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[Zero132132]

Maybe they increased the delay between when it could trigger? Because it's happened to me plenty on gold runs. Might have even happened on one Platinum run, but maybe not.

[ASmoothCriminalx]

upinya slayin wrote...

I think its platinum only. something changed on healthgate. Its been non existent after the patch

artificial difficulty. They heard rumors that people thought platinum was too easy. Next time they'll remove our shields.

/sarcasm

This makes sense. I'm a plat player and the game has felt so different post patch. I just kept feeling like I was dying prematurely and assumed it was just a mind**ck because of the death animation.

Modifié par ASmoothCriminalx, 08 octobre 2012 - 01:47 .

[upinya slayin]

ASmoothCriminalx wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

I think its platinum only. something changed on healthgate. Its been non existent after the patch

artificial difficulty. They heard rumors that people thought platinum was too easy. Next time they'll remove our shields.

/sarcasm

This makes sense. I'm a plat player and the game has felt so different post patch. I just kept feeling like I was dying prematurely and assumed it was just a mind**ck because of the death animation.

There is a different feel to platinum. 1st off you seem to just drop dead. I don't know if it maked any sense, but before you would be getting shot and die, now you drop dead with nothing shotting at you. like mayb and animation issue or something? 2ndly I seem to never get a healthgate on platinum.

I'm thinking it might be lag or connection related. I have to reset my router cause 1 game i did start with 3.5 bars of health

[SuperADJ]

Has anyone else had instances where charge just flat-out refuses to activate? I've had it quite a few times as a Slayer now. Basically the CD timer is reset, I hit the button mapped to BC and my character just stands there. I've had it happen where I've been pressing the button for several seconds and nothing happens, which nearly always resulted in an embarassing and needless death. Frustrating.

[SlabHardcheese]

Haven't noticed this on the lower difficulties, but have noticed the inability to charge certain enemies once in a while. Even for several seconds when no one else is around but you and one enemy, you can spam charge a dozen times and nothing. Happens to me with slayer about once every 3 or 4 games.

[Bleachrude]

Might be specific to a map....Had the "doesn't do anything" glitch a couple of times only on Rio with an asari vanguard.

Weird in that it only happened once or twice in the early waves on Rio but by Wave 4, everything was fine even if I was the exact same position in a latter wave.

[Kalas Magnus]

Javo2357 wrote...

Lathrim wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Maybe its not charge then but on platinum i have yet to see myself have a healthgate since the patch. its frustrating

Wouldn't know about Platinum, but the five matches I played after the patch (3 Silver, two Gold) the Health Gate worked perfectly.

This. I haven't had a problem with the healthgate..

 

Trogdorx wrote...

Can you point out a thread where someone has tested this? I would love to see some numbers.

[NuclearTech76]

Don't know if it is the vanguard glitch but something is definitely broken with health gating now.

[upinya slayin]

SuperADJ wrote...

Has anyone else had instances where charge just flat-out refuses to activate? I've had it quite a few times as a Slayer now. Basically the CD timer is reset, I hit the button mapped to BC and my character just stands there. I've had it happen where I've been pressing the button for several seconds and nothing happens, which nearly always resulted in an embarassing and needless death. Frustrating.

Thats always ben an issue, even while hosting. I've also noticted some enmies become "uncharagable" i had a ravager once on hydra in the LZ that was uncharagble. No matter what i couldn't charge it. I popped its sack and charged a swarmer no promlem, but couldn't charge him for some reason

[BadDad67]

upinya slayin wrote...

ASmoothCriminalx wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

I think its platinum only. something changed on healthgate. Its been non existent after the patch

artificial difficulty. They heard rumors that people thought platinum was too easy. Next time they'll remove our shields.

/sarcasm

This makes sense. I'm a plat player and the game has felt so different post patch. I just kept feeling like I was dying prematurely and assumed it was just a mind**ck because of the death animation.

There is a different feel to platinum. 1st off you seem to just drop dead. I don't know if it maked any sense, but before you would be getting shot and die, now you drop dead with nothing shotting at you. like mayb and animation issue or something? 2ndly I seem to never get a healthgate on platinum.

I'm thinking it might be lag or connection related. I have to reset my router cause 1 game i did start with 3.5 bars of health

I was experiencing this exact thing on Gold at times throughout weekend. I would get banged around and then make it to cover... and then just drop dead where I would normally charge up. It was ecxactly like dying after being hit with the Banshee Reave, I kept thinking that but no Banshee on the map.
Maybe lag... 
I usually only experience lag early in the morning when I am trying to focus on the coffee pot after a long night of video games. 

Modifié par BadDad67, 08 octobre 2012 - 03:29 .

[waltervolpatto]

OperatingWookie wrote...

I got killed while charging as a krogan battlemaster.

Odd thing is, I wound up invulnerable the rest of the match.

Kinda odd, not sure exactly what made it happen.

got this with a GE....

was fun from here on to smack the banshee....

It looked like I was below healt gate but I did not die...like the count is not exactly 0 but 0.000001 therefore even if I get hammered, it never goes down to exaclty 0 then you cannot die...

[ToaOrka]

Health and Shield-gate have been wonky since the patch, but I doubt Bioware will confirm or fix it at all.

[NuclearTech76]

SuperADJ wrote...

Has anyone else had instances where charge just flat-out refuses to activate? I've had it quite a few times as a Slayer now. Basically the CD timer is reset, I hit the button mapped to BC and my character just stands there. I've had it happen where I've been pressing the button for several seconds and nothing happens, which nearly always resulted in an embarassing and needless death. Frustrating.

Heavy melee will clear it but yeah it sucks and will get you killed at times.

[Prince Bubblegeth]

upinya slayin wrote...

SuperADJ wrote...

Has anyone else had instances where charge just flat-out refuses to activate? I've had it quite a few times as a Slayer now. Basically the CD timer is reset, I hit the button mapped to BC and my character just stands there. I've had it happen where I've been pressing the button for several seconds and nothing happens, which nearly always resulted in an embarassing and needless death. Frustrating.

Thats always ben an issue, even while hosting. I've also noticted some enmies become "uncharagable" i had a ravager once on hydra in the LZ that was uncharagble. No matter what i couldn't charge it. I popped its sack and charged a swarmer no promlem, but couldn't charge him for some reason

I'm pretty sure the problem is not exclusive to BC. Those ravagers in Hydra just chilling there can't even be hit with Shadow Strike. Happens to primes too. 

And about dropping dead - yes, it has happened to me a few times before the patch. There was also a time when no other enemy was around but a brute and it killed me with a single lunge though my shields and health were full.

Modifié par Prince Bubblegeth, 08 octobre 2012 - 03:31 .

[Geek]

I do think the death animation is part of the fix for the vanguard glitch. I have noticed being almost finished with the throwing grenade animation and have gone down and the grenades don't throw. Seems like they would have before the patch.

I may be completely off on this one, but it feels like the health gate is still there, but there is no longer any momentary invulnerability. A single shot like from a prime will drop you to health gate, but rapid fire weapons like from the centurion bring you down quicker. Seems like before when you hit health gate you had a moment longer to react.

[Ramsutin]

Im pretty sure my healthgates work on plat.

[waltervolpatto]

upinya slayin wrote...

SuperADJ wrote...

Has anyone else had instances where charge just flat-out refuses to activate? I've had it quite a few times as a Slayer now. Basically the CD timer is reset, I hit the button mapped to BC and my character just stands there. I've had it happen where I've been pressing the button for several seconds and nothing happens, which nearly always resulted in an embarassing and needless death. Frustrating.

Thats always ben an issue, even while hosting. I've also noticted some enmies become "uncharagable" i had a ravager once on hydra in the LZ that was uncharagble. No matter what i couldn't charge it. I popped its sack and charged a swarmer no promlem, but couldn't charge him for some reason

saw that..
1) if i move just a little sometimes i can charge.
2) if I unload the gun and i kill at lease one enemy it start back.
3) end of the wave usually fix it.

but yes, occasinally i look as an idiot standing there and unable to charge or Shadow strike the enemy

[jakenou]

regack wrote...

palmof40sorrows wrote...

You know that makes sense with what I've been experiencing lately playing (host) Slayer. Sometimes you'll just seemingly die "out of nowhere" even though you should have that one fraction of a second left that you would normally. Thanks for noting that. Makes me feel not crazy.

I've been getting this a lot lately, and it didn't seem to matter if I was hosting or not... 

Also noticed this, and Biocharge seems unpredictable to activate too.

I wonder if healthgate = death is due to some of the enemy fixes though. Centurions and Marauders seem to have a much higher RoF and better accuracy.

Modifié par jkthunder, 08 octobre 2012 - 03:34 .

[Epsilon330]

Didn't they "fix" the glitch by simply making it so you can't charge when you're on your last health segment, and your shields have failed?

[upinya slayin]

rymoulton wrote...

I do think the death animation is part of the fix for the vanguard glitch. I have noticed being almost finished with the throwing grenade animation and have gone down and the grenades don't throw. Seems like they would have before the patch.

I may be completely off on this one, but it feels like the health gate is still there, but there is no longer any momentary invulnerability. A single shot like from a prime will drop you to health gate, but rapid fire weapons like from the centurion bring you down quicker. Seems like before when you hit health gate you had a moment longer to react.

Someone mentioned a health gate cooldown to me but not sure if that is true either. I wish BW would comment on this so we know for sure cause right now i'm tryign to figure out what has happened since the patch and i can't fully pinpoint it

[sareth_65536]

Aren't you talking about health display glitch? It's almost harmless but may be annoying and confusing.
I mean, when your shields are broken and you got a hit to your health it rarely may not display the damage. So you see a full health bar, but in reality you are healthgated. So if you get another hit, you die. It looks like you died with full health.
If you don't die until your health is restored, you will see that your health is dropped to 1 bar no matter of how many bars you had.

I was trying to record it, but it seems that it doesn't happen on host.

Modifié par sareth_65536, 08 octobre 2012 - 03:54 .

[P51Mus7ang]

My buddy that I have been playing with from day one, hundreds of games at all levels, noticed this Friday, I thought personally something had been fixed with the enemies because I was going down more than usual, my buddy a lot more......I would suggest something has been broken, no idea what, I do know the way we are playing gold is quite different than earlier in the week.

[comrade8472]

it works once and awhile and at times just drop into bleedout.

[N7 Whiskey]

They removed the ragdoll death animation, not the health gate.