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[Yalision]

   I see the common response to the anvil encounter is Caradin good, anvil bad. On one hand this may be true, but overall I disagree.

   I used to destroy the anvil every time, but at one point I stopped and reassessed my reasoning. The Anvil of the Void, for a time, made use of volunteers only. When those volunteers ran out, they forcibly created more golems. Fine, I'll agree, that's pretty evil. This does not make the anvil itself, evil, though - just the person condemning innocents upon it.

   I'll also concede that the process of creating golems sounds pretty nightmarish, but there is the big picture at stake.

   In all of known Thedas, there are only two Dwarven thaigs left standing. With so much at stake, who are we to decide what to do with such a device? Branka may have been driven insane, but given her circumstances, who wouldn't go nuts?

   I finally came to the conclusion that the Anvil of the Void could not only help save the world against the Blight, but even a handful of new golems could bring an age of prosperity and security to the Dwarves that hasn't been felt since the advent of the Darkspawn. I could not in good conscience deny that opportunity to the Dwarves, and in this case, the Anvil of the Void became, in my opinion, a small sacrifice for the greater good of a race teetering on the edge of oblivion. Even if more Dwarves were forced onto the anvil against their will, it is the decision of their king to make, not mine. Even Commander Shepard decided to allign with Aria, queen of murderers, rapists, and thieves. At least the anvil is a sword that can change hands, an instrument to be used rather than a creature to do evil.

   Yes, we can succeed without the anvil, and the Dwarves can expand a little too, but the anvil is simply too valuable to them as a race. Though saving it comes with a heavy price, to destroy it would be heavier in my opinion.

[Blazomancer]

Taking away people's freedom is evil in my opinion; and people like Bhelen or anybody will surely force people into becoming golems. So the cycle will continue indefinitely, until another Caridin decides to seal away the anvil. I'm not a cynic, but the way dwarven politics is depicted in the game, there's no doubt in my warden's mind that when the volunteers run out, people will be shipped as slaves to the anvil. May be they'll even start importing elves from the alienages.

As long as the anvil is reserved for volunteers, all is well and good, 'a liitle evil for a greater good' and stuff like that. But at least, my warden don't want to take that risk, as during the course of the game, it becomes evident that both of the king candidates are scheming hypocrites.

So, i guess the decision will depend solely on the ideologies of the warden you are playing. Even if in real life, such a situation arises, the opinions will vary as there is no fixed right and wrong.

[lambent templar]

Regarding the bigger picture, Yes they are extremelly helpful after the blight but what then? Whats to stop the dwarves from expanding their territories with their newly acquired golem armies? They could be a larger threat than the darkspawn themselves conquering area by area and using their p.o.w's as souls for more golems.
I have saved and destroyed the anvil but tend to destroy more often than not.

[Monica21]

I don't destroy the Anvil because Branka went crazy, I destroy the Anvil because Caradin wants his creation destroyed. He knows better than anyone what harm can come from it.

lambent templar wrote...
Regarding the bigger picture, Yes they are extremelly helpful after the blight but what then? Whats to stop the dwarves from expanding their territories with their newly acquired golem armies? They could be a larger threat than the darkspawn themselves conquering area by area and using their p.o.w's as souls for more golems.
I have saved and destroyed the anvil but tend to destroy more often than not.

Eh, I don't think the dwarves would expand their territory above ground. There will still be surface dwarves, but if anything, they would use the golems reclaim the lost thaigs and just stay underground.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

It's only 100% voluntary if control rods aren't crafted.

Shayle was a volunteer, and she had a control rod.

Modifié par Shadow of Light Dragon, 07 octobre 2012 - 09:08 .

[KefkaGestahl]

The problem is leaving the anvil to somebody as morally bankrupt as Branka, at least by the point you find her. After what she did with her house, who would trust her to be in charge of the Anvil? It doesn't end well because of that, and there is no option to kill her and still keep the anvil.

You're proposing to create a weapon of mass destruction in order to maintain peace and allow prosperity, but then you give that weapon to a psychopath. It's not going to work out.