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[Nashimura]

 I was playing through the other week and about to duel the Arishok and he says something about how he would duel a women and Fenris shouts "She's not a women"  Thanks Fenris....

[Sylvianus]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Felya87 wrote...
...would people be angry even if a lesbian character hit on her female PG? or is just for male NPG that people are angry?

I think you mean PC, but I agree with the sentiment.  The example of a male character hitting on a female PC clearly set some people off when it was meant as nothing more than an illustration of the world reaction to player choices, gender included.

Personally, I'd like the world to be more reactive to everything--specialization, class, race, plot choices, and gender too.  And honestly, if the very thought of someone noticing the PC's gender ticks people off, meh.  People don't have the right to not be offended, and the writers shouldn't have to tiptoe around us.

Agreed. I think they missed the point.

[fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb]

Yah I support this. It's really not sexism.. it's not like you're paid less gold, can't vote or are subjected to an idiotic kitchen joke. And even if there was, having sexism exist in the setting or sexist characters is not the same as a story with a sexist view, just like how there's an abundance of (fictional) racism in this and other fantasy games. In fact it's quite often the opposite agenda of promoting it when there's a film focusing on racism or sexism.

Modifié par fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb, 09 octobre 2012 - 12:19 .

[Felya87]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Felya87 wrote...
...would people be angry even if a lesbian character hit on her female PG? or is just for male NPG that people are angry?

I think you mean PC, but I agree with the sentiment.  The example of a male character hitting on a female PC clearly set some people off when it was meant as nothing more than an illustration of the world reaction to player choices, gender included.

Personally, I'd like the world to be more reactive to everything--specialization, class, race, plot choices, and gender too.  And honestly, if the very thought of someone noticing the PC's gender ticks people off, meh.  People don't have the right to not be offended, and the writers shouldn't have to tiptoe around us.

Sorry. in italian forums the PC is the PG. little lapsus. I still have some problem with the english.

I want too more reaction not only on the gender, but to race and specialization too, just I don't like the exageration of some people. Just because a guy made a compliment to a girl, is not harassing. and I think this is what peole intend when say a male NPC flirt with a female PC.
Is just wrong!

[naminco]

I can say I would like more recognition of the gender of my character, but if they don't do it, I won;t complain. It's kind of meh. On the other hand, I definitely don't want them to 'overemphasize' being female or something. Also, there is a fine line between 'recognizing gender' and 'imposing hierarchy.' Thedas seemed more or less egalitarian to me, and I was satisfied with Lady Hawke's attitude and the way people treated her. Same thing for F!Warden. As long as F!PC doesn't go around shouting about how she's just as good as men, just proves it by beating stuff up, I'll be happy.

[Yobel]

It's an interesting matter, damn. I would like to have a feeling in that topic in the dialogues, something like: 'A fragile lady like that shouldn't stick her nose in something isn't her business" or something. When player crates a guy, it would be something: 'You think you can take me on? Come and get me!"
It would help in immersion I think.

[Sealy]

Noooo! One of the worst examples of Bioware trying to add recognition to gender choice is in the Fenris romance. Female you get "Do your markings hurt you?" which is great, story related, male Hawke needs to reaffirm that Fenris wasn't upset after sleeping with a male. Blech. No plsthnx.

[Fredward]

What is the goal of feminism? Is it for women to be treated as the equal of males? Or is it to create a completely androgynous society where gender differences no longer exist?

Look feminism still definitely has a way to go. My English lecturer pointed this out quite succintly when she showed us a graph showing the HUGE discrepancies between what males with a doctorate are paid and what women with a doctorate are paid. It's disgusting.

But I've always LIKED the gender differences in DA. When someone says something sexist in the games, you usually have a snappy comeback option or you leave them bleeding in the dirt. It's the OPPOSITE of victimization. Instead of just quietly allowing it to happen, or worse, not having the option to do anything 9/10 the guy is made to be not so alive anymore.

It's not about eliminating gender. Which in itself is also a kind of slap in the face . It's about giving the player a variety of ways to deal with a situation as he/she sees fit. If you want to ROLEPLAY a timid victim (MALE OR FEMALE) that should be represented, if you want to tell the guy you're gonna cut off his balls and shove them down his throat, that should be represented as well.

Oh and btw the thread title says "gender" as in both male and female. Contrary to seemingly popular belief women can actually harass men too yah know.

[Kidd]

This is a sensitive topic, because in most cases where there's a difference in gender-checked dialogue in games, it has to do with power and agency. Women are more oftenly than not associated with weakness ("you're stronger than any other woman I've ever met" is still a note about women being weak) when it comes to having segregated dialogue, while men simply get the vanilla experience. It doesn't have to be like that of course. I'd rather the writers err on the side of being too safe, however.

About the whole thing with genders and flirting and why the attitudes are different, I remember reading a blog post about nude photographs that seems relevant. Aside from the obvious temper tantrum, I believe it's a good text.

[berelinde]

I'm not in favor of anything that propagates unnecessary gender stereotypes. I wouldn't expect to see gender-bashing in a BioWare game, but having random NPCs cast aspersions on my female characters' prowess would definitely turn me off to the game. That said, I can live with Meeran's elevator eyes. I would have been more amused had he done it to my male Hawkes, too, but you can't have everything. The difference is that looks of admiration are a compliment where terms like "little lady" are not. I put a lot of effort into making characters that I find attractive. I like it when the game world agrees with me. One of my favorite throw-away moments in the game was during the "Get Back to Work" quest in DA2, when you go talk to Jansen and his friend and one of them gets called out for inappropriate staring.

[Chipaway111]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

What is the goal of feminism? Is it for women to be treated as the equal of males? Or is it to create a completely androgynous society where gender differences no longer exist?

Look feminism still definitely has a way to go. My English lecturer pointed this out quite succintly when she showed us a graph showing the HUGE discrepancies between what males with a doctorate are paid and what women with a doctorate are paid. It's disgusting.

But I've always LIKED the gender differences in DA. When someone says something sexist in the games, you usually have a snappy comeback option or you leave them bleeding in the dirt. It's the OPPOSITE of victimization. Instead of just quietly allowing it to happen, or worse, not having the option to do anything 9/10 the guy is made to be not so alive anymore.

It's not about eliminating gender. Which in itself is also a kind of slap in the face . It's about giving the player a variety of ways to deal with a situation as he/she sees fit. If you want to ROLEPLAY a timid victim (MALE OR FEMALE) that should be represented, if you want to tell the guy you're gonna cut off his balls and shove them down his throat, that should be represented as well.

Oh and btw the thread title says "gender" as in both male and female. Contrary to seemingly popular belief women can actually harass men too yah know.

I had a long-winded post typed out, but then I read this and it sums up everything I wanted to write. A favourite response of my Lady Cousland to a flirty NPC in Awakening is "I'll rivet you to the floor if you call me that again" or something to that effect. It just felt fun, and good. 

Also I can never quite understand the argument "I deal with this in real life" it's pure fiction. It is not trying to victimize a person or minority in any one way. Not BioWares anyway.

[fchopin]

I would love for the game to react more to what the pc character is playing, whether i was playing Male\\Female, Mage\\Warrior or Human\\Elf or whatever.

[Sylvianus]

nevermind.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 09 octobre 2012 - 12:31 .

[naminco]

berelinde wrote...

I'm not in favor of anything that propagates unnecessary gender stereotypes. I wouldn't expect to see gender-bashing in a BioWare game, but having random NPCs cast aspersions on my female characters' prowess would definitely turn me off to the game. That said, I can live with Meeran's elevator eyes. I would have been more amused had he done it to my male Hawkes, too, but you can't have everything. The difference is that looks of admiration are a compliment where terms like "little lady" are not. I put a lot of effort into making characters that I find attractive. I like it when the game world agrees with me. One of my favorite throw-away moments in the game was during the "Get Back to Work" quest in DA2, when you go talk to Jansen and his friend and one of them gets called out for inappropriate staring.

In real life, I would totally agree with you. In a game, if that was ALL I was hearing about my character, I would also agree with you. But some here and there is reflecting some characters' personal opinions, and that's a role-playing game. I would be okay with it. (I laugh whenever Meeran licks Hawke with his eyeballs.)

[berelinde]

naminco wrote...

berelinde wrote...

I'm not in favor of anything that propagates unnecessary gender stereotypes. I wouldn't expect to see gender-bashing in a BioWare game, but having random NPCs cast aspersions on my female characters' prowess would definitely turn me off to the game. That said, I can live with Meeran's elevator eyes. I would have been more amused had he done it to my male Hawkes, too, but you can't have everything. The difference is that looks of admiration are a compliment where terms like "little lady" are not. I put a lot of effort into making characters that I find attractive. I like it when the game world agrees with me. One of my favorite throw-away moments in the game was during the "Get Back to Work" quest in DA2, when you go talk to Jansen and his friend and one of them gets called out for inappropriate staring.

In real life, I would totally agree with you. In a game, if that was ALL I was hearing about my character, I would also agree with you. But some here and there is reflecting some characters' personal opinions, and that's a role-playing game. I would be okay with it. (I laugh whenever Meeran licks Hawke with his eyeballs.)

Yeah, I get a chuckle out of that, too. I feel cheated that my male Hawkes don't get the same treatment, so I usually do Meeran with the Marians and Athenril with the Garretts.

I wasn't really talking about lecherous comments, though. If Meeran had said "Your uncle is asking a lot. With arms like that, you couldn't possibly be any good," I would have been looking for an option to feed him his teeth. Being a BioWare game, there would probably be one, so I'd still be happy. I might not take it, but I would be pleased to see it there.

Maybe I'm not being completely honest. Isolated NPCs being misogynistic (or the male-bashing equivalent) isn't going to frost my cupcake. Taking it to a meta-game extreme where gender factored into actual game mechanics, e.g. females get a penalty to strength, would. I have no fear whatsoever that BioWare would do anything like that, but forum discussions about greater recognition of gener have a tendency to go in that direction eventually.

One thing that does drive me nuts, and has actually discouraged me from playing female Hawkes as frequently as I otherwise would, is that ridiculous running animation. She looks as if she's going to dislocate her pelvis with every step. But that's an argument for another day.

[Aleya]

I like to have it influence the way some NPCs treat you. The ones that you'd expect to comment on someone being male/female. Playboys, known mysoginists, snooty my-gender-is-superior types, that kind of thing. I don't want gender to be a huge deal though. One sexist idiot to be punched in the face per game is enough. 

The occasional gender-specific line is enough to make me happy. Grunt's "Shepard is my battlemaster. She has no equal." from ME2 is my absolute favorite example of gender-marked dialogue. For the most part I don't care if dialogue is neutral.

[naminco]

berelinde wrote...

naminco wrote...

berelinde wrote...

I'm not in favor of anything that propagates unnecessary gender stereotypes. I wouldn't expect to see gender-bashing in a BioWare game, but having random NPCs cast aspersions on my female characters' prowess would definitely turn me off to the game. That said, I can live with Meeran's elevator eyes. I would have been more amused had he done it to my male Hawkes, too, but you can't have everything. The difference is that looks of admiration are a compliment where terms like "little lady" are not. I put a lot of effort into making characters that I find attractive. I like it when the game world agrees with me. One of my favorite throw-away moments in the game was during the "Get Back to Work" quest in DA2, when you go talk to Jansen and his friend and one of them gets called out for inappropriate staring.

In real life, I would totally agree with you. In a game, if that was ALL I was hearing about my character, I would also agree with you. But some here and there is reflecting some characters' personal opinions, and that's a role-playing game. I would be okay with it. (I laugh whenever Meeran licks Hawke with his eyeballs.)

Yeah, I get a chuckle out of that, too. I feel cheated that my male Hawkes don't get the same treatment, so I usually do Meeran with the Marians and Athenril with the Garretts.

I wasn't really talking about lecherous comments, though. If Meeran had said "Your uncle is asking a lot. With arms like that, you couldn't possibly be any good," I would have been looking for an option to feed him his teeth. Being a BioWare game, there would probably be one, so I'd still be happy. I might not take it, but I would be pleased to see it there.

Maybe I'm not being completely honest. Isolated NPCs being misogynistic (or the male-bashing equivalent) isn't going to frost my cupcake. Taking it to a meta-game extreme where gender factored into actual game mechanics, e.g. females get a penalty to strength, would. I have no fear whatsoever that BioWare would do anything like that, but forum discussions about greater recognition of gener have a tendency to go in that direction eventually.

One thing that does drive me nuts, and has actually discouraged me from playing female Hawkes as frequently as I otherwise would, is that ridiculous running animation. She looks as if she's going to dislocate her pelvis with every step. But that's an argument for another day.

I absolutely would wrote a long and angry letter if there was a mechanical penalty. And the walking animation was the first thing I noticed when the game started. I was like "wtf?" but I got used to it, I suppose. Now it doesn't seem so unnatural...that's probably not a good thing.

[deatharmonic]

I agree OP, I think little touches of detail such as this made my play through's of DAO more enjoyable.

[Xilizhra]

DA2 handled it fine. There's no reason to make player sex a major issue, especially in a world like Thedas that's demonstrably more equal than our world at that time.

[Mummy22kids]

syllogi wrote...

randomchasegurney wrote...

Dhiro wrote...

That... isn't the same thing at all.

True but I got a good laugh writing it. That said, I can take specific quotes that say:
Women getting hit on by men = makes the women less badass
This is funny because from a male perspective:
Man getting hit on by women = man becomes more badass.

Edit: oops deleted the wrong qoute marker

Edit: I can count on one hand all the times in all my time on social forums where men have been offended because woman hit on them, meanwhile I couldn't tell you how many times women have been offended. Differences in gender I guess.

The difference (at least in my experience) is that women have to worry about the possibility of men becoming more aggressive and even dangerous if they don't respond well to their flirting, at least in real life.  Not that this is always the case, of course, but I know I feel a bit of anxiety and worry when a strange man approaches me.  He *might* be perfectly polite and calm if I'm not interested (and 99.9 percent of the time, I'm not), but he *might* also freak out and curse me out for a block and a half (this isn't common, but I know I'm not the only woman this has happened to).  I don't think men have the same frame of reference when it comes to strange women approaching them to flirt.

If I'm playing a video game, I want to relax, and not think about anxiety inducing, embarrassing, and sometimes scary incidents of "flirting."  I'm cool with NPCs not acknowledging my character's gender if it means I don't have to feel like this is an issue.

One place where I think gender acknowledgement and "seduction/flirting" was done well was in Fallout New Vegas, where if I chose the Black Widow perk, I had extra dialogue options.  I didn't *have* to choose them, but they were there, and they could lead to hilarity, in some cases.

Generally, it's nice if my character's gender, race, and background can be mentioned and incorporated into the story, but if the only way it's done for a female character is having male characters flirt in an uncomfortable manner, or being sexually harrassed with no way to tell the male character to quit it (hello, James Vega), then I can do without.

I can understand where you are coming from but I have to say (as a woman) the only time I've ever been attacked it was by another woman.  I was walking down the street with my kids one day and a woman (who was unstable) walked by ranting to herself and reach out and hit me in the face with her shoes (which she was carrying at the time).  I was not the only person she attacked that day either.  Despite that I do not worry that another woman will randonly attack me on the street- nor do I worry that a man will either.  I would like acknowledgement of gender to be a bit higher.  One of my favorite parts of both games was when Sten says that you can be a woman because you fight.  By the end he acknowledges that you are a powerful person- I feel like my PC has changed his mind.  In addition, the scene where Morrigan calls you a "sister" is an acknowledgement of gender n the game that I really found to be a nice touch.  This being said I've only played DA:O as a male once, and never in DA2 so I'm sure there's lots of difference I don't know about.

[Blessed Silence]

Sylvanpyxie wrote...
Agreed, it would be great to see greater reactions based upon my gender, class and previous decisions I have made.

In terms of gender:

I loved Gilmore's admiration for my ability, I got some sort of smug satisfaction out of his admission that I was better than most men on the training field. I loved that I could shock my sister-in-law with my generally rowdy behaviour, and I got greater satisfaction when I ground Howe's face into the dirt when he commented on me "playing the man".

Similarly, I loved the City Elf origin in the same way. The guards claiming they would "make it quick" only to be crushed beneath my boot. The Guard Captain saying he'd "put me in my place" and my response, smug and arrogant, destroying him and his fellow guards.

There was a certain satisfaction in it, and I missed it a great deal in Dragon Age 2, especially when it's absence was obvious - Like the Arishok not commenting on a Warrior Woman.

However, gender differentiation is but one thing - Your class needs to be recognized more, nothing was worse than walking around Kirkwall as a Mage, only to be ignored by the majority of Templars as you cast spells right in front of their faces. This should really apply to specializations too, since Blood Magic is a pretty big thing.

In fact, choices were a big one in Dragon Age 2 too, considering you went around cleaning up everyone's messes and clearing out general riff-raff, you'd expect people to address your infamy. Especially since you had your own personal story teller spreading constant rumours about your ability, not to mention the fact you're contained to a single city, Hawke must have been Super Hero status by the start of Act2... Yet it's hardly mentioned until you reach "Champion" status.

More recognition of classes, genders and general infamy would be nice to have - Though i'm not holding my breath, since the different branches of conversation would require additional resources.

Sorry, that turned out to be longer than I expected.... *Runs away*

Shame there is no rep bar, but this is a great explination of my feelings on this subject as well. 

Sylvianus wrote...

FINE HERE wrote...
((snip))

Thank you for being sane.

Obviously, that has nothing to do with sexism, Really, I will begin to consider this word as bull**** if it is used everyday for anything irrelevant.

I liked that in DAO there were a few ( You people didn't seem offended ) differences ( and please don't tell me there weren't, I finished twice this game lately ) which make me feel that my choice to choose a male or female mattered, and affected the world around me a bit. ( like the origins ) I don't see the point to give exactly the same dialogue everywhere, exactly the same lines during all the game, as if nobody noticed what was the gender I chose, who was before his eyes.

I wasn't offended, as you commented, because I knew it was a game.  A game where I could show that man or woman, elf/dwarf/human up and not get in trouble ... (I miss my renegade button for these circumstances).  Heh if I did anything IRL I'd be writing this to you from a jail cell.

And that's all I think it really is ... knowing the difference.  And I will admit, there are some things in games that make me blow my gasket, which is GOOD!  Just like books, gaming media is made for you to feel emotion.
That's WHY I want such differences in the game! 

[syllogi]

Mummy22kids wrote...

syllogi wrote...

The difference (at least in my experience) is that women have to worry about the possibility of men becoming more aggressive and even dangerous if they don't respond well to their flirting, at least in real life.  Not that this is always the case, of course, but I know I feel a bit of anxiety and worry when a strange man approaches me.  He *might* be perfectly polite and calm if I'm not interested (and 99.9 percent of the time, I'm not), but he *might* also freak out and curse me out for a block and a half (this isn't common, but I know I'm not the only woman this has happened to).  I don't think men have the same frame of reference when it comes to strange women approaching them to flirt.

If I'm playing a video game, I want to relax, and not think about anxiety inducing, embarrassing, and sometimes scary incidents of "flirting."  I'm cool with NPCs not acknowledging my character's gender if it means I don't have to feel like this is an issue.

One place where I think gender acknowledgement and "seduction/flirting" was done well was in Fallout New Vegas, where if I chose the Black Widow perk, I had extra dialogue options.  I didn't *have* to choose them, but they were there, and they could lead to hilarity, in some cases.

Generally, it's nice if my character's gender, race, and background can be mentioned and incorporated into the story, but if the only way it's done for a female character is having male characters flirt in an uncomfortable manner, or being sexually harrassed with no way to tell the male character to quit it (hello, James Vega), then I can do without.

I can understand where you are coming from but I have to say (as a woman) the only time I've ever been attacked it was by another woman.  I was walking down the street with my kids one day and a woman (who was unstable) walked by ranting to herself and reach out and hit me in the face with her shoes (which she was carrying at the time).  I was not the only person she attacked that day either.  Despite that I do not worry that another woman will randonly attack me on the street- nor do I worry that a man will either.  I would like acknowledgement of gender to be a bit higher.  One of my favorite parts of both games was when Sten says that you can be a woman because you fight.  By the end he acknowledges that you are a powerful person- I feel like my PC has changed his mind.  In addition, the scene where Morrigan calls you a "sister" is an acknowledgement of gender n the game that I really found to be a nice touch.  This being said I've only played DA:O as a male once, and never in DA2 so I'm sure there's lots of difference I don't know about.

Maybe it's more prevalent in big cities (where people walk more than drive), but there have been several occasions where I have been followed late at night by men when I was alone, who got upset when I didn't want to talk to them, or called a "B" or crazy because I didn't flirt back when they tried to flirt with me.  I try to be polite, but on those occasions, I value my safety more than being perceived as nice.  If it's never happened to you or some other women, great for you, but that doesn't mean it's not fairly common elsewhere.

As I said above, I don't mind having my character's gender acknowledged, at least in a small part, but IF the main way being a female hero is acknoweldged is unsolicited flirting and sexual harrassment that the player can't shut down, then I'd rather have gender neutrality.  This is not unreasonable.

Modifié par syllogi, 09 octobre 2012 - 02:36 .

[Foolsfolly]

JCAP wrote...

 Let me explain:

In DA:O, the npc's treat you differently according to the sex that you chose, the most obvious example is Alistair, with a male warden he treated him like a comrade in arms, and with a female he was more "flirty". We could notice that difference not only in our companions, but in the others npc's too.

In DA II, male and female Hawke are treated very similarly, the only difference I remember now is when we meet that mercenary that help us enter the city (and during love scenes with the companions).

I know this might be a little silly, but every little detail helps making a great work (hopefully, DA III will be a masterpiece  ).

What do you think?

(sorry my English)

That's a tightwire balancing act. If you make male and female characters different in any way you'd probably ****** someone off.

I can understand why you'd want it. I do. I replay these games a lot with different genders and races whenever possible. I like seeing how things are different if I do this instead of that. But there are people who pick a class or a gender and they never choose otherwise no matter how many times they replay the game. And to them it isn't "how is this different" it's "why is my choice the one where so-n-so treats me like this?"

In very general terms I'm all for gender being treated differently. Not over-the-top constantly having people yell catcalls at you but at least some differences. Morrowind, for example, had the Telvanni House which had a leader that completely loathed men. Working for her and trying to advance was hard if you were a man. If you were a woman she saw you as a protege and advancement was almost as easy as just asking to be advanced. I can't think of a time where being a male made things easier in that game... there must have been one.

Of course the Elder Scrolls aren't the best at doing this stuff. Hilariously and somewhat famously they had their redguard race great in strength and althetics but they started the game with negative intelligence and magic. Some fans, probably rightfully, thought that was racist.

It's a balancing act. I thought Origins handled it rather well.

[KainD]

oui_je_danse wrote...

I wonder how all these male gamers demanding more sexism would feel if the writers decided Thedas was sexist against men. That in a world with powerful, iconic women and a female dominated religion, it would be men who got the boot? That male players would have their power fantasy interrupted by constant questioing of their characters presence and abilities? Some would dig the "realism" of sexism, but most would just be rageful.

Are you kidding? I would love to play something like that. I am a fan of D&D Drow, and they have tha society structure btw. 

Not that I support treating women differntly in this game though. 

Modifié par KainD, 09 octobre 2012 - 02:56 .

[Eternal Phoenix]

Let's establish the facts shall we?

• Clearly some people in this thread have no knowledge about social science. Men and women do treat each other differently and this doesn't have to relate to anything sexual. When you observe groups of the same sex interacting with each other; they do so differently. There are things that men only speak about (and do) with male friends and won't speak about (or do) with female friends and vice versa. Now unless the mentality of humans is different in Thedas (which nothing hints at)  then there's no reason for this "everyone views each gender as the same" concept.
• Acknowledge of gender isn't sexism. If it is then all the official documents you have to fill in life are sexist because you have to say what your gender is.
• The topic title isn't referring only to a female character. Note the word "gender" which means that the OP is also asking for a male character to be referenced.
• Why does gender *just* have to dictate who hits on you? It could also impact how relationships unfold. Note how Alistair in Dragon Age: Origins treats a female Warden differently to a male Warden who he can come to view as a comrade in arms earlier on.
• Again another example is with Morrigan and a female Warden and how the friendship develops differently.
• Yet another example is the Lelianna romance. Lelianna prefers women over men. Now as far as I know (at least what the DA wikia tells me) this leads to a different romance than to what a male character would experience.
• Just because the majority on Thedas view both genders as equal doesn't mean there can't be a few individuals who don't share that view. Maybe there's a woman who has had bad experiences with men in the past and is completely mistrusting of male characters which means you'll need to persuade her as a male character to get information about a certain quest whereas a female character will get the information from her straight away. Likewise you could apply this scenario the other way around.

Study some social science people. Unless humans on Thedas have minds which have different perspectives than us (which no lore hints at) then there's no reason why they wouldn't make remarks on gender and other aesthetic aspects. Humans judge on appearances, it's part of the human mind to do so. Aesthetics influence a human's views very much.

Seriously has BSN been stormed with feminists?

"I don't want my gender acknowledged. It's sexist."

It's not. One should be happy with who they are. Having an important part of their appearance mentioned isn't sexist and occurs daily. Next saying "she" will be sexist right? Or is it already?