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[Blueprotoss]

Grubas wrote...

Ohgodinheaven one does not simply argue with bluetoss. Its not possible. Hes got his opinion, and nothing you say will change it. Accept it. And ignore.

You can always argue opinion but you can't argue the facts, which means you shouldn't be here based on how your focus is on logic fallacies.

anorling wrote...
Don't forget that he also decides your opinion
In fact he knows your opinions better then you do yourself.

I don't decide what is opinion because its your call on what you think whether the facts disagree with you is your problem.

[Blueprotoss]

Lunch Box1912 wrote...

Bester76 wrote...

Whenever I hear that story of Casey and Mac locking themselves away in a room to write ME3's ending, I always think of this...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem

...and then realize that realistically, give a monkey a typewriter and you're going to get pages of garbage.....

The article I provided states the"Takyris” comments may or may not be true. Disregarding the "Takyris" article just play the game again, the difference between the writing, the story structure throughout the entirety of the game and the last ten minutes is not of the same ilk. It’s plain as night and day, basic fundamentals of writing vanish in the last ten minutes. 

Whether one buy’s what the monkeys are typing or not you can’t deny the breakdown of basic writing 101. Apparently Biowares monkey did not type enough to get the Shakespearean quality of ending that could live up to the rest of the game…. Maybe they should give him another banana and see what comes out next?

http://www.writersdi...f-novel-endings

To be fair everything isn't Shalespeare and everything that Shakespeare touched didn't turn to gold thus you shouldn't make expectations that can't be reached like most of  Romney's promises.  Its still ironic to see the hypocrisy here based on how writing itself its subjective and how the writing in ME3 didn't change that much from ME1 or ME2.  There are also huge differences when we're talking about video games and novels like with movies and comic books.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 12 octobre 2012 - 04:46 .

[Fades56]

IMO

I wouldn't say everyone having high expectations led to why the ending was received so poorly, it's not like Mass Effect has the biggest fan base or anything, but maybe because it was somewhat different then the games that preceded it, the Dues Ex like endings did not fit so well with this series, it just made it worse and then to add the small breath tease at the end of destroy and the stargazer scene, not exactly the most uplifting moments of the series and EC did nothing to help, but whatever sh*t like this happens.

[Dusen]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

No, I'm pretty sure the ending was poorly-received because it was awful.

This, because essentially every game is overhyped before release, yet you don't see the type of backlash that ME3 had.. . . and also, don't blame the fans for overhyping the game, Bioware is the sole one responsible for overhyping with all of their pre-release nonsense that didn't end up in the final game. 

Modifié par Dusen, 12 octobre 2012 - 05:12 .

[CronoDragoon]

arial wrote...

 The real reason the ending(s) were poorly recieved is quite simple.

since the day ME3 was anounced, people started speculating on what features it would have, how the story would progress, etc.

Gee, I wonder why they could have possibly speculated that the game would not have an A, B, or C ending. Or that the Rachni would have a huge effect on the ending.

Hm.

[LanceSolous13]

Blueprotoss wrote...

Grubas wrote...

Ohgodinheaven one does not simply argue with bluetoss. Its not possible. Hes got his opinion, and nothing you say will change it. Accept it. And ignore.

You can always argue opinion but you can't argue the facts, which means you shouldn't be here based on how your focus is on logic fallacies.

I don't decide what is opinion because its your call on what you think whether the facts disagree with you is your problem.

If everyone who didn't go by your definition of 'facts' just suddenly left the BSN, You'd be the only one on here.

[Blueprotoss]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

Grubas wrote...

Ohgodinheaven one does not simply argue with bluetoss. Its not possible. Hes got his opinion, and nothing you say will change it. Accept it. And ignore.

You can always argue opinion but you can't argue the facts, which means you shouldn't be here based on how your focus is on logic fallacies.

I don't decide what is opinion because its your call on what you think whether the facts disagree with you is your problem.

If everyone who didn't go by your definition of 'facts' just suddenly left the BSN, You'd be the only one on here.

I see ad hominems is still your defalt response.  If you were really an "expert" on the difference of fact and opinion then you would never be wrong while thats impossible since everyone isn't always right or wrong unless someone only uses facts to be right or opinion to be wrong.  Opinions are only wrong when you try to turn opinion into fact.

[Blueprotoss]

CronoDragoon wrote...

arial wrote...

 The real reason the ending(s) were poorly recieved is quite simple.

since the day ME3 was anounced, people started speculating on what features it would have, how the story would progress, etc.

Gee, I wonder why they could have possibly speculated that the game would not have an A, B, or C ending. Or that the Rachni would have a huge effect on the ending.

Hm.

To be fair ME3 didn't have ABC endings and the Rachni did have a huge effect.  Either way the Rachni were overshadowed by the Geth/Quarian conflict and the Genophage.

[Cashmoney007]

Blueprotoss wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

arial wrote...

 The real reason the ending(s) were poorly recieved is quite simple.

since the day ME3 was anounced, people started speculating on what features it would have, how the story would progress, etc.

Gee, I wonder why they could have possibly speculated that the game would not have an A, B, or C ending. Or that the Rachni would have a huge effect on the ending.

Hm.

To be fair ME3 didn't have ABC endings and the Rachni did have a huge effect.  Either way the Rachni were overshadowed by the Geth/Quarian conflict and the Genophage.

lol

[Grubas]

Bluetoss would also make a Uwe Boll movie look like a misunderstood Mona Lisa. Bluetoss tell me why Uwe Boll makes great movies, please? only real "facts" of course. 

he cant dictate you your opinion. hes harmless. just ignore. 

[Forsythia]

silentassassin264 wrote...

The real reason was that effing kid. If they had just had a booming voice say that you had to make a choice once you got up the elevator, it would have been so much better. Or just have anything except that kid to be the catalyst. It seriously makes no sense to use that kid.

This is my biggest gripe about the ending as well. Of all the avatars they could've chosen, they picked the cheeziest of them all: a whiny brat.

[Peranor]

Cashmoney007 wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

arial wrote...

 The real reason the ending(s) were poorly recieved is quite simple.

since the day ME3 was anounced, people started speculating on what features it would have, how the story would progress, etc.

Gee, I wonder why they could have possibly speculated that the game would not have an A, B, or C ending. Or that the Rachni would have a huge effect on the ending.

Hm.

To be fair ME3 didn't have ABC endings and the Rachni did have a huge effect.  Either way the Rachni were overshadowed by the Geth/Quarian conflict and the Genophage.

lol

but...but... The Rachni did have a huge effect! They like... you know? They did that thing that they mentioned that time.

[Peranor]

Blueprotoss wrote...

Grubas wrote...

Ohgodinheaven one does not simply argue with bluetoss. Its not possible. Hes got his opinion, and nothing you say will change it. Accept it. And ignore.

You can always argue opinion but you can't argue the facts, which means you shouldn't be here based on how your focus is on logic fallacies.

anorling wrote...
Don't forget that he also decides your opinion
In fact he knows your opinions better then you do yourself.

I don't decide what is opinion because its your call on what you think whether the facts disagree with you is your problem.

The problem is that you never present any "facts". Just your own delusional musings.
Also 99% of the time you act like a dim-witted, arrogant buffoon.

[LanceSolous13]

anorling wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

Grubas wrote...

Ohgodinheaven one does not simply argue with bluetoss. Its not possible. Hes got his opinion, and nothing you say will change it. Accept it. And ignore.

You can always argue opinion but you can't argue the facts, which means you shouldn't be here based on how your focus is on logic fallacies.

anorling wrote...
Don't forget that he also decides your opinion
In fact he knows your opinions better then you do yourself.

I don't decide what is opinion because its your call on what you think whether the facts disagree with you is your problem.

The problem is that you never present any "facts". Just your own delusional musings.
Also 99% of the time you act like a dim-witted, arrogant buffoon.

Will you marry me?

[Blueprotoss]

anorling wrote...

but...but... The Rachni did have a huge effect! They like... you know? They did that thing that they mentioned that time.

There's a good amounts of differences that appear when you save the Rachni in ME1 and ME3 compared to just saving her in ME1 or ME3.

anorling wrote...

The problem is that you never present any "facts". Just your own delusional musings.
Also 99% of the time you act like a dim-witted, arrogant buffoon.

Again I don't decide what is opinion because its your call on what you think whether the facts disagree with you is your problem.  I love hearing the irony here based on how the "dim-witted" and "arrogant boffoons" resort to ad hominems or any other logical fallacy when there's a discussion of facts and logic is usually based around the facts.  If you can't take the heat then step out of the oven.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 12 octobre 2012 - 04:09 .

[redcarpet26]

I didn't like it because I ended up having to sacrifice myself or let the cycle continue. I was hoping for a chance to get a perfect happy package Shepard lives ending (and no the breathe scene was not good enough, I had to sacrifice EDI and Geth to get it), like at the end of ME2, even if it was a lot more work. I won't apologize for wanting a happy and not bittersweet ending.

[Blueprotoss]

redcarpet26 wrote...

I didn't like it because I ended up having to sacrifice myself or let the cycle continue. I was hoping for a chance to get a perfect happy package Shepard lives ending (and no the breathe scene was not good enough, I had to sacrifice EDI and Geth to get it), like at the end of ME2, even if it was a lot more work. I won't apologize for wanting a happy and not bittersweet ending.

I don't personally agree with you since ME has been bittersweet throughout the series, but I do have a lot of respect for you based on how reasonable you're being.

[Fixers0]

 I wouldn't even dare to suggest that it might have something to do with the quality of the writing.

[The Spamming Troll]

Blueprotoss wrote...

anorling wrote...

but...but... The Rachni did have a huge effect! They like... you know? They did that thing that they mentioned that time.

There's a good amounts of differences that appear when you save the Rachni in ME1 and ME3 compared to just saving her in ME1 or ME3.

anorling wrote...

The problem is that you never present any "facts". Just your own delusional musings.
Also 99% of the time you act like a dim-witted, arrogant buffoon.

Again I don't decide what is opinion because its your call on what you think whether the facts disagree with you is your problem.  I love hearing the irony here based on how the "dim-witted" and "arrogant boffoons" resort to ad hominems or any other logical fallacy when there's a discussion of facts and logic is usually based around the facts.  If you can't take the heat then step out of the oven.

hey you used "ad hominem" again.

you love that word.

you should marry it.

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 12 octobre 2012 - 07:28 .

[The Spamming Troll]

Blueprotoss wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

Grubas wrote...

Ohgodinheaven one does not simply argue with bluetoss. Its not possible. Hes got his opinion, and nothing you say will change it. Accept it. And ignore.

You can always argue opinion but you can't argue the facts, which means you shouldn't be here based on how your focus is on logic fallacies.

I don't decide what is opinion because its your call on what you think whether the facts disagree with you is your problem.

If everyone who didn't go by your definition of 'facts' just suddenly left the BSN, You'd be the only one on here.

I see ad hominems is still your defalt response.  If you were really an "expert" on the difference of fact and opinion then you would never be wrong while thats impossible since everyone isn't always right or wrong unless someone only uses facts to be right or opinion to be wrong.  Opinions are only wrong when you try to turn opinion into fact.

you used it here too.

oh man. youve got a thing for calling things ad hominems brother!

[o Ventus]

You sure the endings weren't poorly received because they were terrible?

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

o Ventus wrote...

You sure the endings weren't poorly received because they were terrible?

Surely you must be joking!

You just have to look at the incredible depth that was Thane, Miranda, and Harbinger's involvment with the plot!

That tells you all you need to know about the quality of Mass Effect 3's storytelling.

[Blueprotoss]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

hey you used "ad hominem" again.

you love that word.

you should marry it.

The Spamming Troll wrote...

you used it here too.

oh man. youve got a thing for calling things ad hominems brother!

I see you aren't a fan of logic, which isn't a surprise since deflection is your game.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 13 octobre 2012 - 05:50 .

[o Ventus]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

You sure the endings weren't poorly received because they were terrible?

Surely you must be joking!

You just have to look at the incredible depth that was Thane, Miranda, and Harbinger's involvment with the plot!

That tells you all you need to know about the quality of Mass Effect 3's storytelling.

Oh, right.

But don't forget the Earth Intro too.

[Blueprotoss]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Surely you must be joking!

You just have to look at the incredible depth that was Thane, Miranda, and Harbinger's involvment with the plot!

That tells you all you need to know about the quality of Mass Effect 3's storytelling.

Writing is subjective by nature while Thane, Marinda, and Harbinger like most ME2 characters aren't important to ME3's plot because ME1 had the majority of ME's important charcters.

o Ventus wrote...

Oh, right.

But don't forget the Earth Intro too.

Everyone can't get everything that they want whether its with ME1, ME2, and/or ME3.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 13 octobre 2012 - 05:54 .