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Melca36 wrote...

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I don't know why people have such hate towards him


Plot irrelevance.  Inconsistent characterization.  

Oh and his theme music plays constantly regardless of circumstances and is literally named "fenris_emo_mus" in the game files.

Is that enough?





Its funny how his fans excuse everything he does. He is just as emo as Anders.  They are cut from the same card and just thrown on opposite sides.

Anyway, I made this thread to prove a point.

No character is perfect.  

I'm not saying he's perfect. I'm just wondering why people excuse his pain as emo. He's had a rough life and if he has a somewhat cynical view of the world, he can express it just like everyone else.

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MassEffectGirl19 wrote...

There is nothing wrong with Fenris. He is not emo. He is a ex slave who has issues with mages cause of his ex master. That doesn't mean he is emo. He's just a misunderstood, sexy elf who hasn't been treated well in his life so if he doesn't want to sugercoat the truth to make you feel better, good. It's what you deserve. I don't know why people have such hate towards him. I mean look at my avatar, how could you hate that? :3



I think Fenris is very cool :D:D

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New suggestion; let's just replace all of the characters with trained monkeys. Everyone likes monkeys.


I hate monkeys. They throw up and eat their vomit, poop and throw their turds at you, masturbate in front of the whole world (I remember being at a zoo years ago and this baboon was just playing with his...well, yeah...). They're sick creatures, man.

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ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

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I figured Fenris deserves one too. :wizard:


I actually think that how entirely incidental he was to anything else that happened in DAII kinda suggests he doesn't deserve one.


Maybe he should have been the DLC instead of Sebastian then. :wizard:

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You people are all heartless mage lovers. He was a slave!

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MassEffectGirl19 wrote...

I'm not saying he's perfect. I'm just wondering why people excuse his pain as emo. He's had a rough life and if he has a somewhat cynical view of the world, he can express it just like everyone else.


Because unlike the other companions, it's all he's got going on.

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J.C. Blade wrote...

That doesn't mean he should complain about it to Hawke for SEVEN years without making some effort to make a step forward in his life. Especially if Hawke happens to be a mage, in which case she becomes his proxy to hate on Danarius, mages, magic and more Danarius.


Trust me when I say that pulling yourself away from a bad past is incredibly incredibly difficult.

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I liked Fenris. Then he ratted one of my Hawkes out to Meredith as if it was a joke, a mage no less. I liked him less after that. In regards to what I'd like to see in DA3 I'd like the PC to have an option to react to things like this. Simply not using Fenris afterwards felt as an inadequate response to his betrayal. It's similar to Sebastians party banter about going to the templars. That's the kind of conversation the protagonist should preferably get a voice in.

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Fenris say mages are prone to get influenced by demons, but he got influenced by demon in the Fade, that got right out his nose, still his view about mages don't change a bit after that

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Snake91 wrote...

MassEffectGirl19 wrote...

There is nothing wrong with Fenris. He is not emo. He is a ex slave who has issues with mages cause of his ex master. That doesn't mean he is emo. He's just a misunderstood, sexy elf who hasn't been treated well in his life so if he doesn't want to sugercoat the truth to make you feel better, good. It's what you deserve. I don't know why people have such hate towards him. I mean look at my avatar, how could you hate that? :3



I think Fenris is very cool :D:D

You just went up in my book :happy:

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So you think it was alright of him to be vicious to Merrill? 


No, I don't think that's alright, anymore than Anders' words are alright.

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Now, let's wait for "Please no Isabella like characters"

Fox In The Box wrote...

New suggestion; let's just replace all of the characters with trained monkeys. Everyone likes monkeys.


Or Mabari's. They're the only one with any decent opinion.

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DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Now, let's wait for "Please no Isabella like characters"


We already had one, it was disguised with a "no skimpy characters" thread title.

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what the hell man is a no one like lizzy gonna come up next? really what the hell is wrong with you people?

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How can y'all hate Fenris. If the pale elf weren't in the game, there wouldn't be any Fenris /Anders shipping fanfic and where we would be without Fenders?

Oh...

nm.

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Quicksilver26 wrote...

what the hell man is a no one like lizzy gonna come up next? really what the hell is wrong with you people?

Exactly, you people are even crazier then I thought.

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EntropicAngel wrote...

J.C. Blade wrote...

That doesn't mean he should complain about it to Hawke for SEVEN years without making some effort to make a step forward in his life. Especially if Hawke happens to be a mage, in which case she becomes his proxy to hate on Danarius, mages, magic and more Danarius.


Trust me when I say that pulling yourself away from a bad past is incredibly incredibly difficult.

Up to ten years of freedom, at least five good people who have been trying to help him up to this point and he is still suck in a rundown mansion, raiding the vine cellar, gambling and venting out his frustrations on any nearby mage in the group.  People who do not want to be helped do not deserve to be helped.

At least Anders has the excuse of actually being possesed by an immortal being of absolutes.

Modifié par J.C. Blade, 08 octobre 2012 - 07:27 .


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I don't like Fenris at all, but none of the characters are written particularly well in DAII anyway. He's a step above Anders anyway.

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J.C. Blade wrote...

Up to ten years of freedom, at least five good people who have been trying to help him up to this point and he is still suck in a rundown mansion, raiding the vine cellar, gmabling and wenting out his fustrations on any nearby mage in the group.  People who do not want to be helpped do not deserve to be helped.

At least Anders has the excusse of actually being possesed by an immortal being of absolutes.


Five good people? I'm curious who.

Raiding the wine cellar? Really? he's living in the house. Don't recall gambling. Point for venting frustration.

But I would reply really the same thing I did before. It's difficult to understand psychological pain and difficulty unless you've been through it yourself. I'm not saying his actions are okay, but I'm saying I can empathize.

Like Jack in ME2.

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I hate monkeys. They throw up and eat their vomit, poop and throw their turds at you, masturbate in front of the whole world (I remember being at a zoo years ago and this baboon was just playing with his...well, yeah...). They're sick creatures, man.


Perfect! They'll fit right in.

Don't tell me you don't want "throw poop" as a special attack.

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Fenris is one of the coolest characters in the franchise. I wouldn't mind there being more characters like him, though his voice actor contributes a lot to his coolness.

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Totally off topic and unhelpful but I'm wondering how long it will be until someone makes a thread called "Please, no characters."

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Melrache wrote...

Fenris is one of the coolest characters in the franchise. I wouldn't mind there being more characters like him, though his voice actor contributes a lot to his coolness.

DAT VOICE @.@ The voice actor even does one of the voices for your character in Orgins. I squeed when I heard it, couldn't help myself xD 

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I liked Fenris. He was my go to guy. I want to know if any of you had been treated they way he had for his whole life if you would just be able to let it go. He was tortured and abused beyond belief. Sometimes you never get over something. And in the end if you romance him and you're a mage he still stays with you even though he doesn't agree.

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Perfect! They'll fit right in.

Don't tell me you don't want "throw poop" as a special attack.


*facehoof*