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[3DandBeyond]

Well, they have no respect for people I think, fans and all. They have lumped all of us into one category. I think every fan should be insulted including the pro-enders here as well. They don't come here to discuss anything with you either. They think we all just hate them and want to see them ruined or hurt. Most of us have never advocated anything of the kind, but we are all the same in their eyes whether we like or dislike the endings. I think it's telling when ambiguity is considered to be closure.

[Ithurael]

3DandBeyond wrote...

Well, they have no respect for people I think, fans and all. They have lumped all of us into one category. I think every fan should be insulted including the pro-enders here as well. They don't come here to discuss anything with you either. They think we all just hate them and want to see them ruined or hurt. Most of us have never advocated anything of the kind, but we are all the same in their eyes whether we like or dislike the endings. I think it's telling when ambiguity is considered to be closure.

Are you angry that Priestly locked your thread?

Don't be mad man. We all tried. The end is the end. We can only learn to enjoy what we have and either move on or stay.

Also, join the Lemon group...don't ask why - just do it:wizard::wizard:

[Luigitornado]

Yeah it was a mixture of that, and endings that were not fulfilling enough...and the people who just straight up hate the Catalyst stuff.

[3DandBeyond]

Ithurael wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

Well, they have no respect for people I think, fans and all. They have lumped all of us into one category. I think every fan should be insulted including the pro-enders here as well. They don't come here to discuss anything with you either. They think we all just hate them and want to see them ruined or hurt. Most of us have never advocated anything of the kind, but we are all the same in their eyes whether we like or dislike the endings. I think it's telling when ambiguity is considered to be closure.

Are you angry that Priestly locked your thread?

Don't be mad man. We all tried. The end is the end. We can only learn to enjoy what we have and either move on or stay.

Also, join the Lemon group...don't ask why - just do it:wizard::wizard:

Ha of course I'm a bit mad, but yes I know the end is the end.  I'm only sorry there could never have been a mature discussion ever.

Instead, they seem to want to appeal to those that want people held in concentration camps until they are synthesized, people who think the citadel will be a living being with the Shepard AI sending everyone email after control, and those who think that dead Shepards everywhere and lots of guns not used to beat the bad guys are fun.  GG.

Modifié par 3DandBeyond, 09 octobre 2012 - 03:14 .

[Maxster_]

Ithurael wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

Well, they have no respect for people I think, fans and all. They have lumped all of us into one category. I think every fan should be insulted including the pro-enders here as well. They don't come here to discuss anything with you either. They think we all just hate them and want to see them ruined or hurt. Most of us have never advocated anything of the kind, but we are all the same in their eyes whether we like or dislike the endings. I think it's telling when ambiguity is considered to be closure.

Are you angry that Priestly locked your thread?

Don't be mad man. We all tried. The end is the end. We can only learn to enjoy what we have and either move on or stay.

Also, join the Lemon group...don't ask why - just do it:wizard::wizard:

That was an benevolent act. Your understanding not required, obedience is.

P.S. What's Lemon group?

[Ithurael]

Maxster_ wrote...

That was an benevolent act. Your understanding not required, obedience is.

P.S. What's Lemon group?

Don't ask, just join it...

[Snypy]

Ithurael wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

Well, they have no respect for people I think, fans and all. They have lumped all of us into one category. I think every fan should be insulted including the pro-enders here as well. They don't come here to discuss anything with you either. They think we all just hate them and want to see them ruined or hurt. Most of us have never advocated anything of the kind, but we are all the same in their eyes whether we like or dislike the endings. I think it's telling when ambiguity is considered to be closure.

Are you angry that Priestly locked your thread?

Don't be mad man. We all tried. The end is the end. We can only learn to enjoy what we have and either move on or stay.

Also, join the Lemon group...don't ask why - just do it:wizard::wizard:

I'm wondering when he'll lock the IT thread. The discussion there has gone on long enough as well.

[Ithurael]

Snypy wrote...

I'm wondering when he'll lock the IT thread. The discussion there has gone on long enough as well.

Technically that is more speculations. 3D's Thread was more a plea to change the endings. The IT thread won't be locked because it is under the speculation that there will be a new ending whereas 3D was plainly asking for a new ending.

I think that is the difference.

[Snypy]

Ithurael wrote...

Snypy wrote...

I'm wondering when he'll lock the IT thread. The discussion there has gone on long enough as well.

Technically that is more speculations. 3D's Thread was more a plea to change the endings. The IT thread won't be locked because it is under the speculation that there will be a new ending whereas 3D was plainly asking for a new ending.

I think that is the difference.

So, why didn't he lock the thread sooner? It's been there for a month and a half. Anyway, he could've at least said why they're not going to change the ending. 

Modifié par Snypy, 09 octobre 2012 - 03:36 .

[GreyLycanTrope]

"IT is a valid interpretation" which will be neither confirmed not denied. They won't risk upsetting the supporters by rocking the boat and telling them the interpretation's invalid.

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 09 octobre 2012 - 04:21 .

[JPR1964]

arial wrote...

 The real reason the ending(s) were poorly recieved is quite simple.

since the day ME3 was anounced, people started speculating on what features it would have, how the story would progress, etc.

It came to the state where No game could realisticly match what fans expected.

When the game finally came out, and it could not live up to what people were sure it would be, people looked for every possible reason to blame for their dissatisfaction.

No, it was poorly received because we've believed the lies of BW...

That's all...

JPR out!

[Snypy]

JPR1964 wrote...

arial wrote...

 The real reason the ending(s) were poorly recieved is quite simple.

since the day ME3 was anounced, people started speculating on what features it would have, how the story would progress, etc.

It came to the state where No game could realisticly match what fans expected.

When the game finally came out, and it could not live up to what people were sure it would be, people looked for every possible reason to blame for their dissatisfaction.

No, it was poorly received because we've believed the lies of BW...

That's all...

JPR out!

Interview with Casey Hudson (Director)
http://www.gameinfor...PostPageIndex=2

Interviewer: [Regarding the numerous possible endings of Mass Effect 2] “Is that
same type of complexity built into the ending of Mass Effect 3?”
Hudson: “Yeah, and I’d say much more so, because we have the ability to
build the endings out in a way that we don’t have to worry about
eventually tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is
coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot
more different. At this point we’re taking into account so many
decisions that you’ve made as a player and reflecting a lot of that
stuff. It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings,
where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got
ending A, B, or C.....The endings have a lot more sophistication and
variety in them.”

Modifié par Snypy, 09 octobre 2012 - 04:18 .

[CaIIisto]

For the last time, there was no A,B,C ending! It was R,G,B - totally different.....

[Ithurael]

Bester76 wrote...

For the last time, there was no A,B,C ending! It was R,G,B - totally different.....

Technically it was
A-vaporize
A-bad
A-good
A- good w/breath
B-bad
B-Good
C-Good

That is at least 7 variations and 'different' endings. Then you get the epilogues. All of those are different as well.

[Killer3000ad]

arial wrote...

 The real reason the ending(s) were poorly recieved is quite simple.

since the day ME3 was anounced, people started speculating on what features it would have, how the story would progress, etc.

It came to the state where No game could realisticly match what fans expected.

When the game finally came out, and it could not live up to what people were sure it would be, people looked for every possible reason to blame for their dissatisfaction.

No, the real reason is all the pre-release hype and promises we got from Bioware about our choices mattering and there'd be alot of varied endings. People were pissed when this turned out to be untrue.

[CaIIisto]

Ithurael wrote...

Bester76 wrote...

For the last time, there was no A,B,C ending! It was R,G,B - totally different.....

Technically it was
A-vaporize
A-bad
A-good
A- good w/breath
B-bad
B-Good
C-Good

That is at least 7 variations and 'different' endings. Then you get the epilogues. All of those are different as well.

Gotta love technicalities.

[Snypy]

Ithurael wrote...

Bester76 wrote...

For the last time, there was no A,B,C ending! It was R,G,B - totally different.....

Technically it was
A-vaporize
A-bad
A-good
A- good w/breath
B-bad
B-Good
C-Good

That is at least 7 variations and 'different' endings. Then you get the epilogues. All of those are different as well.

It turns out you and I have a different definition of what "good" means.

[GreyLycanTrope]

we also now have D- in game rage quit

[Ithurael]

Snypy wrote...

Ithurael wrote...

Bester76 wrote...

For the last time, there was no A,B,C ending! It was R,G,B - totally different.....

Technically it was
A-vaporize
A-bad
A-good
A- good w/breath
B-bad
B-Good
C-Good

That is at least 7 variations and 'different' endings. Then you get the epilogues. All of those are different as well.

It turns out you and I have a different definition of what "good" means.

LOL

I would state that you and bioware have different definition of what 'good' means:P

Good in this case means the buildings aren't destroyed.

Also we do need to add a D to that list to represent the Refuse option.

Technically it was
A-vaporize
A-bad
A-good
A- good w/breath
B-bad
B-Good
C-Good
D-lose

[3DandBeyond]

Bester76 wrote...

For the last time, there was no A,B,C ending! It was R,G,B - totally different.....

I've said it before and I'll say it again, why was there a G choice?  There is no G in ME3.  G is the failure to decide between 2 polar opposites and is not rewarded.

Oh what are you trying to say to us Bioware?  Where is the great meaning to all of this that we have overlooked.  We the unwashed masses of lost fandom.  We drank copious amounts of ME tonic.  We have basked in your genius and have yet to fully decode the meaning of fish, the Anderson choice, the TIM choice, the Marauder Shields, Harbinger, and Husk distraction that all tried to keep us from seeing all your awesomeness.  Why did you try so uh, hard to keep us from using that conduit?  Were you secretly trying to keep us from witnessing the most disruptive force known to man that ripped fans from servitude to EA Prime?  Did you send the Normandy down to rescue us--please tell us that we missed it that we too could have climbed aboard and told Joker to quit this galaxy, it's time was up.

Did we misunderstand something?  Was there some button press combo that would have removed this veil of dreamy crap and allowed us to actually play a game at the end (gasp)?  Or was there thickly disguised intelligence within that flawed impish intelligence that perhaps an EMS of 9 billion will allow us to access, or the purchase of 2000 microtransactions in MP?  Perhaps it's just we're too stupid to understand true greatness when we see it.  We who may have seen the works of Hawking, Da Vinci, Lady Gaga, are too imperfect here to just plain "get" it.  Too bad, I'm sure there's meaning there somewhere.

[Ithurael]

G=Synthesis 3D

It is...the Ideal Solution to the Reaper...I mean the Creator vs Created threat

[Maxster_]

Ithurael wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

That was an benevolent act. Your understanding not required, obedience is.

P.S. What's Lemon group?

Don't ask, just join it...

I'm indoctrinated by Lemon. There is no way back.

[3DandBeyond]

Ithurael wrote...

G=Synthesis 3D

It is...the Ideal Solution to the Reaper...I mean the Creator vs Created threat

Yes, green eyes crying in the rain.  However, I fail to see a relevant G category within ME3 itself.  I am forced to walk down R and B paths and find no G in between when all at once the G is forced upon me without warning.  It's a tricolor conspiracy meant to confuse me.

The lemon is alive.

[Snypy]

Ithurael wrote...

Snypy wrote...

Ithurael wrote...


Technically it was
A-vaporize
A-bad
A-good
A- good w/breath
B-bad
B-Good
C-Good

That is at least 7 variations and 'different' endings. Then you get the epilogues. All of those are different as well.

It turns out you and I have a different definition of what "good" means.

LOL

I would state that you and bioware have different definition of what 'good' means:P

Good in this case means the buildings aren't destroyed.

Also we do need to add a D to that list to represent the Refuse option.

Technically it was
A-vaporize
A-bad
A-good
A- good w/breath
B-bad
B-Good
C-Good
D-lose

I suppose it makes all the difference.