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If IT or "Wake-up" DLC is released, should it be free or paid?


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Leviathan can take the APPEARANCE of the people Shepard has meet from his/her memories, it also creates objects that Shepard has seen to. You can confirm this because Leviathan creates Brysons lab table, where the husk head can be founded. Hence why the end looks like Bioware reused their work, because that's what the Reapers are doing.

Also we find out that if Leviathan get's into Shepard's mind Shepard starts to have a nose bleed on his/her left nose, like at the end. People may say that " Well Shepard is injured, yet you can see similarities between the two.


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So Shepard is nose bleeding in his dream? What?

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So Shepard is nose bleeding in his dream? What?


I hate it when that happens.

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see, this could have been a nice thread. But people had to come in and start crap. If you didn't want the DLC the OP suggested, then all you have to do is not download it. It is optional and alternate. So please stop being drama queens.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Leviathan can take the APPEARANCE of the people Shepard has meet from his/her memories, it also creates objects that Shepard has seen to. You can confirm this because Leviathan creates Brysons lab table, where the husk head can be founded. Hence why the end looks like Bioware reused their work, because that's what the Reapers are doing.

Also we find out that if Leviathan get's into Shepard's mind Shepard starts to have a nose bleed on his/her left nose, like at the end. People may say that " Well Shepard is injured, yet you can see similarities between the two.


Top.


So Shepard is nose bleeding in his dream? What?


read the rest of the post that are on the last page.

Modifié par masster blaster, 07 octobre 2012 - 11:27 .


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see, this could have been a nice thread. But people had to come in and start crap. If you didn't want the DLC the OP suggested, then all you have to do is not download it. It is optional and alternate. So please stop being drama queens.


No, it's not optional. It's friggen plot changing.

Me not downloading LoTSB doesn't change the fact that Liara is destined to be the Shadow Broker. If Bioware release IT DLC, they're essentially making the IT canon (which is against their "no canon ending" stance they've had for a while now).

Only casual Mass Effect players wouldn't feel obligated to download it. And if it isn't free then they would basically be forcing their core fanbase to pay for something that should have been included with the original game. That's a good way to alienate fans.

Many Bioware employees have come out and told us that they have no plans to release post-ending DLC. And no they're not lying because there is no ****ing reason to lie about that.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 07 octobre 2012 - 11:33 .


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I honestly believe that this won't happen ever because of two things.

1. Being as though there is no post ending and shepard is dead or else, it just won't happen.

2. It would cause more friction here for the forum and more hostilites on either side.

So, in short: Not going to happen, ever. Just like wanting more endings, not going to happen.



  I don't how you have it in your mind that releasing an alternate IT DLC would create more friction on the forums.  People would have to be beyond dumb to think that we got cheated out of an ending when they already released an official ending.  That's why they call it an ALTERNATE ENDING because it is NOT OFFICIAL.


It would mean that EC would be in valid and we Pro enders wouldn't get the scenes we want. Unless BW created an option in the setting to have it either Original/EC w/ Levy, or "IT Ending", which i doubt they would, all things consider, it won't happen. And just as Chris has said, End of the Endings with EC. 

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MegaSovereign wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

see, this could have been a nice thread. But people had to come in and start crap. If you didn't want the DLC the OP suggested, then all you have to do is not download it. It is optional and alternate. So please stop being drama queens.


No, it's not optional. It's friggen plot changing.

Me not downloading LoTSB doesn't change the fact that Liara is destined to be the Shadow Broker. If Bioware release IT DLC, they're essentially making the IT canon (which is against their "no canon ending" stance they've had for a while now).

Only casual Mass Effect players wouldn't feel obligated to download it. And if it isn't free then they would basically be forcing their core fanbase to pay for something that should have been included with the original game. That's a good way to alienate fans.

Many Bioware employees have come out and told us that they have no plans to release post-ending DLC. And no they're not lying because there is no ****ing reason to lie about that.


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MajorKellyRisner wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

see, this could have been a nice thread. But people had to come in and start crap. If you didn't want the DLC the OP suggested, then all you have to do is not download it. It is optional and alternate. So please stop being drama queens.


No, it's not optional. It's friggen plot changing.

Me not downloading LoTSB doesn't change the fact that Liara is destined to be the Shadow Broker. If Bioware release IT DLC, they're essentially making the IT canon (which is against their "no canon ending" stance they've had for a while now).

Only casual Mass Effect players wouldn't feel obligated to download it. And if it isn't free then they would basically be forcing their core fanbase to pay for something that should have been included with the original game. That's a good way to alienate fans.

Many Bioware employees have come out and told us that they have no plans to release post-ending DLC. And no they're not lying because there is no ****ing reason to lie about that.


+1


They lied about a lot of things, how do you know they are not lying still. Anything is possible, until Bioware/ Casey comes out and tells is straight, then everything will remain as is.

Modifié par masster blaster, 07 octobre 2012 - 11:37 .


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Then why do you ITers keep posting in almost every topic something that relates to IT? Honestly, its sickening and annoying that everything is somehow related to this theory. Let us proenders live in peace and quite when we post our ideas and claims.

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masster blaster wrote...

MajorKellyRisner wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

see, this could have been a nice thread. But people had to come in and start crap. If you didn't want the DLC the OP suggested, then all you have to do is not download it. It is optional and alternate. So please stop being drama queens.


No, it's not optional. It's friggen plot changing.

Me not downloading LoTSB doesn't change the fact that Liara is destined to be the Shadow Broker. If Bioware release IT DLC, they're essentially making the IT canon (which is against their "no canon ending" stance they've had for a while now).

Only casual Mass Effect players wouldn't feel obligated to download it. And if it isn't free then they would basically be forcing their core fanbase to pay for something that should have been included with the original game. That's a good way to alienate fans.

Many Bioware employees have come out and told us that they have no plans to release post-ending DLC. And no they're not lying because there is no ****ing reason to lie about that.


+1


They lied about a lot of things, how do you know they are not lying still. Anything is possible, until Bioware/ Casey comes out and tells is straight, then everything will remain as is.


You can continue believing in the IT if you want, no skin off my bones. Just don't hold your breath.

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To be fair, if IT is false, I doubt BioWare will ever confirm that. They'll just leave it vague.


"IT" is false, because in conflicts with everything we actually see in game. And as we all can see, any "IT" discussion can only create an annoyance. One more thread about "IT", one more "holy war". As always.

I think that "IT" isn't even a nice joke anymore. It's more about "hey, we are still here!"... Now I understand why your huge thread was closed for off-topic several times already.

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Seival you have serious issues if all you do is trying to bash IT

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BW has built up indoctrination since ME1. From Sovereign to the Catalyst, indoctrination has cropped up throughout all 3 games affecting a multitude of people.

IT is not a crazy theory put out by desperate people. It is BW's idea since it was introduced in ME1. The studies done by Saren. The poor Salarians being tortured with whispers in various stages of indoctrination. Then you have the Thorion and its thralls.

Indoctrination has been woven into Mass Effect story in each game!

How anyone can believe its fan driven is beyond belief.

Modifié par Massa FX, 07 octobre 2012 - 11:49 .


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MajorKellyRisner wrote...

Then why do you ITers keep posting in almost every topic something that relates to IT? Honestly, its sickening and annoying that everything is somehow related to this theory. Let us proenders live in peace and quite when we post our ideas and claims.


Oh please, don't act like all ITers are so bad. I've seen plenty of people against IT, in this thread alone, that are just as bad. Perhaps if ITers weren't attacked everywhere they went things wouldn't be so bad.

And before you get all whiney herpy-derpy on me, I'm not saying that there aren't really annoying ITers. Because there are, but for crying out loud they're not all bad. That would be like me saying everyone who supports synthesis is retarded because I happened to see a couple of them that were.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

see, this could have been a nice thread. But people had to come in and start crap. If you didn't want the DLC the OP suggested, then all you have to do is not download it. It is optional and alternate. So please stop being drama queens.


No, it's not optional. It's friggen plot changing.

Me not downloading LoTSB doesn't change the fact that Liara is destined to be the Shadow Broker. If Bioware release IT DLC, they're essentially making the IT canon (which is against their "no canon ending" stance they've had for a while now).

Only casual Mass Effect players wouldn't feel obligated to download it. And if it isn't free then they would basically be forcing their core fanbase to pay for something that should have been included with the original game. That's a good way to alienate fans.

Many Bioware employees have come out and told us that they have no plans to release post-ending DLC. And no they're not lying because there is no ****ing reason to lie about that.


It's alternate ending DLC, even if it wasn't you STILL don't have to download it. And how many times have Bioware lied now?

Stop getting your panties in a wad over something you don't even have to choose to affect you.

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The problem is this: Pro-Enders can't post and suggest their ideas without some IT support popping up and shooting off the debate.

How bout we come to a common ground ITers and Proenders?

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MajorKellyRisner wrote...

Then why do you ITers keep posting in almost every topic something that relates to IT? Honestly, its sickening and annoying that everything is somehow related to this theory. Let us proenders live in peace and quite when we post our ideas and claims.


Because it's about IT so we're interested. That's like asking why do people who like pizza eat pizza. Stupid question.

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MajorKellyRisner wrote...

The problem is this: Pro-Enders can't post and suggest their ideas without some IT support popping up and shooting off the debate.

How bout we come to a common ground ITers and Proenders?


They really should come to common grounds, but Seival needs to back off with antagonizing the IT supporters

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MajorKellyRisner wrote...

Then why do you ITers keep posting in almost every topic something that relates to IT? Honestly, its sickening and annoying that everything is somehow related to this theory. Let us proenders live in peace and quite when we post our ideas and claims.


As I already told, "IT"ers demand to tolerate them, but show no toleration to others. This should be stopped.

I think everyone who think this "IT-fest" became too annoying should report each off-topic "IT" post or thread.

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The problem is this: Pro-Enders can't post and suggest their ideas without some IT support popping up and shooting off the debate.

How bout we come to a common ground ITers and Proenders?


Yes, how about you do what I suggest and don't come into an IT thread to bash IT. Which you clearly did. This thread was not about pro-enders. That was blatantly obvious from the title, yet all of you came to troll it.

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AresKeith wrote...

MajorKellyRisner wrote...

The problem is this: Pro-Enders can't post and suggest their ideas without some IT support popping up and shooting off the debate.

How bout we come to a common ground ITers and Proenders?


They really should come to common grounds, but Seival needs to back off with antagonizing the IT supporters


I will as well back off...aslong as a topic that support Pro-ending doesn't have a pop up of IT in it...

as for Seival, just ignore him. 

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BatmanTurian wrote...

MajorKellyRisner wrote...

The problem is this: Pro-Enders can't post and suggest their ideas without some IT support popping up and shooting off the debate.

How bout we come to a common ground ITers and Proenders?


Yes, how about you do what I suggest and don't come into an IT thread to bash IT. Which you clearly did. This thread was not about pro-enders. That was blatantly obvious from the title, yet all of you came to troll it.


I meerly stated that it wasn't going to happen.

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BatmanTurian wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

see, this could have been a nice thread. But people had to come in and start crap. If you didn't want the DLC the OP suggested, then all you have to do is not download it. It is optional and alternate. So please stop being drama queens.


No, it's not optional. It's friggen plot changing.

Me not downloading LoTSB doesn't change the fact that Liara is destined to be the Shadow Broker. If Bioware release IT DLC, they're essentially making the IT canon (which is against their "no canon ending" stance they've had for a while now).

Only casual Mass Effect players wouldn't feel obligated to download it. And if it isn't free then they would basically be forcing their core fanbase to pay for something that should have been included with the original game. That's a good way to alienate fans.

Many Bioware employees have come out and told us that they have no plans to release post-ending DLC. And no they're not lying because there is no ****ing reason to lie about that.


It's alternate ending DLC, even if it wasn't you STILL don't have to download it. And how many times have Bioware lied now?

Stop getting your panties in a wad over something you don't even have to choose to affect you.


That's not alternate though, The IT claims that the events of the ending are happening but we're not getting the full story. The IT is presumably an extension of what is already there. It changes the direction of the narrative which would force any Mass Effect buff to buy it.

So don't kid yourself.

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Seival wrote...

MajorKellyRisner wrote...

Then why do you ITers keep posting in almost every topic something that relates to IT? Honestly, its sickening and annoying that everything is somehow related to this theory. Let us proenders live in peace and quite when we post our ideas and claims.


As I already told, "IT"ers demand to tolerate them, but show no toleration to others. This should be stopped.

I think everyone who think this "IT-fest" became too annoying should report each off-topic "IT" post or thread.


And I think everyone should report you for obsessive harassment, because that's clearly what you do.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

see, this could have been a nice thread. But people had to come in and start crap. If you didn't want the DLC the OP suggested, then all you have to do is not download it. It is optional and alternate. So please stop being drama queens.


No, it's not optional. It's friggen plot changing.

Me not downloading LoTSB doesn't change the fact that Liara is destined to be the Shadow Broker. If Bioware release IT DLC, they're essentially making the IT canon (which is against their "no canon ending" stance they've had for a while now).

Only casual Mass Effect players wouldn't feel obligated to download it. And if it isn't free then they would basically be forcing their core fanbase to pay for something that should have been included with the original game. That's a good way to alienate fans.

Many Bioware employees have come out and told us that they have no plans to release post-ending DLC. And no they're not lying because there is no ****ing reason to lie about that.


It's alternate ending DLC, even if it wasn't you STILL don't have to download it. And how many times have Bioware lied now?

Stop getting your panties in a wad over something you don't even have to choose to affect you.


That's not alternate though, The IT claims that the events of the ending are happening but we're not getting the full story. The IT is presumably an extension of what is already there. It changes the direction of the narrative which would force any Mass Effect buff to buy it.

So don't kid yourself.


ONE more time. It's proposed to be optional. YOU DON'T  even have to download it. You are freaking out about something you don't have to participate in.