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1. I don't think it's possible to complain about a game that didn't exist at the time LOL. Alright, seriously, there IS a difference between fans who gripe because they care, and fans who gripe because they like to. Just because there are SOME people who gripe for the heck of it, doesn't mean that ALL of them are like that. In fact, most people gripe because they DO love a game series, and don't want it to die. And fan ideas and/or gripes lead to great DLCs. We wanted to know what happened to Morrigan in DA:O, and we got the Which Hun DLC. We wanted to get back with Liara in ME2, and we got the "Shadow Broker" DLC. We wanted vehicle exploration/missions in ME2, we got the Hammerhead in the "Firewalker" and "Overlord" DLC's. We wanted the endings of ME3 to actually MAKE SOME SENSE, and we got the Extended Cut DLC. We wanted to re-take Omega in ME3, and we're getting the "Omega" DLC next month. We wanted to see Collectors again after seeing them in "From Ashes," and we get them as Multiplayer enemies in the "Retaliation" Multiplayer DLC. We wanted to be a Volus Biotic God, we get the Volus Adept as a MP class, and a Volus Vanguard coming out soon, along with the Volus Engineer and Sentinel. We wanted protheans, and we got Javik and "From Ashes."
You CAN'T condemn ALL because of a FEW.

Some people will always comtplain whether its the Mako throughout the series, the inventory in ME1, the gameplay in ME2, or the Muliplayer in ME3.   Small uproars are nothing new with video game Developers especially when Dark Souls on the PC, Diablo 3, Zelda: Skyward Sword, RE: ORC, Street Fighter x Tekken, Assassin's Creed 3, the Tomb Raider reboot, Hitman: Absolution, Halo 4, Black Ops 2, and RE6 have witnessed while most of them were far bigger then ME's rage as a series.

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2. First off, you are one to talk, Mr "Star Wars is seperate galaxies."
Second, The fans wanted the endings of 3 to BE like 1 & 2 combined. Where it's bittersweet because you made a sacrifice in order to win. Where you KNOW you can't save everyone. It feels like the story was made painfully liner for the sake of plot convenience. I don't necessaraly HATE the Plot of the Crucible, but the excicution needed work. If the dark energy theory could have been worked INTO that, somehow, like say, have it be that the Reapers harvest is every 50,000 years exactally because that's when the dark energy levels are highest, and that they feed on that. Then, the Crucible actually feeds on the massed concentrations of dark energy across the galaxy to kill the Reapers. Similar to what happens already, but the difference. NO starchild Catalyst. THAT'S one thing they could have done. Pont is, it feels like the story was made more and more linear in favor of inproving the combat mechanics.

Insults still aren't effective and most of the ME3 hate is personal taste like in most games like the previous ME installments.  If ME3 had plot issues then some people would have pointed out plot issues in ME1 and ME2 way before ME3.

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Third, Again I say, I NEVER saw anyone complain about ME1 & 2's endings like I did ME3s. ME1 was good, because choices like that, one blatently good, the other evil, are something we are used to seeing from BioWare, if you played their RPG's, like Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic.  And I don't recall anyone complaining that loudly about the abality to SAVE EVERYONE on the Normandy from dying during the Suicide Mission. After great, envoking endings like those, combined with what we got in Dragon Age: Origens, Everyone expected them to take all the good things that made those endings great, and use them to create ME3s ending. Not throw all that made the endings to their previous games good out, and make it look like they stole pages from the ending of the Deus Ex series.

If you really haven't seen any ME1 and ME2 rage then you aren't looking that hard.  You do realize that most players don't care about a specific character that dies because most of the character deaths are based on the player's decisions and to complain about endings is a cop out for way too high expectations.

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3. Yes, the games CAN be played stand-alone, but they are not MEANT to be. Why add the abality to carry over save-files if that's not how they are mant to work? That's the point of MAKING a series with that function. To carry over from the last entry to the next.
And you criticize OTHERS, saying they contridict themselves?

If they were really meant not to be stand-alone games then you would be required to play through all the games before playing the current installment, which this rarely happens with games even with RPGs like ME, the Elder Scrolls, Fallout, .hack, Persona, and Final Fantasy to name a few.

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4. I did play KotOR, and I SAW the epilouge for an ending where you ACTUALLY GOT SOME DAMN CLOSURE for your character.  Until the release of The Old Republic's "Foundry" mission for the sith.
They HAD an ending where as a sith, you could have one final act of redemption for a female character, by having Carth arrive aboard the Star Forge and talk the PC back to the light by professing his love for her. You could accept, allowing them to die aboard the Star Forge as it falls into it's sun, it's orbital stabilizers shut down. But that was removed, as it was "too bittersweet."

If you really did then you would know the differences in Star Wars, which you don't know.

silverexile17s wrote...

And the way Jade Empire ended WAS better for ME3. The endings for THAT were TRUELY diverse, as you got different ones not only for all your choices, but for whoever your romance option was. The endings to Jade Empire -a great blend of triumphent and bittersweet options- was what ME3 SHOULD have taken notes from. Not Deus Ex.

Opinion is opinion even when you're angry over spilt milk when you're talking about ME3.  You're also forgetting two factors here that Jade Empire is only one game and ME isn't DE.

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silverexile17s wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

BaladasDemnevanni wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

Yet you're here being completely off-topic and inslting someone, which means you aren't practicing what you preach about "trolls" since you are in actuality a "troll" yourself.  I'm no "troll" but when someone pulls the "troll" card then they have already lost the discussion and don't care what emotion gets released.


You misunderstand. My post was not intended for your benefit. It was to warn people who, as luck would have it, have never had the displeasure of reading your posts in the past. I think it's important that they know what they're getting themselves into. I lose nothing.

Insulting people still won't work.

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I could have used that head's up a while ago. 
It's hard to take Blueprotoss' posts seriously when he keeps saying that Star Wars is several galaxies. He ACTUALLY said that KotOR, Republic Commando and The Force Unleashed are all is seperate Galaxies across the Star Wars universe, not one galaxy over several time periods. 
HOW can he not know that's wrong?!

How is that when opinion isn't fact and trying to force opinions into facts still isn't possible.

1&2. You are seriously one to talk. You are the one who always insults people by comparing them with your apperent love of strawmen. And the fact that you constantly try to force the idea that Star Wars is multiple galaxies will NOT make that into fact. The only strawman here has been, and still is, you.

Maybe you should do the research before jumping to conclsion then lashing out because you're doing the opposite of what you preach.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 30 octobre 2012 - 05:30 .


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silverexile17s wrote...

1. I never said anything about hate. Just dislike. Disliking them with valid reasons, and agreeing with the reasons of others, is no reason to crucify them at the stake like you do with everyone you don't agree with.

If it was just dislike then you wouldn't be that angry.

silverexile17s wrote...

2. Well, you never responded. And if you were reading that, you would know from the responce I got from Troxa that I was correct about the structure of Star Wars in that it is a single galaxy, whose lore is spread out across many time periods. Also, that there was general dread from how you tear into everybody. The disscussion I had with @Element Zero? THAT is how one does a disscussion. No name calling, No "Strawmen." Just a civil talk, in which one can properly see good points that BOTH parites have.
What "you" do is tear apart anyone else that has differing opinions, and chastize them for thinking differently then you. You are condesending to them and force them to reply in kind to you.

Troxa didn't provide anything for a discussion just like what you're still doing.

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Blue, do you proofread anything you type or do you just blurt it all out? I'm not even talking spelling here.

I see you're still not interested in the topic.

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I know. And he has the nerve to accuse everyone ELSE of cortridicting themselves?

How is that when you reallydon't know what he/she is referring to thus its bad to assume something like this.  If I did want to contradict myself then I would be deflecting the topic, which is what you're still doing.

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BP trolling another topic? SHOCK

Let me save you the time it takes you to respond

"Im not a troll and your a troll for calling me one blah blah"

To which I say: obvious troll is still obvious.

Modifié par Isichar, 30 octobre 2012 - 05:41 .


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BP trolling another topic? SHOCK

Let me save you the time it takes you to respond

"Im not a troll and your a troll for calling me one blah blah"

To which I say: obvious troll is still obvious.

I see you're not intrested in "facts" :lol:

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Greylycantrope wrote...

Isichar wrote...

BP trolling another topic? SHOCK

Let me save you the time it takes you to respond

"Im not a troll and your a troll for calling me one blah blah"

To which I say: obvious troll is still obvious.

I see you're not intrested in "facts" :lol:


To be fair, thats a strawman and you just contradicted yourself. :P

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The real reason was that effing kid. If they had just had a booming voice say that you had to make a choice once you got up the elevator, it would have been so much better. Or just have anything except that kid to be the catalyst. It seriously makes no sense to use that kid.

Yeah, seriously. Make it an AI like Vigil? You're golden. The kid made no sense unless IT was true.

OP, what you're saying is absolute nonsense. If anything, the devs tried too hard because they THOUGHT no one could ever be satisfied. If they'd stuck with their original ideas, built upon all the foreshadowing and themes of the previous two titles, it would've been awesome in most people's eyes.

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The 3 choices should be a freebie choice like in ME1 and ME2, after the real reveal and conclusion to the plot. But gameplaywise,. ... there was nothing intresting .... despite the potential buildup. Thats why people got disappointed.

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Blueprotoss wrote...

silverexile17s wrote...

1. I don't think it's possible to complain about a game that didn't exist at the time LOL. Alright, seriously, there IS a difference between fans who gripe because they care, and fans who gripe because they like to. Just because there are SOME people who gripe for the heck of it, doesn't mean that ALL of them are like that. In fact, most people gripe because they DO love a game series, and don't want it to die. And fan ideas and/or gripes lead to great DLCs. We wanted to know what happened to Morrigan in DA:O, and we got the Which Hun DLC. We wanted to get back with Liara in ME2, and we got the "Shadow Broker" DLC. We wanted vehicle exploration/missions in ME2, we got the Hammerhead in the "Firewalker" and "Overlord" DLC's. We wanted the endings of ME3 to actually MAKE SOME SENSE, and we got the Extended Cut DLC. We wanted to re-take Omega in ME3, and we're getting the "Omega" DLC next month. We wanted to see Collectors again after seeing them in "From Ashes," and we get them as Multiplayer enemies in the "Retaliation" Multiplayer DLC. We wanted to be a Volus Biotic God, we get the Volus Adept as a MP class, and a Volus Vanguard coming out soon, along with the Volus Engineer and Sentinel. We wanted protheans, and we got Javik and "From Ashes."
You CAN'T condemn ALL because of a FEW.

Some people will always comtplain whether its the Mako throughout the series, the inventory in ME1, the gameplay in ME2, or the Muliplayer in ME3.   Small uproars are nothing new with video game Developers especially when Dark Souls on the PC, Diablo 3, Zelda: Skyward Sword, RE: ORC, Street Fighter x Tekken, Assassin's Creed 3, the Tomb Raider reboot, Hitman: Absolution, Halo 4, Black Ops 2, and RE6 have witnessed while most of them were far bigger then ME's rage as a series.

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2. First off, you are one to talk, Mr "Star Wars is seperate galaxies."
Second, The fans wanted the endings of 3 to BE like 1 & 2 combined. Where it's bittersweet because you made a sacrifice in order to win. Where you KNOW you can't save everyone. It feels like the story was made painfully liner for the sake of plot convenience. I don't necessaraly HATE the Plot of the Crucible, but the excicution needed work. If the dark energy theory could have been worked INTO that, somehow, like say, have it be that the Reapers harvest is every 50,000 years exactally because that's when the dark energy levels are highest, and that they feed on that. Then, the Crucible actually feeds on the massed concentrations of dark energy across the galaxy to kill the Reapers. Similar to what happens already, but the difference. NO starchild Catalyst. THAT'S one thing they could have done. Pont is, it feels like the story was made more and more linear in favor of inproving the combat mechanics.

Insults still aren't effective and most of the ME3 hate is personal taste like in most games like the previous ME installments.  If ME3 had plot issues then some people would have pointed out plot issues in ME1 and ME2 way before ME3.

silverexile17s wrote...

Third, Again I say, I NEVER saw anyone complain about ME1 & 2's endings like I did ME3s. ME1 was good, because choices like that, one blatently good, the other evil, are something we are used to seeing from BioWare, if you played their RPG's, like Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic.  And I don't recall anyone complaining that loudly about the abality to SAVE EVERYONE on the Normandy from dying during the Suicide Mission. After great, envoking endings like those, combined with what we got in Dragon Age: Origens, Everyone expected them to take all the good things that made those endings great, and use them to create ME3s ending. Not throw all that made the endings to their previous games good out, and make it look like they stole pages from the ending of the Deus Ex series.

If you really haven't seen any ME1 and ME2 rage then you aren't looking that hard.  You do realize that most players don't care about a specific character that dies because most of the character deaths are based on the player's decisions and to complain about endings is a cop out for way too high expectations.

silverexile17s wrote...

3. Yes, the games CAN be played stand-alone, but they are not MEANT to be. Why add the abality to carry over save-files if that's not how they are mant to work? That's the point of MAKING a series with that function. To carry over from the last entry to the next.
And you criticize OTHERS, saying they contridict themselves?

If they were really meant not to be stand-alone games then you would be required to play through all the games before playing the current installment, which this rarely happens with games even with RPGs like ME, the Elder Scrolls, Fallout, .hack, Persona, and Final Fantasy to name a few.

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4. I did play KotOR, and I SAW the epilouge for an ending where you ACTUALLY GOT SOME DAMN CLOSURE for your character.  Until the release of The Old Republic's "Foundry" mission for the sith.
They HAD an ending where as a sith, you could have one final act of redemption for a female character, by having Carth arrive aboard the Star Forge and talk the PC back to the light by professing his love for her. You could accept, allowing them to die aboard the Star Forge as it falls into it's sun, it's orbital stabilizers shut down. But that was removed, as it was "too bittersweet."

If you really did then you would know the differences in Star Wars, which you don't know.

silverexile17s wrote...

And the way Jade Empire ended WAS better for ME3. The endings for THAT were TRUELY diverse, as you got different ones not only for all your choices, but for whoever your romance option was. The endings to Jade Empire -a great blend of triumphent and bittersweet options- was what ME3 SHOULD have taken notes from. Not Deus Ex.

Opinion is opinion even when you're angry over spilt milk when you're talking about ME3.  You're also forgetting two factors here that Jade Empire is only one game and ME isn't DE.


1. But it's for a reason. It's a little something called "fan feedback" If fans said NOTHING about any flaws in a game, I think that would be worse. Many improvements and Great DLC addation come from fan requests, and many patches come from the complaints of things that were wrong. Mass Effect is a series that has garnered more attention then any series in recent history. I NEVER saw this kind of blow-up on so many sites as I did for this.

2. First off, you insult people first. You cast the first stone a long time ago with everyone here. Second, the Crucible was NOT a knowen part of the plot during ME1 and ME2. You can't complain about a plot detail you DON'T KNOW ABOUT. The only reference we had was Liara's comment about how the old SHadow Broker was researching the Protheans, and thought that there was more to their plans then just the Conduit on Ilos, and the warnings in the beacons. Everyone LOVED the twist with Saren and Sovergien. And the revalation between the prothans and the collectors was a favorate part of ME2. n fact, as far as I know,  The few complaints about ME3s plot line was only that the story felt a bit too liner. It was only the ENDING'S  that garnered that hate that you reference. But that's because compared to the REST of the plot throughout the three games, it felt like a rip-off of Deus Ex. EC made them TOLRIBLE, but they're STILL nothing special.

3. ...You DO realize that attachment to those characters, and their fates, was half the reason the demands that the EC was formed from, even happened, right? The care for these characters was one of the driving reasons for wanting the EC in the first place, and to say no one cares about those characters is the OPPOSATE of what the game's creators intended. Caring about these characters is one of the game's core elements, one of the things that made people love this series, and it's disrespectful to them, and the game itself, to say that it doesn't matter.

4. I don't recall them being AVERTISED with having save-file transfers. Come on, those are BUILT to be picked up as stand alone. Final Fantasy in particular. A game series that HAS save-file transfer kinda implies that you're SUPPOSED to import your changes into the next game along in the series.

5. Ugg, if you think Star Wars is multiple galaxies because people call it the "Satr Wars Universe,"  you need to know that's NOT the case. "Star Wars Universe" is just the title they give for the collective LORE in Star Wars. People say the "Star TREK Universe" too, when they never leave the Milky Way, or the MARVEL and DC Universe, when near EVERYTHING takes place on Earth.
Star Wars is a SINGLE galaxiy, whose major events are broken up into seperate time periods. I played KotOR, where it said that things like "War has broken out across the GALAXY," not universe. Or "4,000 years before the rise of the Galactic Empire," indacating that KotOR was not happing in a SEPERATE galaxy, but in the past of the ONE SEEN IN THE MOVIES. Or the fact that the game Star Wars: Empire at War CLEARLY indacated that all the planets in KotOR are IN THE SAME GALAXY AS THE ONE IN THE MOVIE. Or the fact that when you get games like The Old Republic, or Empire at War, the map shows only.... You guessed it: ONE GALAXY!! The only thing different is that TIME PERIOD.

6. No, I'm not. I know that Jade Emipre is one game. The game's ENDINGS were my example. in that BioWare is capable of making driving, diverse endings, and making so many, and so many ways to unlock them, that you trully feel like it's worth replaying. ME3 doesn't HAVE that. You beat the game once, and few can find it in themselves to go back.  And I posted before the simalaraties between the Deus Ex series game endings, and what they did for ME3.  They are remarkably simalir. No, they aren't the same game, but they end the same way. In Deus Ex, that kind of ending is EXPECTED, because it matches the theme, atmosphere, and tone. 
With ME3, however, something like that as IT'S ending felt so out of place, it was like being slapped. Especally with how creative they'd been in the past with DA:O's ending options.
It's just fact. Anyone watching the two sid-by-side would have trouble denying the simalaraties between the choices and their consaquences.

Modifié par silverexile17s, 31 octobre 2012 - 04:38 .


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Blueprotoss wrote...

silverexile17s wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

BaladasDemnevanni wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

Yet you're here being completely off-topic and inslting someone, which means you aren't practicing what you preach about "trolls" since you are in actuality a "troll" yourself.  I'm no "troll" but when someone pulls the "troll" card then they have already lost the discussion and don't care what emotion gets released.


You misunderstand. My post was not intended for your benefit. It was to warn people who, as luck would have it, have never had the displeasure of reading your posts in the past. I think it's important that they know what they're getting themselves into. I lose nothing.

Insulting people still won't work.

silverexile17s wrote...

I could have used that head's up a while ago. 
It's hard to take Blueprotoss' posts seriously when he keeps saying that Star Wars is several galaxies. He ACTUALLY said that KotOR, Republic Commando and The Force Unleashed are all is seperate Galaxies across the Star Wars universe, not one galaxy over several time periods. 
HOW can he not know that's wrong?!

How is that when opinion isn't fact and trying to force opinions into facts still isn't possible.

1&2. You are seriously one to talk. You are the one who always insults people by comparing them with your apperent love of strawmen. And the fact that you constantly try to force the idea that Star Wars is multiple galaxies will NOT make that into fact. The only strawman here has been, and still is, you.

Maybe you should do the research before jumping to conclsion then lashing out because you're doing the opposite of what you preach.

...Yet another statement that examplifies what YOU are doing.
Honestly, this entire time, you have been making yourself look like the schoolyard bully at the sandbox. Everyone who has a differing opinion from yours is targeted by you and pummeled by reverse logic and mirrored pionts.
Just LET them have their opinions, because all your doing is making them pissed off at you for stupid reasons.

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Silver...why do you bother?

Its Blue-mother****ing-protoss. It'll go in one ear, out the other if he even reads half of what you wrote. I'm convinced he just skims at best since he hardly ever adresses the actual points people leave behind.

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Blueprotoss wrote...

silverexile17s wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

BaladasDemnevanni wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

Yet you're here being completely off-topic and inslting someone, which means you aren't practicing what you preach about "trolls" since you are in actuality a "troll" yourself.  I'm no "troll" but when someone pulls the "troll" card then they have already lost the discussion and don't care what emotion gets released.


You misunderstand. My post was not intended for your benefit. It was to warn people who, as luck would have it, have never had the displeasure of reading your posts in the past. I think it's important that they know what they're getting themselves into. I lose nothing.

Insulting people still won't work.

silverexile17s wrote...

I could have used that head's up a while ago. 
It's hard to take Blueprotoss' posts seriously when he keeps saying that Star Wars is several galaxies. He ACTUALLY said that KotOR, Republic Commando and The Force Unleashed are all is seperate Galaxies across the Star Wars universe, not one galaxy over several time periods. 
HOW can he not know that's wrong?!

How is that when opinion isn't fact and trying to force opinions into facts still isn't possible.

1&2. You are seriously one to talk. You are the one who always insults people by comparing them with your apperent love of strawmen. And the fact that you constantly try to force the idea that Star Wars is multiple galaxies will NOT make that into fact. The only strawman here has been, and still is, you.

Maybe you should do the research before jumping to conclsion then lashing out because you're doing the opposite of what you preach.

...Yet another comment that examplifies yourself.
Seriously, this entire time, you've been making yourself look like the schoolyard bully at the sandbox. You pummle anyone with differing opinions then you with reverse logic and mirrored points, using flawed facts that you are too pridefull to admit are wrong. I start to wonder if these arguements are even relevent to you anymore, and if this isn't just you putting everyone down because your pride got hurt.
You need to let these people have opinions and agree to DISAGREE if you can't ever come to a head, or all your going to do is gt them pissed off at you for such stupit reasons as a wounded pride.

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ld1449 wrote...

Silver...why do you bother?

Its Blue-mother****ing-protoss. It'll go in one ear, out the other if he even reads half of what you wrote. I'm convinced he just skims at best since he hardly ever adresses the actual points people leave behind.

I can't just let him put everyone down when the facts he's using are so flawed.

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silverexile17s wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Silver...why do you bother?

Its Blue-mother****ing-protoss. It'll go in one ear, out the other if he even reads half of what you wrote. I'm convinced he just skims at best since he hardly ever adresses the actual points people leave behind.

I can't just let him put everyone down when the facts he's using are so flawed.


I personally find it easy to ignore ignorance.

Don't have the time or patience to give a flying **** about what a proven moron thinks or says about XYZ thing.

But good luck. Every word out of his mouth  just makes him a bigger laughing stock amongst the BSN:P

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silverexile17s wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Silver...why do you bother?

Its Blue-mother****ing-protoss. It'll go in one ear, out the other if he even reads half of what you wrote. I'm convinced he just skims at best since he hardly ever adresses the actual points people leave behind.

I can't just let him put everyone down when the facts he's using are so flawed.

To be fair, no one takes him seriously.

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Blueprotoss wrote...

silverexile17s wrote...

1. I never said anything about hate. Just dislike. Disliking them with valid reasons, and agreeing with the reasons of others, is no reason to crucify them at the stake like you do with everyone you don't agree with.

If it was just dislike then you wouldn't be that angry.

silverexile17s wrote...

2. Well, you never responded. And if you were reading that, you would know from the responce I got from Troxa that I was correct about the structure of Star Wars in that it is a single galaxy, whose lore is spread out across many time periods. Also, that there was general dread from how you tear into everybody. The disscussion I had with @Element Zero? THAT is how one does a disscussion. No name calling, No "Strawmen." Just a civil talk, in which one can properly see good points that BOTH parites have.
What "you" do is tear apart anyone else that has differing opinions, and chastize them for thinking differently then you. You are condesending to them and force them to reply in kind to you.

Troxa didn't provide anything for a discussion just like what you're still doing.


1. That's the POINT. It's NOT anger, it's dissapointment. After the high notes that ME2 and DA:O ended on, people expected to get a satisfying conclusion to the story they crafted for years. There was no warning that the ending would be SO damn bittersweet, that it woul nearly KILL the desire to replay, or import. At this point, they DO dislike the ending, but it's mostly because they are dissapointed. Sure, there is still anger in there, but it's the minroaty at this point.

2.Troxa agree with me and said that Star Wars IS a class 3 civilazation. To recap:
We humans right now are type 0, multiple civilazations on one planet.
type 1 is planetary, where a united civilazation spans the entire planet.
type 2 is colonialism of outlaying star systems.
type 3 is galactic, where the civilazation is spread throughout the entire galaxy.
Type 4 is when a civilization controls other galaxies.
Star Wars is TYPE 3. Galactic. One Galaxy. NO OTHERS.

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ld1449 wrote...

silverexile17s wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Silver...why do you bother?

Its Blue-mother****ing-protoss. It'll go in one ear, out the other if he even reads half of what you wrote. I'm convinced he just skims at best since he hardly ever adresses the actual points people leave behind.

I can't just let him put everyone down when the facts he's using are so flawed.


I personally find it easy to ignore ignorance.

Don't have the time or patience to give a flying **** about what a proven moron thinks or says about XYZ thing.

But good luck. Every word out of his mouth  just makes him a bigger laughing stock amongst the BSN:P

Thanks for the vote of confidence.:lol:

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silverexile17s

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Blueprotoss wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Blue, do you proofread anything you type or do you just blurt it all out? I'm not even talking spelling here.

I see you're still not interested in the topic.

silverexile17s wrote...

I know. And he has the nerve to accuse everyone ELSE of cortridicting themselves?

How is that when you reallydon't know what he/she is referring to thus its bad to assume something like this.  If I did want to contradict myself then I would be deflecting the topic, which is what you're still doing.

1. ...What can you expect someone to say in the face of a topic riddled with factual holes? Everyone who's pointed them out in detail gets into a brawl with you, like me.

2. I've read postings from others. The general consensis is that you reflexively troll others by accuaing them of trolling. And that as time goes on, it becomes less and less about the topic, and more and more about beating down everyone else and proving a point to yourself.

Modifié par silverexile17s, 06 novembre 2012 - 08:02 .


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I loved this freaking game, all the way up until the last 45 minutes or so. I was so freaking high when I went to bed the first night after playing Act 1 and finishing the Citadel takeover mission. Combine that with the tense Tuchanka missions (the bomb, curing the Genophage), Sur kesh, and Mars, and Act 1 of this game is one of if not the best Act in any video game, ever.

Act 2 was good but nowhere near as long and ended with taking down that damn Reaper on Rannoch.

Act 3 is where it kinda started going downhill, with Liara whining the whole time on Thessia and getting your ass kicked by plot armor... Horizon was intense as was Cerberus HQ. Then when you get to Earth the outlook is bleak(as it should be).

Then the ending happens. Pretty sad when I have to get up and walk out of the room as the ending plays.

Modifié par twisty77, 30 octobre 2012 - 07:44 .


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twisty77 wrote...

I loved this freaking game, all the way up until the last 45 minutes or so. I was so freaking high when I went to bed the first night after playing Act 1 and finishing the Citadel takeover mission. Combine that with the tense Tuchanka missions (the bomb, curing the Genophage), Sur kesh, and Mars, and Act 1 of this game is one of if not the best Act in any video game, ever.

Act 2 was good but nowhere near as long and ended with taking down that damn Reaper on Rannoch.

Act 3 is where it kinda started going downhill, with Liara whining the whole time on Thessia and getting your ass kicked by plot armor... Horizon was intense as was Cerberus HQ. Then when you get to Earth the outlook is bleak(as it should be).

Then the ending happens. Pretty sad when I have to get up and walk out of the room as the ending plays.

I remember just staring at the screen and saying:   ".........That's IT?!"
Why the hell did I get so excited for this game if THIS is all I get?
EC lessens the pain, but it's still to bittersweet to play again.
BioWare is still feeling the pain. They haven't let themselves be interviewed again since the panel regarding the EC. And then the announcement of this new game.
It seems the series is dying. They BETTER pull something outta their ass, or the series will be DOA. I HOPE that this new game can fix the damage to both the Series' and BioWare's reputation.
If not.... well, I'll cross that bridge if I come to it.

Modifié par silverexile17s, 31 octobre 2012 - 04:46 .


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silverexile17s wrote...

I remember just staring at the screen and saying:   ".........That's IT?!"
Why the hell did I get so excited for this game if THIS is all I get?


I second this.

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MassEffectFShep wrote...

silverexile17s wrote...

I remember just staring at the screen and saying:   ".........That's IT?!"
Why the hell did I get so excited for this game if THIS is all I get?


I second this.


Thirded.

To see it end like that, I'm left wondering "If this is all there is to look forward to, then what is the point?"  

I can't believe they let a trilogy, an entire franchise, crash and burn like that.  

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iakus wrote...

MassEffectFShep wrote..

silverexile17s wrote...
I remember just staring at the screen and saying:   ".........That's IT?!"
Why the hell did I get so excited for this game if THIS is all I get?

I second this.

Thirded.

To see it end like that, I'm left wondering "If this is all there is to look forward to, then what is the point?"  

I can't believe they let a trilogy, an entire franchise, crash and burn like that.  

I remember saying:  "You gotta be freakin kidding me.  This is their ending to the trilogy?"

Then I thought maybe I was missing something.  So I thought about it for a while, and I always came up with the same conclusion.  It's a dud, a flop.  They screwed up big time. 

I remember coming to the forums and browsing a bit to see what everyone else were thinking.  Practically every thread was "What in the **** is this Bioware?!!!!!!:D

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Not even close.