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More Dragon Age: Origins, Less DA2


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Malice_Unarmed

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I played Dragon Age: Origins + the expansion about 6-7 times, I wanted to get a save file for a variety of every meaningful choice possible to use for Dragon Age 2, well I played DA2 once, will likely do a second playthrough as renegade prior to DA3. DA2 has so many issues, many believed the game was rushed, I didn't make the game so I can't say why the game is what it is but there were a lot of issues of repetitiveness in it's locations, so many less meaningful choices and ending didn't leave for much options, story itself was up to par but wasn't quite utilized properly. I think the combat looked perty, much more visually appealing then DA:O. I really liked that the main character was voiced acted, the amount of audio dialog is one of the main reasons I love Bioware and will always support them. There has been tons of posts about people complaining, I didn't quite jump on that crying bandwagon however I did read a lot of valid posts but never really replied, my intention isn't to complain, it's to simply state, I love DA:O soooo much, I want to see more of what made that game so amazing in DA3.

Please don't hate on me because I am very much looking forward to DA3, I miss the Dragon Age franchise.

Modifié par Malice_Unarmed, 07 octobre 2012 - 04:46 .


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Minus the recycled dungeons, I would actually prefer a more DA2-like game. Being a console player, the core gameplay and combat was better in DA2 for me.

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Works for me.

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I'll second that. DA2 is a large step backwards compared to DAO.

Modifié par Bfler, 07 octobre 2012 - 04:52 .


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I have to agree i liked DAO more than DA2 purely from replay factor not to mention a few other things, but DA2 did do some things right aswell and it wasnt the terribad game alorra folks seem to think of it, on its own on its own merits the game was not to bad, tbh if i had picked da2 up without playing origins i prob may have enjoyed the game more than i did, but i didnt an since well it was labelled da2 i simply just expected origins but updated so my fault for having expectations lol (tbh i expected da2 to be a war between ferelden an orlais thats how wierd i was thinking)

If they combined both games for da3 i expect one hell of a game tbh (without reused zones :P )

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your thread title says it all, and i agree

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Agreed with your title. We differ on the VP, but it's something I can live with.

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I love a lot of things about DA2 and had more fun with it than DAO. Most of my problems with DA2 comes from the game being rushed so I liked the overall direction they took the game.

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o Ventus wrote...

Minus the recycled dungeons, I would actually prefer a more DA2-like game. Being a console player, the core gameplay and combat was better in DA2 for me.


I agree.

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Cutlasskiwi wrote...

I love a lot of things about DA2 and had more fun with it than DAO. Most of my problems with DA2 comes from the game being rushed so I liked the overall direction they took the game.


Same here. I especially prefer the combat in DA2.

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thats1evildude wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

Minus the recycled dungeons, I would actually prefer a more DA2-like game. Being a console player, the core gameplay and combat was better in DA2 for me.


I agree.


Agree so much :wizard::)

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TsaiMeLemoni wrote...

Same here. I especially prefer the combat in DA2.


Yep, pretty much. :)

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The critic scores prove you can't trust reviewers. Even if it's a bad game, they'll give it a good score because they want EA to keep sending them free review copies of their games. It certainly doesn't deserve a 82 metacritic score. That's insulting to all the good games out there that really do deserve a high score, like Dragon Age: Origins.

Modifié par EpicBoot2daFace, 07 octobre 2012 - 06:27 .


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Origins Inventory Sytem- Didn't find the star ratings helpful and missed being able to equip all the characters at the same location without swapping them around.

DA2 combat- (legacy/Mark assassin) but with Origins exucutions

Origins narrative- No more timeskips and framed narritive please

Origins character Interaction-(wasn't a fan of rivalry/Friendship) No more traveling all over kirkwall for character interactions.

DA2 crafting was so much eaiser to get to grips with

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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

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The critic scores prove you can't trust reviewers. Even if it's a bad game, they'll give it a good score because they want EA to keep sending them free review copies of their games. It certainly doesn't deserve a 82 metacritic score. That's insulting to all the good games out there that really do deserve a high score, like Dragon Age: Origins.


inb4 someone insults the metacritic user reviews.

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I don't think it deserves as low as a 4.2, but I wouldn't go above a 6.0. That's being generous on a good day.

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It seems about right, for me a five is average. So I would give DA2 somewhere in the 3-4 range.

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relhart wrote...

It seems about right, for me a five is average. So I would give DA2 somewhere in the 3-4 range.

I'm playing through it right now, and I might just lower it. I haven't played it in about a year. Without the hype and build up behind it, this game really fails to keep my attention for more than 15 minutes at a time.

Honestly, I think fans have been very clear about what they want: More Origins, less DA2.

Modifié par EpicBoot2daFace, 07 octobre 2012 - 07:05 .


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The fans have not been clear. The opinions are all over the landscape. In this thread alone you have gamers who are split. There is no consensus. The only part this forum agrees on is no more re-cycled environments.

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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

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The critic scores prove you can't trust reviewers. Even if it's a bad game, they'll give it a good score because they want EA to keep sending them free review copies of their games. It certainly doesn't deserve a 82 metacritic score. That's insulting to all the good games out there that really do deserve a high score, like Dragon Age: Origins.


Tinfoil hat time people! The critics are all being bribed!

Just like those sports games that EA releases which frequently get negative reviews from major critics! Clearly EA is bribing critics to give their sports games bad reviews. :wizard:

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I agree with the OP, But the combat system in DA2 was awesome but i did miss the option that allowed you to have two different weapon sets at a time.

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I think combat will be more 'reactive' but also more strategic with the new ending. Back will be the 'weight' of your blows and the idea that maybe that steel sword you're swinging weighs slightly more than a gallon of milk at least.


Also. People like executions. A LOT. Look at Skyrim. Decapitations, Achilles jumping neck-stabs. This is what folks want to see.

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Both game are good. But they are different games. This isn't a perfect analogy but it's like comparing Starcraft to Command&Conquer. If DA:O and DA2 didn't both have Dragon Age titles I think more people who don't like DA2 would have had no problem with it but they wanted another DA:O, which is not unreasonable for a sequel. But the crew at Bioware weren't giving us Dragon Age: Origins 2, they wanted to give us a whole new game that was set in the same world, nothing more. I think they could have been clearer on that at the time, and think they are trying to be clear about that now.

That being said here is what I liked about the two games:

DA:O had a lot more, it was longer, had more depth for who the PC was, had more locations and more impact on the end result and the nation of Ferelden.
DA2 had much better combat (on consoles at least), much better character interaction, a voiced protagonist, and some innovative ways of doing things. It looked sharper too, even if you didn't like the style it was much cleaner and more clear. DA2 took a lot of risks and went some new directions and sometimes it feel short but other times it was perfect.

I'm optimistic that they will be able to do a rare thing, to actually make a game that takes the best from both, and I know that's what they are shooting for. I think they can do it, here's hoping.

Modifié par TCBC_Freak, 07 octobre 2012 - 10:15 .


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Vandicus wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

*snip*

The critic scores prove you can't trust reviewers. Even if it's a bad game, they'll give it a good score because they want EA to keep sending them free review copies of their games. It certainly doesn't deserve a 82 metacritic score. That's insulting to all the good games out there that really do deserve a high score, like Dragon Age: Origins.


Tinfoil hat time people! The critics are all being bribed!

Just like those sports games that EA releases which frequently get negative reviews from major critics! Clearly EA is bribing critics to give their sports games bad reviews. :wizard:

It's a fact that EA and other publishers send reviewers free copies of the games to review. But if they give a game a bad review, the publisher often stops sending them free copies for review purposes. This gives reviewers incentive to give a game a positive score, especially if it's from a large publisher and well known developer.

I wouldn't call it a bribe. It's more in line with coercion.

Modifié par EpicBoot2daFace, 07 octobre 2012 - 10:21 .


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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Vandicus wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

*snip*

The critic scores prove you can't trust reviewers. Even if it's a bad game, they'll give it a good score because they want EA to keep sending them free review copies of their games. It certainly doesn't deserve a 82 metacritic score. That's insulting to all the good games out there that really do deserve a high score, like Dragon Age: Origins.


Tinfoil hat time people! The critics are all being bribed!

Just like those sports games that EA releases which frequently get negative reviews from major critics! Clearly EA is bribing critics to give their sports games bad reviews. :wizard:

It's a fact that EA and other publishers send reviewers free copies of the games to review. But if they give a game a bad review, the publisher often stops sending them free copies for review purposes. This gives reviewers incentive to give a game a positive score, especially if it's from a large publisher and well known developer.

I wouldn't call it a bribe. It's more in line with coercion.


The $60 game doesn't stop critics from giving negative or mediocre reviews for many EA games. IGN and Gamespot can afford to pay for games to review.