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[Nimpe]

If theoretically the Warden or Hawke were to appear in DA3, would their faces import at all? I would not think so, since the character creator changed drastically from DA:O and DA2 and they were both from the same engine, but I don't think I've seen a dev comment one way or the other. This website does have full models of our characters after all.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

A lot of things can be done across engines with the right resources. I don't think it's impossible. I'm fairly sure they didn't do it for DA2 not because they couldn't, but because it was more time/cost efficient to re-create returning characters instead of program the functionality for a direct import.

But again, I think it's possible. If they bring back those characters at all they'll have to find a way.

[Vicious]

Given the engine change, i wouldn't bet on it.

  with the right resources.

bingo. Nobody liked how Zev came out in DA2, he'd look even different in DA3. cue anger.

Modifié par Vicious, 09 octobre 2012 - 12:00 .

[XCelfa]

They could always be wearing a full suit of armor, helmet or hood included. Secrecy and all that jazz.

[Henioo]

I dread to see my female elven or dwarven Wardens under the new artistic vision.

[NUM13ER]

Hawkes the easier of the two given if they put him or her in armour that hides facial features they have the two voice actors for each gender ready to go. Plus if the save import carries over your Hawke's personality (i.e. whether it was more snarky or aggressive) then it'll land pretty close.

However the Warden was multiple races of either gender, silent and I doubt they tracked if you we're prone to making wise cracks or cracking skulls. It would be a great deal harder to implement.

Modifié par NUM13ER, 09 octobre 2012 - 12:15 .

[Henioo]

I liked it how they did it with Claude and GTA San Andreas.

He walks up to Carl like he was gonna say something, and then just doesn't. ;p

Modifié par Henioo, 09 octobre 2012 - 12:21 .

[NessCraig]

I loved how Mass Effect imported my charecters throughout the game. I feel like they could succeed.

I personally liked Zevran much better in the second game...

[leaguer of one]

Henioo wrote...

I dread to see my female elven or dwarven Wardens under the new artistic vision.

The new artist vision is just the old one form DA:O but with more detail and realistic.

[Former_Fiend]

I don't think they need to import the Warden's face, or Hawke's.

All they need to do is let us use the character creator for them.

[Xsari Rose]

Maybe in The Keep you can recreate your Warden and Hawke when you make a save? Or create them at the beginning of the game (though that would be pretty annoying creating 3 characters). Most likely they will just get mentions and won't appear at all.

Modifié par Xsari Rose, 17 septembre 2013 - 12:18 .

[Former_Fiend]

Xsari Rose wrote...

Maybe in The Keep you can recreate your Warden and Hawke when you make a save? Or create them at the beginning of the game (though that would be pretty annoying creating 3 characters). Most likely they will just get mentions and won't appear at all.

I've been saying that since DA2 came out. Just let us create them over again. It's not hard.

Depending on what new options the new CC offers, I'm sure several people would be delighted at the opportunity to update the Warden or Hawke's appearance.

[Spectre slayer]

I don't think imports will be possible but Gaider did say recently if they appear physically as NPC'S we do control how they look so I think there might be a character creation option for them if they do show up.

[Clockwork_Wings]

It might be fun to use a character creator in the Keep, but whether that's worth it or not is not for me to decide.

[Palidane]

I think it was already stated on IGN that there will be character creators for the Warden and Hawke as part of Dragon Age Keep.

[Clockwork_Wings]

Palidane wrote...

I think it was already stated on IGN that there will be character creators for the Warden and Hawke as part of Dragon Age Keep.

There's speculation based on one of the devs saying something about the warden and Hawke having an important role.  If you have a source, I would very much like to see it. 

[ShaggyWolf]

Palidane wrote...

I think it was already stated on IGN that there will be character creators for the Warden and Hawke as part of Dragon Age Keep.

I think David Gaider said something to that effect as well, and even if he didn't, that would be my expectation anyway.

I can't see the Warden or Hawke supposedly playing a major role off-screen, or on-screen with their face obscured. If those 2 characters do show up, they have the opportunity to let the player define the way they look via the Keep, and it would be crazy to do anything less imo.

Now what would be especially awesome would be if we could define the way their armor and weapons look that way, too

[Clockwork_Wings]

Valadras21 wrote...

Palidane wrote...

I think it was already stated on IGN that there will be character creators for the Warden and Hawke as part of Dragon Age Keep.

I think David Gaider said something to that effect as well, and even if he didn't, that would be my expectation anyway.

I can't see the Warden or Hawke supposedly playing a major role off-screen, or on-screen with their face obscured. If those 2 characters do show up, they have the opportunity to let the player define the way they look via the Keep, and it would be crazy to do anything less imo.

Now what would be especially awesome would be if we could define the way their armor and weapons look that way, too

I wouldn't see why it would be too difficult for it to tell what weapon proficiency they had.  As for weapons and armor, I suspect it'll be one size fits class warden attire. 

[ShaggyWolf]

@Clockwork_Wings, you're likely right about that. It's certainly a more realistic expectation.

I think it would be awesome if I could make my Warden dress the way I want him to, because my character is definitely not the type to wear a uniform, but I suspect that would be delving into the kind of headcanon that David Gaider said they aren't obligated to uphold. And that's fine. As long as he doesn't act like a moron or a goody-two-shoes, or do something stupid, I'll be happy.

[Clockwork_Wings]

Valadras21 wrote...

@Clockwork_Wings, you're likely right about that. It's certainly a more realistic expectation.

I think it would be awesome if I could make my Warden dress the way I want him to, because my character is definitely not the type to wear a uniform, but I suspect that would be delving into the kind of headcanon that David Gaider said they aren't obligated to uphold. And that's fine. As long as he doesn't act like a moron or a goody-two-shoes, or do something stupid, I'll be happy.

Reguardless of how my warden was in DAO, come Witch Hunt I start thinking of them as older, more certain of their place in the world and their role within it.  How many years come DAI have they been listening to people telling them they have an image to uphold? 

Me, I'm hoping they do let us create them in the Keep for an appearance.  If it's done well, you'll hear the cries of excitement on Mars.

Although I wouldn't want them as a companion.  It would be kind of odd, a little trippy, and I'm not sure I want to see them as an NPC I can talk to for the rest of the game, especially for just one line of repeated dialog.  "We should move on.  We should move on.  We should move on." 

However, I do think eventually it might be important to speak to the king/queen of Fereldan and the Commander of the Gray.  And that's not taking into account why Morrigan came back from the Eluvian and what she's doing in Orlais, if the Warden followed her, and where s/he went otherwise.

[FenrirBlackDragon]

I was hoping we'd be able to do something to this effect with the Dragon Age Keep, especially when one of the options they ask you about on the beta application is character customization (which is something I indicated interest in). Since my Hawke and Warden would be older in DA:I, having a slightly updated appearance would make sense (maybe greying or white hair, or the same hair color, and same features, but maybe a different hair style?). If they do include the warden or Hawke in some way if they are alive, I would hope they would let us do this and the Keep seems like the most logical way to do this.

[Fast Jimmy]

I would suggest a much more prudent course of action is to follow the suggestion Allan has given multiple times on this topic...

Don't expect any appearance at all from the Warden and Hawke. Give zero thought to how they would appear, what they will look like or what effect they will have. Because then, if they show up at all, it will be enjoyable for you. As opposed to putting incredibly unrealistic expectations about The Keep letting you design everything about them, including a costume/apparel (let alone a face) and then not getting that and being disappointed.

[Spectre slayer]

Clockwork_Wings wrote...

Valadras21 wrote...

Palidane wrote...

I think it was already stated on IGN that there will be character creators for the Warden and Hawke as part of Dragon Age Keep.

I think David Gaider said something to that effect as well, and even if he didn't, that would be my expectation anyway.

I can't see the Warden or Hawke supposedly playing a major role off-screen, or on-screen with their face obscured. If those 2 characters do show up, they have the opportunity to let the player define the way they look via the Keep, and it would be crazy to do anything less imo.

Now what would be especially awesome would be if we could define the way their armor and weapons look that way, too

I wouldn't see why it would be too difficult for it to tell what weapon proficiency they had.  As for weapons and armor, I suspect it'll be one size fits class warden attire. 

The keep thing wasn't said by Gaider it is one their blog about the keep and one of the things it wants to know is how we modified our Wardens and Hawke also about 6 days ago Gaider said if they did appear we will have a say in their import state and their appearance and here's the quote.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: if Hawke and/or the Warden appear, they will not be playable. They are now NPC's. Ideally the player will have a say in their import state (and thus their appearance), but that does not extend to control over their actions following the end of the stories they originally appeared in. That said, I doubt we would go out of our way to have them do things which would be wildly problematic... but that really depends on what one personally considers "wildly problematic", particularly if they have very specific headcanon regarding what they believe their former PC's went on to do

They've said multiple times not to consider things headcanon, and he also said they disappeared no matter what and that if you don't want them to appear if they decide to go that route or if you say not to give them a role or say they won't appear because you say so "To bad".

Again: too bad, sorry. We'll do our best to respect the choices that were made, but take no responsibility for headcanon with regards to what you believe those choices led to after the end of the game in which those characters appeared.

Alan also said they might or might not appear so this is still undecided.

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 17 septembre 2013 - 01:55 .

[FenrirBlackDragon]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

I would suggest a much more prudent course of action is to follow the suggestion Allan has given multiple times on this topic...

Don't expect any appearance at all from the Warden and Hawke. Give zero thought to how they would appear, what they will look like or what effect they will have. Because then, if they show up at all, it will be enjoyable for you. As opposed to putting incredibly unrealistic expectations about The Keep letting you design everything about them, including a costume/apparel (let alone a face) and then not getting that and being disappointed.

I suppose that would be fine. It just seems rather iffy that the beta application asked about character custimization. That's not to say they will include it in the actual beta, but but still...I would actually prefer a codex entry as opposed to an actual appearance (and maybe a few mentions by relevant characters- such as the status of their relationship with Morrigan- friend, enemy, love, etc.).