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[masster blaster]

Leviathan can take the APPEARANCE of the people Shepard has meet from his/her memories, it also creates objects that Shepard has seen to. You can confirm this because Leviathan creates Brysons lab table, where the husk head can be founded. Hence why the end looks like Bioware reused their work, because that's what the Reapers are doing.

Also we find out that if Leviathan get's into Shepard's mind Shepard starts to have a nose bleed on his/her left nose, like at the end. People may say that " Well Shepard is injured, yet you can see similarities between the two.


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Modifié par masster blaster, 07 octobre 2012 - 09:13 .

[Heimdall]

masster blaster wrote...

Leviathan can take the APPEARANCE of the people Shepard has meet from his/her memories, it also creates objects that Shepard has seen to. You can confirm this because Leviathan creates Brysons lab table, where the husk head can be founded. Hence why the end looks like Bioware reused their work, because that's what the Reapers are doing.

Also we find out that if Leviathan get's into Shepard's mind Shepard starts to have a nose bleed on his/her left nose, like at the end. People may say that " Well Shepard is injured, yet you can see similarities between the two.


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Well Shepard is injured?

Shepard is COATED in blood and burned tissue from standing too close to Harbingers weapon.  I find that difficult to point to as evidence of anything.

[liggy002]

MajorKellyRisner wrote...

I honestly believe that this won't happen ever because of two things.

1. Being as though there is no post ending and shepard is dead or else, it just won't happen.

2. It would cause more friction here for the forum and more hostilites on either side.

So, in short: Not going to happen, ever. Just like wanting more endings, not going to happen.

  I don't how you have it in your mind that releasing an alternate IT DLC would create more friction on the forums.  People would have to be beyond dumb to think that we got cheated out of an ending when they already released an official ending.  That's why they call it an ALTERNATE ENDING because it is NOT OFFICIAL.

[masster blaster]

Lord Aesir wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Leviathan can take the APPEARANCE of the people Shepard has meet from his/her memories, it also creates objects that Shepard has seen to. You can confirm this because Leviathan creates Brysons lab table, where the husk head can be founded. Hence why the end looks like Bioware reused their work, because that's what the Reapers are doing.

Also we find out that if Leviathan get's into Shepard's mind Shepard starts to have a nose bleed on his/her left nose, like at the end. People may say that " Well Shepard is injured, yet you can see similarities between the two.


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Well Shepard is injured?

Shepard is COATED in blood and burned tissue from standing too close to Harbingers weapon.  I find that difficult to point to as evidence of anything.

I know you would take the last part, and not the first part. So what do you have to say about
Leviathan can take the APPEARANCE of the people Shepard has meet from
his/her memories, it also creates objects that Shepard has seen to. You
can confirm this because Leviathan creates Brysons lab table, where the
husk head can be founded. Hence why the end looks like Bioware reused
their work, because that's what the Reapers are doing.

Also you are right SHepard is covered in blood, yet why is Shepard bleeding from the side where Anderson was shot. symbolic/symbollisum mate.

[liggy002]

ghost9191 wrote...

well they can charge for it, will still buy. or idk that would then make the other 3 choices wrong, and whoever picked them wrong. think it would be better to just do maybe a alt ending or just do a better job with destroy, a little more closure and such, that way the ppl that picked control or synthesis won't feel that they lost

then again if it is completely optional , then who cares, IT believers will have their ending they wanted and if someone doesn't want it , then don't download it.

but also might make the majority happy if they do a little better job with destroy, fill in the holes , at least for me

  This is what I dont' f****** understand.  Releasing an alternate IT DLC will not hurt anyone.  Why is Bioware so dead set against it?

[masster blaster]

Hackett, and his speeches are just amazing. Let me explain.
www.youtube.com/watch

" The Reapers will show us no mercy. We must give them no quarter. They will terrorize our populations. we must stand fast in the face of that terror. They will advance until our last city falls, but we will fail. We will prevail. Each of us will be defined by our actions in the coming battle. Stand fast. Stand strong. Stand together. Hackett out."

One Hackett tells everyone, including Shepard/us that we can show them no mercy, and kill them all.

Two Hackett is remind Shepard, and the player, that the Reapers will harvest/kill every advanced race, and will not stop until the last city fails.

Three foreshadowing at the end, when Hackett says " Each of us will be defined by our actions in the coming battle.' The end is our actions/ Shepard's, and the endings we pick is defining us, and the Reapers.

Here is the video.

[Heimdall]

masster blaster wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Leviathan can take the APPEARANCE of the people Shepard has meet from his/her memories, it also creates objects that Shepard has seen to. You can confirm this because Leviathan creates Brysons lab table, where the husk head can be founded. Hence why the end looks like Bioware reused their work, because that's what the Reapers are doing.

Also we find out that if Leviathan get's into Shepard's mind Shepard starts to have a nose bleed on his/her left nose, like at the end. People may say that " Well Shepard is injured, yet you can see similarities between the two.


Top.

Well Shepard is injured?

Shepard is COATED in blood and burned tissue from standing too close to Harbingers weapon.  I find that difficult to point to as evidence of anything.

I know you would take the last part, and not the first part. So what do you have to say about
Leviathan can take the APPEARANCE of the people Shepard has meet from
his/her memories, it also creates objects that Shepard has seen to. You
can confirm this because Leviathan creates Brysons lab table, where the
husk head can be founded. Hence why the end looks like Bioware reused
their work, because that's what the Reapers are doing.

Also you are right SHepard is covered in blood, yet why is Shepard bleeding from the side where Anderson was shot. symbolic/symbollisum mate.

I took what was relevant.  Shepard is hurt, any parallel you attempt falls flatly on that point.  Leviathan and it's abilities are irrelevent un;ess the second statement has merit.  It does not.

Everything else is pure supposition.

Shepard was bleeding from that side the entire time, not just after getting shot, its a wound, it tends to do that.

[masster blaster]

Lord Aesir wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Leviathan can take the APPEARANCE of the people Shepard has meet from his/her memories, it also creates objects that Shepard has seen to. You can confirm this because Leviathan creates Brysons lab table, where the husk head can be founded. Hence why the end looks like Bioware reused their work, because that's what the Reapers are doing.

Also we find out that if Leviathan get's into Shepard's mind Shepard starts to have a nose bleed on his/her left nose, like at the end. People may say that " Well Shepard is injured, yet you can see similarities between the two.


Top.

Well Shepard is injured?

Shepard is COATED in blood and burned tissue from standing too close to Harbingers weapon.  I find that difficult to point to as evidence of anything.

I know you would take the last part, and not the first part. So what do you have to say about
Leviathan can take the APPEARANCE of the people Shepard has meet from
his/her memories, it also creates objects that Shepard has seen to. You
can confirm this because Leviathan creates Brysons lab table, where the
husk head can be founded. Hence why the end looks like Bioware reused
their work, because that's what the Reapers are doing.

Also you are right SHepard is covered in blood, yet why is Shepard bleeding from the side where Anderson was shot. symbolic/symbollisum mate.

I took what was relevant.  Shepard is hurt, any parallel you attempt falls flatly on that point.  Leviathan and it's abilities are irrelevent un;ess the second statement has merit.  It does not.

Everything else is pure supposition.

Shepard was bleeding from that side the entire time, not just after getting shot, its a wound, it tends to do that.

So you don't believe the Reapers can TAKE on the appearnce on people Shepardh as seen, and objects that Shepard has seen too. Also remember Leviathan says the Reapers perfected this the taking on the appearance of people/ creating objects from Shepard's memorys, and lead to the perfection Indoctrination.

Also look how easy it was for Leivathan to get into Shepard's head. You mean to tell me Harbinger, or the Reapers can't do that to Shepard.

[Heimdall]

masster blaster wrote...
So you don't believe the Reapers can TAKE on the appearnce on people Shepardh as seen, and objects that Shepard has seen too. Also remember Leviathan says the Reapers perfected this the taking on the appearance of people/ creating objects from Shepard's memorys, and lead to the perfection Indoctrination.

Also look how easy it was for Leivathan to get into Shepard's head. You mean to tell me Harbinger, or the Reapers can't do that to Shepard.

Maybe, maybe not.  Leviathan could do that to Shepard just after meeting him.  Reaper indoctrination takes days and weeks to have the slightest effect and visual hallucination on the scale suggested by the IT theory are entirely unheard of.

Conclusion:  They don't have the same abilities

I mean to tell you that if Harbinger could get into Shepard's head that easily he would have done so much sooner.

[masster blaster]

Lord Aesir wrote...

masster blaster wrote...
So you don't believe the Reapers can TAKE on the appearnce on people Shepardh as seen, and objects that Shepard has seen too. Also remember Leviathan says the Reapers perfected this the taking on the appearance of people/ creating objects from Shepard's memorys, and lead to the perfection Indoctrination.

Also look how easy it was for Leivathan to get into Shepard's head. You mean to tell me Harbinger, or the Reapers can't do that to Shepard.

Maybe, maybe not.  Leviathan could do that to Shepard just after meeting him.  Reaper indoctrination takes days and weeks to have the slightest effect and visual hallucination on the scale suggested by the IT theory are entirely unheard of.

Conclusion:  They don't have the same abilities

I mean to tell you that if Harbinger could get into Shepard's head that easily he would have done so much sooner.

Hence the end game of ME3.

[byne]

Lord Aesir wrote...

masster blaster wrote...
So you don't believe the Reapers can TAKE on the appearnce on people Shepardh as seen, and objects that Shepard has seen too. Also remember Leviathan says the Reapers perfected this the taking on the appearance of people/ creating objects from Shepard's memorys, and lead to the perfection Indoctrination.

Also look how easy it was for Leivathan to get into Shepard's head. You mean to tell me Harbinger, or the Reapers can't do that to Shepard.

Maybe, maybe not.  Leviathan could do that to Shepard just after meeting him.  Reaper indoctrination takes days and weeks to have the slightest effect and visual hallucination on the scale suggested by the IT theory are entirely unheard of.

Conclusion:  They don't have the same abilities

I mean to tell you that if Harbinger could get into Shepard's head that easily he would have done so much sooner.

Leviathan only ever got into Shepard's head once Shep was in close proximity to it. The only time Harby is in close proximity to Shep is the end of ME3.

[Samtheman63]

harby tells shepard hes going to indoctrinate him
harby hits shepard with lazer
shepard wakes up to find an indoctrinated TiM telling him to pick control and the leader of the reapers telling him to pick synthesis


L
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[sammysoso]

At this point? Paid.

[spotlessvoid]

Thankfully, none of you have any impact on this decision. You can hate and pout and stomp your feet all you want. It's happening. Get over it

[Heimdall]

byne wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

masster blaster wrote...
So you don't believe the Reapers can TAKE on the appearnce on people Shepardh as seen, and objects that Shepard has seen too. Also remember Leviathan says the Reapers perfected this the taking on the appearance of people/ creating objects from Shepard's memorys, and lead to the perfection Indoctrination.

Also look how easy it was for Leivathan to get into Shepard's head. You mean to tell me Harbinger, or the Reapers can't do that to Shepard.

Maybe, maybe not.  Leviathan could do that to Shepard just after meeting him.  Reaper indoctrination takes days and weeks to have the slightest effect and visual hallucination on the scale suggested by the IT theory are entirely unheard of.

Conclusion:  They don't have the same abilities

I mean to tell you that if Harbinger could get into Shepard's head that easily he would have done so much sooner.

Leviathan only ever got into Shepard's head once Shep was in close proximity to it. The only time Harby is in close proximity to Shep is the end of ME3.

Yet still, Leviathan's abilities may be the basis for indoctrination but there are sharp differences in symptoms displayed.  Indoctrination bends and twists minds but Leviathan tends to be straight up possession.

[Heimdall]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Thankfully, none of you have any impact on this decision. You can hate and pout and stomp your feet all you want. It's happening. Get over it

It's not happening.  Get over it. 

[masster blaster]

Lord Aesir, you forget that Reapers learned to PREFECT THE LEVIATHANS ability, which is Indoctrination.

[masster blaster]

Lord Aesir wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Thankfully, none of you have any impact on this decision. You can hate and pout and stomp your feet all you want. It's happening. Get over it

It's not happening.  Get over it. 

At least I can kill the Reapers, and have the guts to kill them. You don't. You let the Reapers live because you can't kill the Geth and EDI. If Indoctrination is right, then they are not dead, and that means you helped the Reapers in Synthesis.

[spotlessvoid]

Lord Aesir wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Thankfully, none of you have any impact on this decision. You can hate and pout and stomp your feet all you want. It's happening. Get over it

It's not happening.  Get over it. 

Wish I could see your face when it does

[Heimdall]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Thankfully, none of you have any impact on this decision. You can hate and pout and stomp your feet all you want. It's happening. Get over it

It's not happening.  Get over it. 

Wish I could see your face when it does

I'll be sure to send you a card when its falsehood is confirmed

[Heimdall]

masster blaster wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Thankfully, none of you have any impact on this decision. You can hate and pout and stomp your feet all you want. It's happening. Get over it

It's not happening.  Get over it. 

At least I can kill the Reapers, and have the guts to kill them. You don't. You let the Reapers live because you can't kill the Geth and EDI. If Indoctrination is right, then they are not dead, and that means you helped the Reapers in Synthesis.

A pleasent dream for you, fine fellow

[masster blaster]

Lord Aesir wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Thankfully, none of you have any impact on this decision. You can hate and pout and stomp your feet all you want. It's happening. Get over it

It's not happening.  Get over it. 

At least I can kill the Reapers, and have the guts to kill them. You don't. You let the Reapers live because you can't kill the Geth and EDI. If Indoctrination is right, then they are not dead, and that means you helped the Reapers in Synthesis.

A pleasent dream for you, fine fellow

To you to Lord Aesir.

[byne]

Lord Aesir wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Thankfully, none of you have any impact on this decision. You can hate and pout and stomp your feet all you want. It's happening. Get over it

It's not happening.  Get over it. 

Wish I could see your face when it does

I'll be sure to send you a card when its falsehood is confirmed

To be fair, if IT is false, I doubt BioWare will ever confirm that. They'll just leave it vague.

[drewid78]

Im not an IT'er but have to admit I would love it to be true... just so i'd get the more mass effect after the 'wake-up'...But i have to say i object to the 'IT should be moved to fan-fic' posts... the simple fact that the MODs, Bioware and EA haven't moved it to there means its as valid as anything else... IT has been accepted by the powers that be as being as valid an ending as live / doesn't live in high EMS destroy.... so IT is perfectly placed in the story forum as the ending is PLAYER INTERPRETATION DRIVEN... so please stop with the 'your disagreeing with me so move your opinion to fan fic' posts... and that goes to both sides... play nice or dont play.... in the words of a wise meet cat over here.... SIMPLES!

Modifié par drewid78, 07 octobre 2012 - 11:23 .

[darthoptimus003]

if it fixes this mess id pay for it