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[Cashmoney007]

GT Zazzerka wrote...

Cashmoney007 wrote...

2. It doesn't matter if it is an arguement or a debate because you still spelled some words wrong. 

No idea what this argument is about, I just felt like pointing out the irony.

You are not missing anything.  

[Cashmoney007]

ME1 & ME2>ME3

I just had to type that.

Modifié par Cashmoney007, 16 octobre 2012 - 04:17 .

[The Spamming Troll]

wantedman dan wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Mac Walters is a talentless hack who fancies himself an artist when he has nothing to his name outside of Bioware.

He's been piggybacking off of his friendship with Casey and the mutual arrogance and pretentiousness of both is what gave us this...thing that passes itself off as a literary device.

This is a good example of a strawman because Mac got overwhelming praise in ME1 and ME2 for his work, but some would rather rush to start a mindless witch hunt since they had way too high expectations on ME3.

Actually no, that would be an example of ad hominem.

are you telling me blueprotos forgot to call someone out on ad homoniming????

[Cashmoney007]

[quote]Foolsfolly wrote...

While there is no completely positive ending with no draw backs that doesn't make those endings invalid. The problem really lies with the Catalyst and how those choices were presented. Which ending you prefer is up to personal bias and how you're role-playing the Commander.
[/quote][/quote]

I agree that the Catalyst was not presented well with the choices Shepard got in the game.  But I personally didn't see a reason why Shepard needed to listen to a ghost kid.   Shepard's goal should have always been to just blow up the reapers even if he died doing it.  In my opinion, I think Bioware should have gotten rid of every ending but destroy and put in the some other endings so that the fans have much better choices in the game.  But there is more dlc coming out for this game so maybe this game will get a lot better for the fans that still can't replay the game.

Modifié par Cashmoney007, 16 octobre 2012 - 07:17 .

[Cashmoney007]

GT Zazzerka wrote...

Cashmoney007 wrote...

2. It doesn't matter if it is an arguement or a debate because you still spelled some words wrong. 

No idea what this argument is about, I just felt like pointing out the irony.

It is weird because people spell that word different ways.  But I felt the spelling was a mistake so I fixed it.

Modifié par Cashmoney007, 16 octobre 2012 - 11:26 .

[Cashmoney007]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Mac Walters is a talentless hack who fancies himself an artist when he has nothing to his name outside of Bioware.

He's been piggybacking off of his friendship with Casey and the mutual arrogance and pretentiousness of both is what gave us this...thing that passes itself off as a literary device.

This is a good example of a strawman because Mac got overwhelming praise in ME1 and ME2 for his work, but some would rather rush to start a mindless witch hunt since they had way too high expectations on ME3.

Actually no, that would be an example of ad hominem.

are you telling me blueprotos forgot to call someone out on ad homoniming????

Alert! Alert!

[Cakefirsto]

I had a horrible dream about Mass Effect 3, actually it wasn't a dream...

[GeoGirl2008]

arial wrote...

 The real reason the ending(s) were poorly recieved is quite simple.

since the day ME3 was anounced, people started speculating on what features it would have, how the story would progress, etc.

It came to the state where No game could realisticly match what fans expected.

When the game finally came out, and it could not live up to what people were sure it would be, people looked for every possible reason to blame for their dissatisfaction.

Have to disagree with you there. While we the fans probably did hype it a bit based on the awesome quality of the previous games, I think the most damage was done by comments made by Casey Hudson and Mac Walters.  I am not bashing them in any way, but they did make statements during the development and pre-release period saying that all of the "previous decisions would matter", that there would be "wildly different endings", players wouldn't be forced into "an A B C choice", everything would make sense according to the lore and wouldn't just be "Space Magic". 

While most of the previous decisions were brought up in some way during the game, they didn't have a huge impact on the end of the game, and we definitely did get choice A B C and space magic. These comments made during interviews that were released to the fans did the most damage in my opinion because they were what hyped the game, and got fans super excited, pushing the expectations to hights that the finished product did not live up to. 

Makes me wonder if they are completely finished with they game though. Why make those statements and then have the end be totally what they said it wouldn't be. I know they said that they had planned no further ending content, but that was a few months ago, maybe they are planning some now?

[Blueprotoss]

wantedman dan wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Mac Walters is a talentless hack who fancies himself an artist when he has nothing to his name outside of Bioware.

He's been piggybacking off of his friendship with Casey and the mutual arrogance and pretentiousness of both is what gave us this...thing that passes itself off as a literary device.

This is a good example of a strawman because Mac got overwhelming praise in ME1 and ME2 for his work, but some would rather rush to start a mindless witch hunt since they had way too high expectations on ME3.

Actually no, that would be an example of ad hominem.

You could also use an ad hominem based on how it is a personal attack along with a extremely negative twist hence I originally said a strawman.

[Blueprotoss]

ld1449 wrote...

Mac got praise? Where?

You like to talk out of your ass a lot the first time mac walters was even mentioned was after arrival sucked and people were wondering who wrote it. ME1 and 2, Drew had the spotlight for the most part.

The only reason anyone ever heard of him writting Garrus and Wrex was because they asked what he did on the project to get the lead writing position here.

Ergo, before ME3, the man was nothing, after ME3, he's less than nothing.

Again this is still an example of a strawman based on how Mac a huge amount of praise in ME1 and ME2 based mainly on Garrus.  You forget that most of the spotlight was focused on the team as a whole not on an individual basis until the extreme nippicking that occured with ME3.  Btw nobody still knows how much Drew wrote for ME3 since he left after ME2 while ME3 was already in production and developement when ME2 was green lighted.

ld1449 wrote...

The woman who wrote twilight is making millions. Is She a good writer?

Also, I've yet to see any of this praise you speak of.

Show me one thread or hell, any one place on the internet where anyone has ever said something even remotely close to "Mac walters is very good at his job."

Never said that woman was a good writer along with J K Rowling, but there will always be people that hate or love them based on the subjectiveness that writing is.  The Internet has always been filled with biased extremely negative rage and its nothing new that most are just witch hunts caused by individuals that wouldn't harm a fly in the real world.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 16 octobre 2012 - 07:02 .

[The Night Mammoth]

Drew was fairly well known as the lead writer, Casey as the producer, no one else had any sort of profile with the fanbase, from what I remember.

Well, until now.

I definitely don't remember Walters receiving any sort of praise from the fans.

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 16 octobre 2012 - 07:06 .

[Blueprotoss]

Cashmoney007 wrote...

1. How am I getting emotional when I don't even use caps?

People get angry without using caps lock.

Cashmoney007 wrote...

2. It doesn't matter if it is an argument or a debate because you still spelled some words wrong and should fix your mistakes in some of your posts.

If this was a discussion on grammar then you would have lost anyways because you don't practice what you preach and grammar isn't the topic of this thread.

Cashmoney007 wrote...

3.  I know lol is not a word.  It just made me laugh when I typed that comment before.

But it is not going to matter what I think because you have all the answers right?  Can you next tell me why the earth was created?  

I can't wait till you have more comments because they always give me a good laugh.

I love the irony here based on this is filled with logic fallacies and opinion.

[Blueprotoss]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Drew was fairly well known as the lead writer, Casey as the producer, no one else had any sort of profile with the fanbase, from what I remember.

Well, until now.

I definitely don't remember Walters receiving any sort of praise from the fans.

Drew and Casey were the most recognizable out of the Bioware team, but a lot of the ME team did appear at a good amount of conventions.  Either way those two weren't as famous as the Doctors.

[The Night Mammoth]

Blueprotoss wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Drew was fairly well known as the lead writer, Casey as the producer, no one else had any sort of profile with the fanbase, from what I remember.

Well, until now.

I definitely don't remember Walters receiving any sort of praise from the fans.

Drew and Casey were the most recognizable out of the Bioware team, but a lot of the ME team did appear at a good amount of conventions.  Either way those two weren't as famous as the Doctors.

Sure, all I'm saying is that there's wasn't a whole lot of praise for Walters to 'balance' or counteract all the dislike he recieves now. 

Not saying its justified, just to be clear. 

[shodiswe]

The london mission wasn't that good, that probablt increased my expectations for the storytelling... If the mission is bad then the story has to get better eventualy... But it didn't get better.

It would probably have been an ok Quake or doom mission and ending.. But it's not a proper Mass Effect ending, nor is the end mission Mass Effect like, it's more like a gamey hordemode.... Gamey because thats what they didn't want, still it became a hodemode with far too few storyelements playing out along the way.

[Blueprotoss]

shodiswe wrote...

The london mission wasn't that good, that probablt increased my expectations for the storytelling... If the mission is bad then the story has to get better eventualy... But it didn't get better.

It would probably have been an ok Quake or doom mission and ending.. But it's not a proper Mass Effect ending, nor is the end mission Mass Effect like, it's more like a gamey hordemode.... Gamey because thats what they didn't want, still it became a hodemode with far too few storyelements playing out along the way.

To be fair you could say this about Retaking the Citadel in ME1 and the Suicide Mission in ME2 by going through the different areas with waves of enemies.  Another thing is that the Reapers have mostly taken control of Earth and by default you would be fighting more enemies then usual.  Its nothing new to face more enemies when you attack the enemy's base even when that base was previously controlled by them.

[Cashmoney007]

Blueprotoss wrote...


If this was a discussion on grammar then you would have lost anyways because you don't practice what you preach and grammar isn't the topic of this thread.

It is not the topic.  But I was pointing that out because you act like you know everything.  I haven't lost anything because I actually go back and fix my spelling mistakes which is what I was talking about.  I usually don't care about those things.  I personally would have liked to have a good debate or argument with you.  But you know everything about everything so there is no point.  

I have nothing more to say about this.....

[Blueprotoss]

Arcian wrote...

I'm starting to think Blueprotoss IS Mac Walters.

Insulting people and trying to start witch hunts won't work.  If I was Mac then BSN would be a lot less ignorant and immature.

[Blueprotoss]

Cashmoney007 wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...


If this was a discussion on grammar then you would have lost anyways because you don't practice what you preach and grammar isn't the topic of this thread.

It is not the topic.  But I was pointing that out because you act like you know everything.  I haven't lost anything because I actually go back and fix my spelling mistakes which is what I was talking about.  I usually don't care about those things.  I personally would have liked to have a good debate or argument with you.  But you know everything about everything so there is no point.  

I have nothing more to say about this.....

This is ironic since I never said I knew everything yet you act as if you do know everything.  If you can't seperate opinion from fact or fact from opinion then you shouldn't be talking about facts.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Blueprotoss wrote...

Arcian wrote...

I'm starting to think Blueprotoss IS Mac Walters.

Insulting people and trying to start witch hunts won't work.  If I was Mac then BSN would be a lot less ignorant and immature.

Nah I'm pretty sure the level of ingorance wouldn't change.

Mind you I base that on the quality of Mac's writing.

[The Night Mammoth]

'Missing the point' should be in there too.

[Spectre Impersonator]

 Nah, that's not it.

[Blueprotoss]

Paulomedi wrote...

Blueprotoss random quote generator:

To be fair, ...logical fallacies... because ...strawmen..., ...Ad hominen... ironic... opinions.

Fill the blanks!

i see logic isn't your friend and if you really want to "play" that game then its easy to insult people instead of talking about the actual topic.

The Night Mammoth wrote...

'Missing the point' should be in there too.

I see you did miss the point and its not surprising.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 21 octobre 2012 - 04:59 .