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HiddenInWar

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Any word on that yet? Or any romance news in general will do. 

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garrusfan1

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I can almost guarentee there will be romance options as for same sex realationships they will probably be there since DAO and DA2 had them and ME3 for that matter. But don't worry there will be romance options

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I think Word of God said it would be like DA2, because of how there are only four romances (two for each gender). David Gaider has shown interest in handling it like ME3 did, with exclusive same sex romances, but doesn't think that's possible with budget and the amount of characters.

That's what I heard, at least. I don't have word for word quotes, though.

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Dirgegun wrote...

I think Word of God said it would be like DA2, because of how there are only four romances (two for each gender). David Gaider has shown interest in handling it like ME3 did, with exclusive same sex romances, but doesn't think that's possible with budget and the amount of characters.

That's what I heard, at least. I don't have word for word quotes, though.


Have they said there's only 4 romance options this game? I'd love to have more (I'd love to just have more companions in general though, I realize why we can't but still)

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There's a better quote than the following, but I couldn't find it in my history. The quote below is a response to a question if the DA3 romance options would all be gender-inclusive (as they were in DA2).

David Gaider wrote...

Again, this is just an invitation to a flame war-- the last time this came up (yesterday?) it descended into madness and had to be removed from the forum.

Suffice to say the answer is this:

1) The companions weren't all bisexual in DA2. Two of them were. You being able to romance whoever you liked is not the same thing, outside of the idea that in some other reality you're aware of the possibility that they might romance someone of a different gender.

2) Yes, not everyone likes subjective sexuality. In the interest of fairness and fun gameplay, this means that such metagaming takes a backseat. This is a conscious decision, and not one that had much impact on how the characters were written. A character's personality does not change according to who they're romancing, and somone who thinks it does is engaging in an imaginative exercise of dubious origin.

3) As I've said previously, an array of set sexualities would be my preference-- provided we had the resources to do additional romances. Considering DA2 had 4 romances, it was decided that was the best way to go.

4) What we're doing for DA3, romance-wise, is yet to be announced. It probably won't be for some time yet.

And with that, I'm shutting it down before it gets ugly.

I think it's safe to say that if there are romances in DA3 there will be same-sex romance options (either exclusive or inclusive, depending on how many they have, it sounds like).

Modifié par devSin, 08 octobre 2012 - 01:52 .


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devSin wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Again, this is just an invitation to a flame war-- the last time this came up (yesterday?) it descended into madness and had to be removed from the forum.

Suffice to say the answer is this:

1) The companions weren't all bisexual in DA2. Two of them were. You being able to romance whoever you liked is not the same thing, outside of the idea that in some other reality you're aware of the possibility that they might romance someone of a different gender.

2) Yes, not everyone likes subjective sexuality. In the interest of fairness and fun gameplay, this means that such metagaming takes a backseat. This is a conscious decision, and not one that had much impact on how the characters were written. A character's personality does not change according to who they're romancing, and somone who thinks it does is engaging in an imaginative exercise of dubious origin.

3) As I've said previously, an array of set sexualities would be my preference-- provided we had the resources to do additional romances. Considering DA2 had 4 romances, it was decided that was the best way to go.

4) What we're doing for DA3, romance-wise, is yet to be announced. It probably won't be for some time yet.

And with that, I'm shutting it down before it gets ugly.


Ah, thankyou for the actual quote!  That means it's up in the air for DA3 still.

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Devsin what LI in DA2 wasn't bisexual
Edit nothing against it though I have no problem with them doing it either way

Modifié par garrusfan1, 08 octobre 2012 - 01:51 .


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There hasn't been word on anything other than the games been planned.

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arguably Fenris and Merrill were not bi because if you played as a man and romaced Merrill  she would be stright cause she naver says nor indcates in any way that she'd be in to woman or the other way around if your playing as a woman(you can't tell if she's in to men) same thing with Fenris 

Modifié par Quicksilver26, 08 octobre 2012 - 01:59 .


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garrusfan1 wrote...

Devsin what LI in DA2 wasn't bisexual
Edit nothing against it though I have no problem with them doing it either way

Presumably, Fenris and Merrill were straight/gay depending on if you were playing a man/woman Hawke. Isabela and Anders were bi.

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Quicksilver26 wrote...

arguably Fenris and Merrill

Uh what Are you talking about

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garrusfan1 wrote...

Devsin what LI in DA2 wasn't bisexual
Edit nothing against it though I have no problem with them doing it either way

Only Anders and Isabela were bisexual (actually, Anders says he's pansexual).

Fenris, Merrill, and Sebastian don't have a defined sexuality that we know of (and like David says, it doesn't really make a difference in how they write the characters). You can choose to believe they're bisexual because some other Hawke in some other game can romance them (regardless of gender), but they're not written that way.

Modifié par devSin, 08 octobre 2012 - 01:57 .


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Sebastian is a Lady Hawke only option, actually, isn't he? So he's completely straight.

edit: actually, does Fenris start up his thing with Isabela if you're a male Hawke that doesn't romance either of them? If so, he's bi too, then.

Modifié par scootermcgaffin, 08 octobre 2012 - 01:57 .


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scootermcgaffin wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

Devsin what LI in DA2 wasn't bisexual
Edit nothing against it though I have no problem with them doing it either way

Presumably, Fenris and Merrill were straight/gay depending on if you were playing a man/woman Hawke. Isabela and Anders were bi.

That doesn't make sense to me since if your a male hawk and you don't romance fenris or issabela they get together and since fenris has the option to date hawk but ends up dating issabela that would make him bisexual

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scootermcgaffin wrote...

Sebastian is a Lady Hawke only option, actually, isn't he? So he's completely straight.

edit: actually, does Fenris start up his thing with Isabela if you're a male Hawke that doesn't romance either of them? If so, he's bi too, then.

Forgot about Sebastian but he isn't really a romance option I think since they never have sex or move in together 

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So it really works out this way:

Anders: Pansexual
Fenris: Bisexual (or Straight/Bisexual depending on Hawke. Or just Hawkesexual)
Isabela: Bisexual
Merrill: Straight/Gay depending on Hawke
Sebastian: Straight

Modifié par scootermcgaffin, 08 octobre 2012 - 02:03 .


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You need to go back and read David's first and second points.

The sexuality is subjective, according to how your game plays out.

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garrusfan1 wrote...

scootermcgaffin wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

Devsin what LI in DA2 wasn't bisexual
Edit nothing against it though I have no problem with them doing it either way

Presumably, Fenris and Merrill were straight/gay depending on if you were playing a man/woman Hawke. Isabela and Anders were bi.

That doesn't make sense to me since if your a male hawk and you don't romance fenris or issabela they get together and since fenris has the option to date hawk but ends up dating issabela that would make him bisexual


arguably dosn't matter if you can romace him it matters that you don't so unless you actually do so he's not gay or bi he's stright :D

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anyhoo I can't wait to see what beautiful s/s character they come up with
i so want me a female warrior to sweep me of my feet

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I am sure they will have good LIs

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 I loved the way the did in Mass Effect 3. I played Maleshep for reference, the relationship wouldn't be the same for Garus and Shepard or Samantha and Shepard had Garus or Samantha been bisexual. Although I'm not sure if adding in more romances would take away from those that are already there, that said I didn't have a problem with the way they did it in DA2 either but it'll be interesting to see how they decide to implement it in DA3.

Modifié par Iveybella, 08 octobre 2012 - 04:20 .


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Iveybella wrote...

 I loved the way the did in Mass Effect 3. I played Maleshep for reference, the relationship wouldn't be the same for Garus and Shepard and Samantha Shepard had they been bisexual. Although I'm not sure if adding in more romances would take away from those that are already there, that said I didn't have a problem with the way they did it in DA2 either but it'll be interesting to see how they decide to implement it in DA3.


i'm gonna be so sorry for asking this but i must casue it just bugs the hell out of me when people say this 
but  how the hell does him might being with a guy in someone elses playthrough take anything out of your relationship? 
just because it's there does not chage the way he or they feel

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There hasn't been any comments about relationships in Dragon Age 3, but I would expect it to be like any recent BioWare game for they seem to be keen on including multiple romances.

I just hope romancing a character in DA3 feels like it takes more effort then DA2, for it felt to me if you went "hey sexy" you wound up in a relationship. That is one thing I liked about ME3 is that the romances felt like their best effort yet and I hope they stride to improve upon what has been in previous BioWare games even if its not the same team.

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these one tidbit of romance stuff from David Gaider
random kissing and so forth too (since that appears to be a thing, and doesn't really cost us much to do-- so there's one feature I can say did indeed come from the forums).

(http://social.biowar...7664/1#14299191)

Modifié par Quicksilver26, 08 octobre 2012 - 03:16 .


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geez north american culture

at the sheer mention of a game, the first thing that you people think of is the sex

has literally only been announced