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So i found out today how they fixed the vanguard glitch. its a silent nerf. WTF?


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upinya slayin

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 They fixed it by taking out the healthgate. now you die even easier. seriously?

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AngryBobH

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no something with health gate is broken but, very subtly. It affects all classes.

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palmof40sorrows

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You know that makes sense with what I've been experiencing lately playing (host) Slayer. Sometimes you'll just seemingly die "out of nowhere" even though you should have that one fraction of a second left that you would normally. Thanks for noting that. Makes me feel not crazy.

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Trogdorx

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Can you point out a thread where someone has tested this? I would love to see some numbers.

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Red the Aloof

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That would explain why I died easier as a drell vanguard then normal :\\. Feels like every charge I'm playing with fire...

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Zero132132

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I've been on healthgate numerous times since the patch was released. Something's off with it, because it doesn't seem to activate every time, but the healthgate still exists. No idea what changed there.

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palmof40sorrows wrote...

You know that makes sense with what I've been experiencing lately playing (host) Slayer. Sometimes you'll just seemingly die "out of nowhere" even though you should have that one fraction of a second left that you would normally. Thanks for noting that. Makes me feel not crazy.


I've been getting this a lot lately, and it didn't seem to matter if I was hosting or not... 

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RavenousBear

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I have noticed this too when I play vanguards. Especially when I am off-host and a noticeable delay in using Biotic Charge. It has gotten me killed a lot lately.

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Xaijin

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The healthgate issue is a bug and has nothing to do with charge.

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palmof40sorrows

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Xaijin wrote...

The healthgate issue is a bug and has nothing to do with charge.


Interesting. I suppose maybe Vanguards notice it more since we are depending on it to give us that extra fraction of a second to re-orient and charge? Good to know it's a bug. Thanks.

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i died while doing the charge, instead of falling to the ground and staying there i got up again did the charge then died lol

so basically the character did the charge twice, it looked pretty kool. although the hits did not connect and no damage was applied to the enemies

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corporal doody

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Xaijin wrote...

The healthgate issue is a bug and has nothing to do with charge.


yeah...health splat does not discriminate. glad it is just a bug and not a design feature. Cuz to be honest...if the tradeoff for non-glitchy vanguards is  INSTAdeath.....non-glitched vanguards arent worth it imho.

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Javo2357

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That's odd...I played a game earlier with my Drellguard and didn't notice it. As far as I'm concerned, my healthgate was working just fine.

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upinya slayin

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Maybe its not charge then but on platinum i have yet to see myself have a healthgate since the patch. its frustrating

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Red Panda

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I got killed while charging as a krogan battlemaster.

Odd thing is, I wound up invulnerable the rest of the match.

Kinda odd, not sure exactly what made it happen.

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upinya slayin wrote...

Maybe its not charge then but on platinum i have yet to see myself have a healthgate since the patch. its frustrating


Wouldn't know about Platinum, but the five matches I played after the patch (3 Silver, two Gold) the Health Gate worked perfectly.

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MikeSlackenerny

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Sorry to ask a noob question but can someone briefly explain what a healthgate is? I know about the shieldgate so this must relate to its health counterpart I suppose?

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Javo2357

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Lathrim wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Maybe its not charge then but on platinum i have yet to see myself have a healthgate since the patch. its frustrating


Wouldn't know about Platinum, but the five matches I played after the patch (3 Silver, two Gold) the Health Gate worked perfectly.

This. I haven't had a problem with the healthgate..

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Javo2357

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MikeSlackenerny wrote...

Sorry to ask a noob question but can someone briefly explain what a healthgate is? I know about the shieldgate so this must relate to its health counterpart I suppose?

It's the same as the shieldgate but it prevents you from getting oneshotted when your shields are down. That way, it should take at least 3 shots to down you...1 to break your shieldgate, 1 to break the healthgate, and another to finally take out the last sliver of health you have left.

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MikeSlackenerny

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Javo2357 wrote...
It's the same as the shieldgate but it prevents you from getting oneshotted when your shields are down. That way, it should take at least 3 shots to down you...1 to break your shieldgate, 1 to break the healthgate, and another to finally take out the last sliver of health you have left.


I see thanks!

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upinya slayin

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I think its platinum only. something changed on healthgate. Its been non existent after the patch

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5_Mania

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They fixed the death animation.

This is noticeable for all classes. Notice how the camera immediately pans out once you die instead of the swivel camera zoomed in effect.

I think the issue from the Vanguard is getting killed before or after a biotic charge is launched. The camera would act poorly following the event and bam, Vanguard glitch.

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It's still there, I've been watching it closely. Something is up with it though seem to be going down more unexpectedly.

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Zjarcal

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I dunno, I just did a few platinum games and I was at healthgate quite a few times.

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Mash3d

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Im pretty sure they fixed the Vanguard glitch with the new Death Animation