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[Zjarcal]

Lolz, "happy ending".

[Fiacre]

Inprea wrote...

I would prefer a happy ending as well or to be more precise an optional happy ending. That said I believe the ending should be an accumulation of your choices. Let's go back to dragon age origins for example and ignore the dark ritual. Let's look at the circle tower. Now do you consider the mages and circle rebuilding a happy ending or genocide? If you're a mage hater obviously you prefer mass murder. Then let's look at Orzammar what do you prefer a competent tyrant that revitalizes his people or an incompetent leader that means well but is stuck in tradition?

For me it was these choices that actually set what I consider a good ending. A tyrant that improves the quality of life of the average man is a better choice to me then a well meaning incompetent who hastens a people's decline. So perhaps instead of getting a happy or sad ending it could be more about getting our ending?

This. Me answering the "Define happy" ending was more about showing that DA:O, depending on your choices, and feelings on those choices, actually had a wide variety of endings that could be interpreted in completely different ways -- I think my happy ending is just that, someone else might see it as bittersweet or bad, while Alistair being King will, at most, be bittersweet rather than happy to me. Someone could even see a US ending as a bad one instead of a bittersweet one, despite the Blight being ended. As far as endings go, DA:O was really pretty good.

[bleetman]

You know what makes tragic endings all the more tragic for me? The possibility that, had I done things differently, it could've ended differently. A forced tragedy is considerably less impactful.

[Mr.House]

MillKill wrote...

Fawx9 wrote...

MillKill wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

MillKill wrote...

Tragic endings are far more emotionally powerful and memorable. Bittersweet is the happiest I'd like.

Not when it's done poorly.

Happy endings aren't good when done poorly either.

A well-done tragic ending, such as in The Godfather or The Godfather Part II, is better than a  well-done happy ending.

Invincible, Miracle, DKR, Avengers, etc are all good endings. It doesn't need to be bittersweet or depressing to be artful or good. Limiting yourself by those restrcitions is just stupid.

I never said that good endings must be horrible. But when done well, they are not as powerful as well-done tragic or bittersweet endings.

I never saw Invincible or Miracle, but TDK was definitely not a happy ending. It was firmly in Bittersweet territory. I liked the ending to The Avengers, but TDK had an ending far more powerful and memorable.

DKR was not a bittersweet ending. It was a powerful ending that was also "happy".

You  are confusing TDK with DKR.

Modifié par Mr.House, 06 octobre 2012 - 10:13 .

[Giggles_Manically]

Screw happy endings.
I just want a GOOD ENDING.

[EpicBoot2daFace]

I want a good ending, happy or not.

[Eveangaline]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Filament wrote...

Mehehe. You said "happy ending."

Oh yeah; I want one of those in DA3 too.

Well, there's been brothels in every game so far, I doubt orlies would be lacking in them

[ediskrad327]

Fiacre wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Define "happy".

DAO/A with ritual, Warden married to Anora with no other LI, Alistair executed, everyone else alive (Ashes never found, Curse lifted, Bhelen crowned, Anvil destroyed, Redcliffe saved, Circle option for saving Connor chosen, Amaranthine saved, Vigil's Keep fully upgraded). aka my canon ending.

And I don't think a happy ending means there can't be an unhappy one. This is an RPG after all -- if crowning Harrowmont and giving him Golems is IC for your character, then imo that's a perfectly legitimate choice to make, even if it leads to an unhappy fate for Orzammar.

whoa! you can NOT find the Ashes?i thought the Plot demanded them to be found

[Eveangaline]

ediskrad327 wrote...

Fiacre wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Define "happy".

DAO/A with ritual, Warden married to Anora with no other LI, Alistair executed, everyone else alive (Ashes never found, Curse lifted, Bhelen crowned, Anvil destroyed, Redcliffe saved, Circle option for saving Connor chosen, Amaranthine saved, Vigil's Keep fully upgraded). aka my canon ending.

And I don't think a happy ending means there can't be an unhappy one. This is an RPG after all -- if crowning Harrowmont and giving him Golems is IC for your character, then imo that's a perfectly legitimate choice to make, even if it leads to an unhappy fate for Orzammar.

whoa! you can NOT find the Ashes?i thought the Plot demanded them to be found

You have to find them, but if you do certain things, they no one else after you finds them

[Fiacre]

Eveangaline wrote...

ediskrad327 wrote...

Fiacre wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Define "happy".

DAO/A with ritual, Warden married to Anora with no other LI, Alistair executed, everyone else alive (Ashes never found, Curse lifted, Bhelen crowned, Anvil destroyed, Redcliffe saved, Circle option for saving Connor chosen, Amaranthine saved, Vigil's Keep fully upgraded). aka my canon ending.

And I don't think a happy ending means there can't be an unhappy one. This is an RPG after all -- if crowning Harrowmont and giving him Golems is IC for your character, then imo that's a perfectly legitimate choice to make, even if it leads to an unhappy fate for Orzammar.

whoa! you can NOT find the Ashes?i thought the Plot demanded them to be found

You have to find them, but if you do certain things, they no one else after you finds them

Yeah, this. I'm... not actually sure if that isn'r an epilogue bug, but if you send Genetivi home before entering the Temple and then never visit him afterwards to tell him what happened, the epilogue says that the Ashes were never found by the Chantry, and you won't have to kill Genetivi or defile the Ashes to do that.

[blueumi]

I don't care if it's happy or tragic I just want it to be well written and make sense no art bull would make me happy

[Darth Death]

There has to be cake in order for a good ending.

[labargegrrrl]

what is preferred in an ending is a matter of taste.

as a consummate pessimist and misanthrope, i tend to be more into horrifying and tragic endings. or happy endings that have a lot of tragic aftertaste involved. they match my perspective of reality.

but some people are more into bunnies, rainbows and glasses being half-full. (and cake)

have both be a possibility? sure. why not?

not that saying as much is going to make a difference at this point.

[frostajulie]

bleetman wrote...

You know what makes tragic endings all the more tragic for me? The possibility that, had I done things differently, it could've ended differently. A forced tragedy is considerably less impactful.

Now that is something I hope the writers read and take seriously.

I still play DAO.  I do not always pick the US but sometimes a character takes me by surprise and that becomes her end.

I still play DA2 and I know how to play the game and not have my Bethany die, She's my 2nd favorite character.  But my last Hawke didn't even consider bringing Anders along.  I was just as devestated over the loss of Bethany this time but it fit the character.  I do however love that it was not forced on me.  I appreciate that there is a sunshine and lollipop ending. and that makes me appreciate the tragedy even more.

[Eveangaline]

labargegrrrl wrote...

what is preferred in an ending is a matter of taste.

as a consummate pessimist and misanthrope, i tend to be more into horrifying and tragic endings. or happy endings that have a lot of tragic aftertaste involved. they match my perspective of reality.

but some people are more into bunnies, rainbows and glasses being half-full. (and cake)

have both be a possibility? sure. why not?

not that saying as much is going to make a difference at this point.

Luckily OP is asking for the option to have a happy ending, not a mandatory one. With more options, everyone can be happy (or as many peple as possible)

[HiroVoid]

As long as it fits with the themes and tone of the game, I'm fine. Well.....as long as it doesn't end on a cliffhanger. I don't mind leaving mystery threads dangling, but the ending should feel like a satisfactory resolution to the self contained story in DAIII.

[Felya87]

I'd like to have the ending depending frome my choise during the game, as in DA:O.

As for "happy ending", well...I don't want flowers and sugar anywhere or pink snow...I just would like to have the chance to save most of my campanions without die.

It could already be a happy ending for me.

And of course, to have it, there should be a "price" to pay. Be it a sacrifice of a companion or of a character important for the plot, or something else.

[XCelfa]

I like how everyone's being all cute saying, "I don't want a happy ending" as if a few months ago everyone wasn't pissed off about ME3, wanting just that.

Maybe it'll have an optional sacrifice like in DAO as well as a sunshine and bunnies ending so everyone would just... chill.

[megamacka]

I seriously don't want a '' u win, everyone lives '' ending. It just feels cheap, cliche and rainbows n sunshine to me. But I want an ending that shows me and acknowledges everything that I've done. If my character dies or the LI etc. So be it, but I don't want some stupid nonsense plot and then have nothing that I've done showing at all.

  A happy ending to me can also be sad. Hapyy doesn't have to be '' yay party time, everything is better than it was when we began woohoo ! ''. It can be, we did it but we sacrificed a lot. At least have the sacrifices show in a meaningfull way and don't dismiss them.

Modifié par megamacka, 06 octobre 2012 - 11:29 .

[XCelfa]

megamacka wrote...

I seriously don't want a '' u win, everyone lives '' ending. It just feels cheap, cliche and rainbows n sunshine to me. But I want an ending that shows me and acknowledges everything that I've done. If my character dies or the LI etc. So be it, but I don't want some stupid nonsense plot and then not have anything that I've spent the game doing NOT showing.

Somehow I find this really ironic against your signature.

[megamacka]

XCelfa wrote...


Somehow I find this really ironic against your signature.

  So, because I did not like the ending of ME3. Does that mean, because shep died or something? 
I think that ME3 had a pretty happy ending, pretty much in the lines of '' happy '' that I was expecting.
Imo Rannoch and Tuchanka was the only parts of ME3 that I felt was good enough to fit into the '' last of a trilogy '' category. 




.... Am I a bad person now?  

Modifié par megamacka, 06 octobre 2012 - 11:32 .

[mousestalker]

Ria wrote...

I just want distinctively different endings. I don't care if none of the endings available is particularly cheerful but I want to feel I had an impact to the outcome. A choice is all I'm asking.

What she said. A meaningful choice is probably the best ending.

[Ridwan]

Happy endings ftw, I like to feel good after I finish a game. This fake "mature" dark ending crap is a load of bull. If I want to hear depressing stuff I'll turn on the news.

[nijnij]

It doesn't matter if it's happy or not as long as it's not gratuitous. The only thing worse than a gratuitous happy ending is a gratuitous tragic ending.