLAYABLE


Baldurs Gate, known as the first and second best RPG of its kind. 
Baldurs Gate 2, known as the best RPG in history 
Neverwinter Nights, a game met with massive critical acclaim and fan love. 
Dragon Age Origins, The best modern RPG 

All of these have playable femdwarves. 


Poor BioWare Fantasy Games:

Dragon Age 2, enjoyed only by payed IGN writers and Chris Hoban

Does not have female Dwarves




Let us now assume the following formula

Bioware game+Female Dwarves=Sucess 
Bioware games-Female Dwarves=Failure 


Enlightening, isn't it?


Dragon Age 2 is superior to DAO. Your argument is invalid.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

FaWa wrote...

caradoc2000 wrote...

You forgot Jade Empire. It is a fun game but it doesn't have dwarves.


Its also not in the fantasy genre, but thanks for playing


It is about as fantasy as Planescape.

PS:T is based of D&D...

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FaWa wrote...

caradoc2000 wrote...
You forgot Jade Empire. It is a fun game but it doesn't have dwarves.

Its also not in the fantasy genre, but thanks for playing

If it's not fantasy, than what the hell is it?

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LOL this thread is hilarious

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bobobo878 wrote...

FaWa wrote...

caradoc2000 wrote...
You forgot Jade Empire. It is a fun game but it doesn't have dwarves.

Its also not in the fantasy genre, but thanks for playing

If it's not fantasy, than what the hell is it?

It's sci-fi. Every character is secretly a robot.

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While I'm not going to boycott DA3 if female dwarves aren't playable, I will definitely be unhappy if female dwarves are inexplicably absent again. Especially if we're traveling around Thedas. I could at least pretend that female dwarves had the good sense to stay away from Kirkwall and the surrounding area.

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MillKill wrote...

FaWa wrote...

FEMALE DWARVES AS NOT ONLY EXISTANT, BUT PLAYABLE


Baldurs Gate, known as the first and second best RPG of its kind. 
Baldurs Gate 2, known as the best RPG in history 
Neverwinter Nights, a game met with massive critical acclaim and fan love. 
Dragon Age Origins, The best modern RPG 

All of these have playable femdwarves. 


Poor BioWare Fantasy Games:

Dragon Age 2, enjoyed only by payed IGN writers and Chris Hoban

Does not have female Dwarves




Let us now assume the following formula

Bioware game+Female Dwarves=Sucess 
Bioware games-Female Dwarves=Failure 


Enlightening, isn't it?


Dragon Age 2 is superior to DAO. Your argument is invalid.


Bahahahahahaha.  Your opinion but still.

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syllogi wrote...

While I'm not going to boycott DA3 if female dwarves aren't playable, I will definitely be unhappy if female dwarves are inexplicably absent again. Especially if we're traveling around Thedas. I could at least pretend that female dwarves had the good sense to stay away from Kirkwall and the surrounding area.

If female dwarves are gone again, that just means the game was super rushed again.

Modifié par Mr.House, 06 octobre 2012 - 09:12 .


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MillKill wrote...

FaWa wrote...

FEMALE DWARVES AS NOT ONLY EXISTANT, BUT PLAYABLE


Baldurs Gate, known as the first and second best RPG of its kind. 
Baldurs Gate 2, known as the best RPG in history 
Neverwinter Nights, a game met with massive critical acclaim and fan love. 
Dragon Age Origins, The best modern RPG 

All of these have playable femdwarves. 


Poor BioWare Fantasy Games:

Dragon Age 2, enjoyed only by payed IGN writers and Chris Hoban

Does not have female Dwarves




Let us now assume the following formula

Bioware game+Female Dwarves=Sucess 
Bioware games-Female Dwarves=Failure 


Enlightening, isn't it?


Dragon Age 2 is superior to DAO. Your argument is invalid.


This opinion is bad and you should feel bad.