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[ParatrooperSean]

Matthias King wrote...

ParatrooperSean wrote...

Matthias King wrote...

For what it's worth, I was playing as the Batarian Soldier for a few games earlier today. I chose the Damage Returned evolution at rank 5, and Brutes were charging me left and right, and not a single one got any damage returned to them. Not a bit, let alone 250%

First, thank you Chris for looking into it.

As for not damaging Brutes, on very rare occasion I've actually had Brutes get killed by my Blade Armor when they're on their last thread of life. But most of the time they take no noticable damage. I suspect they simply take less than 1 bar worth of damage, making it appear as if they take zero.

I thought about that, but I did some rough math in my head and this is what I came up with.

I have no numbers on the damage that the Brutes charging melee does, but since it never fails to destroy my full shields, if not more, then that means that it must do at least 825 points of damage, probably more. 

So if we consider the damage to be 825, then if it hits my blade armor, it should take 2062.5 damage, according to my Blade Armor being specc'd for 250% damage returned. 

On Gold, a Brute has 15210 points of base health.  Going by that it should take AT LEAST one bar of his armor off, because each bar is roughly 1521 points. 

In truth, I think the Brute's charging melee probably does more than 825 points of damage.  I'm pretty sure it will take my Batarian's shields all the way down in one hit, which would make it nearly 1500 points.  That means that the damage returned to him would actually be more than 2062.5 points, but you get the idea. 

Oh, there's no question it does far, far less damage than it should. I'm simply saying that I think it does some damage.

[Matthias King]

ParatrooperSean wrote...

Matthias King wrote...

ParatrooperSean wrote...

Matthias King wrote...

For what it's worth, I was playing as the Batarian Soldier for a few games earlier today. I chose the Damage Returned evolution at rank 5, and Brutes were charging me left and right, and not a single one got any damage returned to them. Not a bit, let alone 250%

First, thank you Chris for looking into it.

As for not damaging Brutes, on very rare occasion I've actually had Brutes get killed by my Blade Armor when they're on their last thread of life. But most of the time they take no noticable damage. I suspect they simply take less than 1 bar worth of damage, making it appear as if they take zero.

I thought about that, but I did some rough math in my head and this is what I came up with.

I have no numbers on the damage that the Brutes charging melee does, but since it never fails to destroy my full shields, if not more, then that means that it must do at least 825 points of damage, probably more. 

So if we consider the damage to be 825, then if it hits my blade armor, it should take 2062.5 damage, according to my Blade Armor being specc'd for 250% damage returned. 

On Gold, a Brute has 15210 points of base health.  Going by that it should take AT LEAST one bar of his armor off, because each bar is roughly 1521 points. 

In truth, I think the Brute's charging melee probably does more than 825 points of damage.  I'm pretty sure it will take my Batarian's shields all the way down in one hit, which would make it nearly 1500 points.  That means that the damage returned to him would actually be more than 2062.5 points, but you get the idea. 

Oh, there's no question it does far, far less damage than it should. I'm simply saying that I think it does some damage.

Yea, you may be right, it maybe does some damage, but I think we're in agreement that it does WAAAY less than it's supposed to.  I mean, husks don't even take any noticable damage from it. 

[Bolo Xia]

ParatrooperSean wrote...

Matthias King wrote...

ParatrooperSean wrote...

Matthias King wrote...

For what it's worth, I was playing as the Batarian Soldier for a few games earlier today. I chose the Damage Returned evolution at rank 5, and Brutes were charging me left and right, and not a single one got any damage returned to them. Not a bit, let alone 250%

First, thank you Chris for looking into it.

As for not damaging Brutes, on very rare occasion I've actually had Brutes get killed by my Blade Armor when they're on their last thread of life. But most of the time they take no noticable damage. I suspect they simply take less than 1 bar worth of damage, making it appear as if they take zero.

I thought about that, but I did some rough math in my head and this is what I came up with.

I have no numbers on the damage that the Brutes charging melee does, but since it never fails to destroy my full shields, if not more, then that means that it must do at least 825 points of damage, probably more. 

So if we consider the damage to be 825, then if it hits my blade armor, it should take 2062.5 damage, according to my Blade Armor being specc'd for 250% damage returned. 

On Gold, a Brute has 15210 points of base health.  Going by that it should take AT LEAST one bar of his armor off, because each bar is roughly 1521 points. 

In truth, I think the Brute's charging melee probably does more than 825 points of damage.  I'm pretty sure it will take my Batarian's shields all the way down in one hit, which would make it nearly 1500 points.  That means that the damage returned to him would actually be more than 2062.5 points, but you get the idea. 

Oh, there's no question it does far, far less damage than it should. I'm simply saying that I think it does some damage.

i think you both are saying the same thing and agreeing with each other, just the way you guys are saying it is different  

just a friendly 3rd party view

Modifié par Bolo Xia, 06 novembre 2012 - 04:03 .

[CmnDwnWrkn]

Chris Schanche wrote...

On my list to investigate. Just don't want to comment really until I have more solid information.

Thanks Chris.  This is good news!

[Deerber]

Chris Schanche wrote...

On my list to investigate. Just don't want to comment really until I have more solid information.

Thank you very much! 

[mrcanada]

bump

[Shampoohorn]

b u m p .

edit:  I got a PM from Eric Fagnan today saying they're looking into the bug.

Modifié par Shampoohorn, 07 novembre 2012 - 08:54 .

[rgeshevv]

It would be nice to see BA fixed.

[Arppis]

I'm glad you guys are still supporting this game. Most companies wouldn't.

[tonnactus]

Arppis wrote...

I'm glad you guys are still supporting this game. Most companies wouldn't.

They support it because they get enough money from packs still.

[rgeshevv]

Any news about this subject?

[rgeshevv]

We are still waiting :]

[M A F I A]

I don't know if it is a bug but when the BA is on and you zoom in your weapon it basically obstruct your view, maybe that can be changed as well?

[mrcanada]

Bumping. Hopefully see this addressed this week. Crossing fingers for him to get his own sound clip when charging instead of the Novaguards

[Wookie_Smuggler]

mrcanada wrote...

Bumping. Hopefully see this addressed this week. Crossing fingers for him to get his own sound clip when charging instead of the Novaguards

A bit soon, methinks. It requires rigorous testing before any reworked power/mechanic is implemented. Based on the fact that 7 days ago it was added to a list of possible bugs to verify, I wouldn't expect it to be amongst the weekly balance changes until at least next week.

Then again, I could be wrong.

[rgeshevv]

Bump

[Julian Skies]

Also let me add a note here in case people expect this to be fixed quickly.
This is probably a bit deeper in the damage code than what the usual scope of weekly balance changes can reach. I mean I cannot say for sure, they can surprise us but I expect this to only be fixed by a patch or, at best, a hotfix ala scion damage that will have to receive a proper fix later.

[mrcanada]

Bump

[Beta Commando]

Wow, I knew it was bugged based on my own observations but not as broken as this.

[Blind2Society]

The Batarians need this fixed BioWare!

[Happy Shepard]

Maybe we should do a list of things that work.

Would be very helpful.

[ThatGuyThatPlaysThisGame]

Chris Schanche wrote...

On my list to investigate. Just don't want to comment really until I have more solid information.

Knew all those PSP purchased with real life money would some day make it so BioWare actually worked on a bug that when fixed would help players. 

Happy Shepard wrote...
Maybe we should do a list of things that work.
Would be very helpful.

The list of things that work? That would be veery short. :innocent:

Modifié par ThatGuyThatPlaysThisGame, 19 novembre 2012 - 02:17 .

[CmnDwnWrkn]

mrcanada wrote...

Bumping. Hopefully see this addressed this week. Crossing fingers for him to get his own sound clip when charging instead of the Novaguards

I'm losing hope that anything will get fixed from here on out.  I'm definitely getting the sense that BioWare is winding down their support of this game.

[mrcanada]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

mrcanada wrote...

Bumping. Hopefully see this addressed this week. Crossing fingers for him to get his own sound clip when charging instead of the Novaguards

I'm losing hope that anything will get fixed from here on out.  I'm definitely getting the sense that BioWare is winding down their support of this game.

well I hope the Vorcha Hunter power debacle wakes them up a Bit. It wont stop the Hunter from sucking , but knowing a character works is a start. This really needs to be fixed ASAP, Blade Armor really could be effective on higher difficulties if it worked properly .