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[Lord Rosario]

Malanek999 wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

GaryMaple wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

Astartes Marine wrote...
Codex entries state they provide citizens to become Auxiliaries in the Turian military.

But not as ground troops.

the codex doesn't explicitly state that Turians have plumers or electricians either.

However it is talking about the military and does state they favour air supperiority. It is a fairly safe assumption to work out it is more likely they serve on their ships.

That's like saying the US has a terrible army and navy because they have a great Airforce. Sure, US doesn't have the best navy in the world, but it doesn't mean Americans are going to all serve in the Airforce.

Same concept for Volus. Yup, they have great bombers and ships. That means nothing for their ground troops.

No, it really isn't the same. Your analogy is very poor. This is from the codex (pay particular attention to the bolded part)

Because they are not physically adept compared to most species, volus mostly make their influence felt through trade and commerce, and they have a long history on the Citadel.

The volus are unable to survive unprotected in an atmosphere more suitable to humans and other carbon-based lifeforms, and as such require protective suits capable of providing the proper atmosphere, as well as being pressurized to support the volus. Traditional nitrogen/oxygen air mixtures are poisonous to them, and in the low pressure atmospheres tolerable to most species, their flesh will actually split open.

The volus are not physically cut out for combat, be it a full-scale war or even a bar room scuffle. As such, they are highly dependent on the turians for defense, although the volus themselves do provide some auxiliary troops to the Hierarchy. The volus will support the turians in any war they might pursue, and the turians will do the same for the volus. Possibly for this reason, volus weaponry tends to be utilitarian rather than high-grade. Some volus manufacturers specialise in cheaper, lower-grade copies of expensive turian equipment.

Volus prefer airpower in conflicts, counting on turians for ground support. They maintain several flotillas of heavy-bomber frigates capable of warfare in any atmosphere.

Oh look, Turians are support. That's news to me. I'll ask this question again.. What do the Volus do for ground support when the Turians are busy with the entire galaxy being at war? What about the Collectors that had just appeared?

Again, Volus may not have the best ground forces, but they do have them. Analogy stands. US might rely on the British navy and prefer airpower in conflicts, but when that alliance falls through, they do have a navy.

[Grumpy Old Wizard]

LiarasShield wrote...

They have never played a combat role against the reapers during all of mass effect 3 let alone the previous games before them so why in the universe are they being added?

Desparate times call for bringing in the big boys. And noone is bigger than the volus. Hurah!!!  Prepare to be saved!!! 

[stysiaq]

Lord Rosario wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

A joke race still ends up being just that a joke race that never played a role in any of the major conflicts throughout the me series and you can't really say otherwise unless bioware has them play a role in the new mass effect game they're making

Ok, we just had a quote pyramid about this.. I was starting to think that people's opinions of you were wrong, that perhaps you can and do see reason, but apparently, I was wrong.

If you don't agree with the Volus, that's fine, but find a good reason for it instead of restating stuff that makes absolutely no sence.

Abandon all hope. OP is genuine about his rage over little asthmatic space dwarves being added to multiplayer part of The Very Important Video Game or not. First world problems, all I can say.

I wanted to see his response to one of my previous posts, when I tried to reason with him, but he chose to not even notice it.

[nbiscuitz]

the new volus uses AC130ish aircraft that circles the map for ultimate destruction!!

[LiarasShield]

stysiaq wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

A joke race still ends up being just that a joke race that never played a role in any of the major conflicts throughout the me series and you can't really say otherwise unless bioware has them play a role in the new mass effect game they're making

Ok, we just had a quote pyramid about this.. I was starting to think that people's opinions of you were wrong, that perhaps you can and do see reason, but apparently, I was wrong.

If you don't agree with the Volus, that's fine, but find a good reason for it instead of restating stuff that makes absolutely no sence.

Abandon all hope. OP is genuine about his rage over little asthmatic space dwarves being added to multiplayer part of The Very Important Video Game or not. First world problems, all I can say.

I wanted to see his response to one of my previous posts, when I tried to reason with him, but he chose to not even notice it.

The volus are not physically cut out for combat, be it a full-scale war or even a bar room scuffle. As such, they are highly dependent on the turians for defense, although the volus themselves do provide some auxiliary troops to the Hierarchy. The volus will support the turians in any war they might pursue, and the turians will do the same for the volus.
Possibly for this reason, volus weaponry tends to be utilitarian rather than high-grade. Some volus manufacturers specialise in cheaper, lower-grade copies of expensive turian equipment.
Volus prefer airpower in conflicts, counting on turians for ground support. They maintain several flotillas of heavy-bomber frigates capable of warfare in any atmosphere.
The volus have only produced one dreadnought, the Kwunu, named after the diplomat who negotiated their client-race status with the turians. The Kwunu is the only volus ship of its class, but it is remarkably well-armed. Its broadside cannons and main gun are all Thanix Magnetic-Hydrodynamic Weapons. A turian general touring the Kwunu after its maiden system-voyage enthusiastically declared that the ship could "char a planet three times over". While its construction was funded entirely by the Elkoss Combine corporation, the dreadnought was jointly gifted to the Vol Protectorate and Turian Hierarchy upon completion.


By the way I've already explained I'm not a man and I've already given you facts already

[Ghost]

death_for_sale wrote...

5 pages of troll-feeding. LiarasShield is going to get really fat if you all keep this up.

[Lord Rosario]

LiarasShield wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

A joke race still ends up being just that a joke race that never played a role in any of the major conflicts throughout the me series and you can't really say otherwise unless bioware has them play a role in the new mass effect game they're making

Ok, we just had a quote pyramid about this.. I was starting to think that people's opinions of you were wrong, that perhaps you can and do see reason, but apparently, I was wrong.

If you don't agree with the Volus, that's fine, but find a good reason for it instead of restating stuff that makes absolutely no sence.

I've already stated more then enough reasons that do make sense you just can't see the sense in it because you're so dead hard on wanting them added that it doesn't matter to you lol

*facpalms* Nope, you aren't listening to a single word I've said.. The entire basis of my arguement is that they make little sense in single player and just as little sense in multiplayer. I'm saying they should be added because the work has already been put into creating and adding them. Not putting them in is just plain stupidity.

Riddle me this: Why would Bioware spend thousands of dollars to add Volus and then not add them? Because you asked nicely whined about it?

[MercylessKillah]

I'm amazed. BSN is now a place where Lore matters?

[LiarasShield]

I mean I even provided links my dear bsn users how far do I have to go for you to understand unless you played a different game that is not mass effect 3?

[k1ngl1ves]

@Rosario: The U.S. has the most OP Navy of all time, and are in every ocean of the world! I believe they only ask the Brit's for help to show solidarity... and for sh*ts and giggles.

No. I am not in the Navy.

[LiarasShield]

Lord Rosario wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

A joke race still ends up being just that a joke race that never played a role in any of the major conflicts throughout the me series and you can't really say otherwise unless bioware has them play a role in the new mass effect game they're making

Ok, we just had a quote pyramid about this.. I was starting to think that people's opinions of you were wrong, that perhaps you can and do see reason, but apparently, I was wrong.

If you don't agree with the Volus, that's fine, but find a good reason for it instead of restating stuff that makes absolutely no sence.

I've already stated more then enough reasons that do make sense you just can't see the sense in it because you're so dead hard on wanting them added that it doesn't matter to you lol

*facpalms* Nope, you aren't listening to a single word I've said.. The entire basis of my arguement is that they make little sense in single player and just as little sense in multiplayer. I'm saying they should be added because the work has already been put into creating and adding them. Not putting them in is just plain stupidity.

Riddle me this: Why would Bioware spend thousands of dollars to add Volus and then not add them? Because you asked nicely whined about it?

But lore does matter because multiplayer is still suppose to follow it so if the volus didn't do anything in singelplayer it fitting the lore means the volus would still do nothing in multiplayer as well

[RNG God]

[stysiaq]

LiarasShield wrote...

stysiaq wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

A joke race still ends up being just that a joke race that never played a role in any of the major conflicts throughout the me series and you can't really say otherwise unless bioware has them play a role in the new mass effect game they're making

Ok, we just had a quote pyramid about this.. I was starting to think that people's opinions of you were wrong, that perhaps you can and do see reason, but apparently, I was wrong.

If you don't agree with the Volus, that's fine, but find a good reason for it instead of restating stuff that makes absolutely no sence.

Abandon all hope. OP is genuine about his rage over little asthmatic space dwarves being added to multiplayer part of The Very Important Video Game or not. First world problems, all I can say.

I wanted to see his response to one of my previous posts, when I tried to reason with him, but he chose to not even notice it.

The volus are not physically cut out for combat, be it a full-scale war or even a bar room scuffle. As such, they are highly dependent on the turians for defense, although the volus themselves do provide some auxiliary troops to the Hierarchy. The volus will support the turians in any war they might pursue, and the turians will do the same for the volus.
Possibly for this reason, volus weaponry tends to be utilitarian rather than high-grade. Some volus manufacturers specialise in cheaper, lower-grade copies of expensive turian equipment.
Volus prefer airpower in conflicts, counting on turians for ground support. They maintain several flotillas of heavy-bomber frigates capable of warfare in any atmosphere.
The volus have only produced one dreadnought, the Kwunu, named after the diplomat who negotiated their client-race status with the turians. The Kwunu is the only volus ship of its class, but it is remarkably well-armed. Its broadside cannons and main gun are all Thanix Magnetic-Hydrodynamic Weapons. A turian general touring the Kwunu after its maiden system-voyage enthusiastically declared that the ship could "char a planet three times over". While its construction was funded entirely by the Elkoss Combine corporation, the dreadnought was jointly gifted to the Vol Protectorate and Turian Hierarchy upon completion.


By the way I've already explained I'm not a man and I've already given you facts already

My apologies then. Instead of quoting the wiki accept the fact that there's a possibility for a retcon. And for your own sake, stop acting like a child whose ice-cream fell on the floor. I mean, this is the internet, so you're free to act stupid (and you certainly know how to use that privilege), but such zeal and ferocity when discussing things that ultimately don't matter at all, can be dangerous in real life and get you into trouble.

Good night, miss.

[Grumpy Old Wizard]

LiarasShield wrote...

The volus are not physically cut out for combat, be it a full-scale war or even a bar room scuffle.

Sorry girly, but the Volus we are talking about are extraordinary volus, not run of the mill "Joe six pack" volus.  The average human being is not cut out for combat either. Lots of people who join the military "wash out."

Volus can be heroic too, and will show their awesomness now that it is crunch time for the galaxy.

Modifié par Grumpy Old Wizard, 08 octobre 2012 - 11:28 .

[k1ngl1ves]

Wait a minute!!! Maybe the Volus can call in a strike from the Flotillas circling above the Fire Base!!! Yes! Yes! Death From Above, and Biotic Gods from below!!!

Edit:  Now the Volus seems even more plausible!!!  Thanks OP...

Modifié par k1ngl1ves, 08 octobre 2012 - 11:30 .

[LiarasShield]

stysiaq wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

stysiaq wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

A joke race still ends up being just that a joke race that never played a role in any of the major conflicts throughout the me series and you can't really say otherwise unless bioware has them play a role in the new mass effect game they're making

Ok, we just had a quote pyramid about this.. I was starting to think that people's opinions of you were wrong, that perhaps you can and do see reason, but apparently, I was wrong.

If you don't agree with the Volus, that's fine, but find a good reason for it instead of restating stuff that makes absolutely no sence.

Abandon all hope. OP is genuine about his rage over little asthmatic space dwarves being added to multiplayer part of The Very Important Video Game or not. First world problems, all I can say.

I wanted to see his response to one of my previous posts, when I tried to reason with him, but he chose to not even notice it.

The volus are not physically cut out for combat, be it a full-scale war or even a bar room scuffle. As such, they are highly dependent on the turians for defense, although the volus themselves do provide some auxiliary troops to the Hierarchy. The volus will support the turians in any war they might pursue, and the turians will do the same for the volus.
Possibly for this reason, volus weaponry tends to be utilitarian rather than high-grade. Some volus manufacturers specialise in cheaper, lower-grade copies of expensive turian equipment.
Volus prefer airpower in conflicts, counting on turians for ground support. They maintain several flotillas of heavy-bomber frigates capable of warfare in any atmosphere.
The volus have only produced one dreadnought, the Kwunu, named after the diplomat who negotiated their client-race status with the turians. The Kwunu is the only volus ship of its class, but it is remarkably well-armed. Its broadside cannons and main gun are all Thanix Magnetic-Hydrodynamic Weapons. A turian general touring the Kwunu after its maiden system-voyage enthusiastically declared that the ship could "char a planet three times over". While its construction was funded entirely by the Elkoss Combine corporation, the dreadnought was jointly gifted to the Vol Protectorate and Turian Hierarchy upon completion.


By the way I've already explained I'm not a man and I've already given you facts already

My apologies then. Instead of quoting the wiki accept the fact that there's a possibility for a retcon. And for your own sake, stop acting like a child whose ice-cream fell on the floor. I mean, this is the internet, so you're free to act stupid (and you certainly know how to use that privilege), but such zeal and ferocity when discussing things that ultimately don't matter at all, can be dangerous in real life and get you into trouble.

Good night, miss.

Well unless bioware goes out and says they're retconing the lore it still matters for mass effect 3 but you have a good night as well ^_-

[Lord Rosario]

k1ngl1ves wrote...

@Rosario: The U.S. has the most OP Navy of all time, and are in every ocean of the world! I believe they only ask the Brit's for help to show solidarity... and for sh*ts and giggles.

No. I am not in the Navy.

I'd love to talk about that, but not here. Not the place for it. Quite off topic.

[AresKeith]

Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

The volus are not physically cut out for combat, be it a full-scale war or even a bar room scuffle.

Sorry girly, but the Volus we are talking about are extraordinary volus, not run of the mill "Joe six pack" volus.  The average human being is not cut out for combat either. Lots of people who join the military "wash out."

Volus can be heroic too, and will show their awesomness now that it is crunch time for the galaxy.

You mean the Volus in 50K years when there the size of the Hulk?

[FelixFelice]

Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

The volus are not physically cut out for combat, be it a full-scale war or even a bar room scuffle.

Sorry girly, but the Volus we are talking about are extraordinary volus, not run of the mill "Joe six pack" volus.  The average human being is not cut out for combat either. Lots of people who joing the military "wash out."

Volus can be heroic too, and will show their awesomness now that it is crunch time for the galaxy.

This. I'm pretty sure there are a select few Volus who can fight. They will have to anyways. The reapers are going to burn their planet. It's fight or die at this point in the series.

Also, I'm pretty sure there will be some sort of ingame explanation on either the MP character description or in the upcoming Omega DLC. Lets not get crazy until it is actually out.

[LiarasShield]

I mean I'll even go put in me3 right now and quote straight out of the codex if I have to to get some of you to understand lol

[Iron Spetsnaz]

Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

The volus are not physically cut out for combat, be it a full-scale war or even a bar room scuffle. [/b][/i]

Sorry girly, but the Volus we are talking about are extraordinary volus, not run of the mill "Joe six pack" volus.  The average human being is not cut out for combat either. Lots of people who join the military "wash out."

Volus can be heroic too, and will then be subsequently killed by the first husk that they see show their awesomness now that it is crunch time for the galaxy.

Fixed it for you

[reaperteck]

TheLustyElcor wrote...

ANSWER :The volus are being added so they can play a combat roll in mass effect.

I like this! The stuff happening in ME3 is unprecedented in this cycle, there's all kinds of desperate measures being taken that have never been taken before. Combat suits, i mean SERIOUS combat suits, would have occurred to the volus years ago. The prototypes would've already existed before the invasion. It makes sense that some, certainly not all volus would take up arms

[LiarasShield]

does the codex or wiki not matter to you all?

[Grumpy Old Wizard]

Iron Spetsnaz wrote...

Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

The volus are not physically cut out for combat, be it a full-scale war or even a bar room scuffle. [/b][/i]

Sorry girly, but the Volus we are talking about are extraordinary volus, not run of the mill "Joe six pack" volus.  The average human being is not cut out for combat either. Lots of people who join the military "wash out."

Volus can be heroic too, and will then be subsequently killed by the first husk that they see show their awesomness now that it is crunch time for the galaxy.

Fixed it for you

Oh ye of little faith. That is what the other races said about humans but Shepard proved them wrong!! 

[Lord Rosario]

LiarasShield wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

A joke race still ends up being just that a joke race that never played a role in any of the major conflicts throughout the me series and you can't really say otherwise unless bioware has them play a role in the new mass effect game they're making

Ok, we just had a quote pyramid about this.. I was starting to think that people's opinions of you were wrong, that perhaps you can and do see reason, but apparently, I was wrong.

If you don't agree with the Volus, that's fine, but find a good reason for it instead of restating stuff that makes absolutely no sence.

I've already stated more then enough reasons that do make sense you just can't see the sense in it because you're so dead hard on wanting them added that it doesn't matter to you lol

*facpalms* Nope, you aren't listening to a single word I've said.. The entire basis of my arguement is that they make little sense in single player and just as little sense in multiplayer. I'm saying they should be added because the work has already been put into creating and adding them. Not putting them in is just plain stupidity.

Riddle me this: Why would Bioware spend thousands of dollars to add Volus and then not add them? Because you asked nicely whined about it?

But lore does matter because multiplayer is still suppose to follow it so if the volus didn't do anything in singelplayer it fitting the lore means the volus would still do nothing in multiplayer as well

I'm sorry but Multiplayer doesn't fit lore. I agree that lore should be preserved as much as possible, but not at the cost of an enjoyable game. That is exactly what makes ME great is it's flexibility in it's own lore. Many games and shows get strangleheld by their lore.

Still, Volus could fit lore. It would be overly complicated, but possible, and could even be pretty neat. Arguement that they can't fit lore/shouldn't be added is a bad one. Having the opinion that they are lame and uncool and shouldn't have been created for MP, that's fine. But if they have been created then they should be released.

Just give the Volus their chance to prove they are no joke.