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[garrusfan1]

 I know some people liked her but when she was your LI it felt ..... wrong if you know what I mean because they made her act so young. It may be just me but please don't do that again. Anyone agree

[weaselshep]

She didn't come off to me as young so much as neurotic. Which is a totally different reason to say hands off of her.

[jennamarae]

They did make her a bit more naive (I think that's the word I'm looking for) than she should have been. I've always wondered if they chose to include Isabella first and then decided to make the alternate female love interest the complete polar opposite without realizing that doing so made Merril seem very childlike.

[garrusfan1]

jennamarae wrote...

They did make her a bit more naive (I think that's the word I'm looking for) than she should have been. I've always wondered if they chose to include Isabella first and then decided to make the alternate female love interest the complete polar opposite without realizing that doing so made Merril seem very childlike.

Maybe but IDK she looks young too

[Sejborg]

So they made a child a LI. So what? For all I care they could have made your siblings LI's as well. Sure it's wrong by our standards and it might also be wrong in Thedas. Could still be an interesting story if told well. Like in Game of Thrones for instance. Alot of weird things going on there. Still very interesting though.

For the record. I think the Merril romance was a creepy romance, but I think it failed because it was as if the game didn't recognise it as creepy. But I guess it depends on how young or old you roleplay your Hawke. Mine was around 30 and with merrill being so young it became strange. Perhaps if I roleplayed a 15 year old or something. 

Modifié par Sejborg, 08 octobre 2012 - 02:09 .

[ScarMK]

I was curious as to her romance plays out so I romanced her in one play-through. To me it was creepy with a female hawke. A male hawke... just wow...

[StElmo]

I am playing DA2 through for the first time and she is not young at all, Eve Myles, her voice actor, is 34 and you can hear that when she's fighting.

Do you know why Merril seems young? Because of the Welsh accent.

You listen to a welsh accent and you will see why she seems young.

I think she was just a sheltered elf, which makes more sense.

[Plaintiff]

Even if I was inclined to romance Merrill, I wouldn't.

It's one thing to be naive. It's another to still be that way after living in Kirkwall for seven years.

Merrill is so thoroughly detached from reality at times that I'm tempted to think she has some sort of developmental disorder. Most of Hawke's innuendos and flirtations soar clear over her head. I struggle to believe that she even knows what sex is. I could never romance her because I'd feel like a predator.

But I don't think that Bioware is going to just rehash a character they already did, so I think we're fine.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 08 octobre 2012 - 02:11 .

[StElmo]

I dunno why people think Merrill is a child, its just the accent: www.youtube.com/watch

[Dirgegun]

Naive love interests aren't really my cup of tea, but I don't think Merrill is childlike. Is she a bit sheltered and naive? Yes, but that doesn't automatically equal a child. It just equals a girl who is a little bit sheltered, a little bit naive, and might not have ever thought about romance before Hawke came along, because she was so focused in her duties as the Keeper's second.

[garrusfan1]

It wasn't just the welch accent it was how she looked and acted and like I said maybe it is just me

[StElmo]

Plaintiff wrote...

Even if I was inclined to romance Merrill, I wouldn't.

It's one thing to be naive. It's another to still be that way after living in Kirkwall for seven years.

Merrill is so thoroughly detached from reality at times that I'm tempted to think she has some sort of developmental disorder. Most of Hawke's innuendos and flirtations soar clear over her head.

If you have Merrill in your squad her and Isabella's banter shows that Merrill is well aware of what sex is and all that. Its just she has her head in the clouds

[Dirgegun]

StElmo wrote...

I dunno why people think Merrill is a child, its just the accent: www.youtube.com/watch

I think people mean her personality, not how she sounds. Or at least their preception of her personality. 

Modifié par Dirgegun, 08 octobre 2012 - 02:16 .

[Dirgegun]

StElmo wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Even if I was inclined to romance Merrill, I wouldn't.

It's one thing to be naive. It's another to still be that way after living in Kirkwall for seven years.

Merrill is so thoroughly detached from reality at times that I'm tempted to think she has some sort of developmental disorder. Most of Hawke's innuendos and flirtations soar clear over her head.

If you have Merrill in your squad her and Isabella's banter shows that Merrill is well aware of what sex is and all that. Its just she has her head in the clouds

I do agree with this, however! She has her head in the clouds, and at times I think she even does it on purpose to troll. I remember a moment in MotA, where the two companions are looking for a captured Hawke. I forget who she was with, but Merrill makes a comment that was completely off topic and the companion is all "...You're doing this on purpose!" and Merrill just giggles.

Edit: Just remembered who she was with! It was when she was with Carver, and Carver is fumbling over his crush on her. I think this moment pretty much shows Merrill understands flirting but choses to ignore it on purpose.

Modifié par Dirgegun, 08 octobre 2012 - 02:18 .

[StElmo]

garrusfan1 wrote...

It wasn't just the welch accent it was how she looked and acted and like I said maybe it is just me

Probably in the age where all mature women in the media MUST be buxom babes like Isabella, people probably thought Merrill was too skinny looking to be an adult in teh gamez.

Blame that on the elf redesign and unrealistic expectations of mature women in the media.

I'd much prefer more women in games to look like merrill then creepy childlike characters of Dead or Alive fighting games *shudders*

[StElmo]

Dirgegun wrote...
I think she even does it on purpose to troll. I remember a moment in MotA, where the two companions are looking for a captured Hawke. I forget who she was with, but Merrill makes a comment that was completely off topic and the companion is all "...You're doing this on purpose!" and Merrill just giggles.

She absolutely does do it to troll, I've noticed this a few times while playing during different banter (I am still playing DA2 for the first time at the mo)

[ejustinp]

Romancing Merrill left me uncomfortable. Having the manic pixie girl as a li was fine but her appearance coupled with some of her behavior made the whole thing feel off.

[Sejborg]

StElmo wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

It wasn't just the welch accent it was how she looked and acted and like I said maybe it is just me

Probably in the age where all mature women in the media MUST be buxom babes like Isabella, people probably thought Merrill was too skinny looking to be an adult in teh gamez.

Blame that on the elf redesign and unrealistic expectations of mature women in the media.

I'd much prefer more women in games to look like merrill then creepy childlike characters of Dead or Alive fighting games *shudders*

Nope. That's not it either. You don't have to be a one noted character that only talks about sex to appear mature. Far from it actually. 

[Tommyspa]

Merrill is much more than naive in the way Isabela is much more than just a sex fiend.

Nathaniel Howe put it best "I am not a fan of over-simplifications."

[StElmo]

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/306/index/7272535/1#7275408

Merrill is the age of the warden in DA:O

She also has markings in DA2 so she is an adult - apparently that is a thing.

She has her head in the clouds, but is well aware that this is her personality - so Hawke is not "taking advantage" - if everyone thought that, Merrill (who is an adult and that is her personality) would never find anyone ):

I think it's the welsh accent and the inability for some players to see she was trolling the party during some of her sillier comments.

Am i the only one who saw the layers in Merrills character? 

If you are gonna talk creepy, Romancing Liara T'Soni in ME1 is probably more creepy.

[StElmo]

Sejborg wrote...

StElmo wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

It wasn't just the welch accent it was how she looked and acted and like I said maybe it is just me

Probably in the age where all mature women in the media MUST be buxom babes like Isabella, people probably thought Merrill was too skinny looking to be an adult in teh gamez.

Blame that on the elf redesign and unrealistic expectations of mature women in the media.

I'd much prefer more women in games to look like merrill then creepy childlike characters of Dead or Alive fighting games *shudders*

Nope. That's not it either. You don't have to be a one noted character that only talks about sex to appear mature. Far from it actually. 

What exactly are you disagreeing with?

[Quicksilver26]

my god you're just hating on everyone today aren't you lol

[Sanunes]

Personally, I found Merril to be a bit naive for my tastes to romance her, but since she is "of age" and we aren't forced to romance her, I just ignored any romance with her.

[Dirgegun]

StElmo wrote...

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/306/index/7272535/1#7275408

Merrill is the age of the warden in DA:O

She also has markings in DA2 so she is an adult - apparently that is a thing.

She has her head in the clouds, but is well aware that this is her personality - so Hawke is not "taking advantage" - if everyone thought that, Merrill (who is an adult and that is her personality) would never find anyone ):

I think it's the welsh accent and the inability for some players to see she was trolling the party during some of her sillier comments.

Am i the only one who saw the layers in Merrills character? 

If you are gonna talk creepy, Romancing Liara T'Soni in ME1 is probably more creepy.

This! I saw Merrill as a bit of a troll, a girl with her head in the clouds -- and she knows she can be like that, and a girl who is perhaps a little sheltered in that she doesn't know about things outside the Dalish culture, at least at first. She isn't exactly like she was in DA:O, but I don't think she's FAR from it, either. We just happened to see her in DA:O when a friend and member of her clan was missing and another was injured and tainted... after going somewhere they should have known better to explore without telling anyone.  

[Ghost]

You have so many threads!