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Do you support a revamped priority Earth mission as well as added war asset scenes?[POLLS INCLUDED]


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[quote]AresKeith wrote...

To be fair most games end either with credits or an epilogue scene after those credits, which is what ME3 did unlike ME1 and ME2.
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Because ME1 and ME2 were leading into the next game
[/quote]Yet ME3 is leading into ME4, which means a ME3 revamp wouldn't happen.

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Blueprotoss wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

To be fair most games end either with credits or an epilogue scene after those credits, which is what ME3 did unlike ME1 and ME2.


Because ME1 and ME2 were leading into the next game

Yet ME3 is leading into ME4, which means a ME3 revamp wouldn't happen.

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For the love of cookies I would like a better mission for Earth it was just run in shoot small amounts of smooching and then laser beam boom

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Blueprotoss wrote...

Yet ME3 is leading into ME4, which means a ME3 revamp wouldn't happen.


Not really since ME4 isn't gonna be about Shepard or the Reapers

And this isn't about ME3 its about Priority Earth, which lots a people feel it should be revamped or added on too

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3DandBeyond wrote...

As opposed to the total contradiction of ME1 and 2, and whole parts of ME3 right now.  Heck, the kid contradicts himself when talking and ME3 contradicts Leviathan that contradicts a lot of ME as a whole.  Earth contradicts everything that mattered to the previous games.  Earth was never mentioned much at all in both games-humans were, but Earth not so much.  Saving the galaxy was.

The oly possible scenario that  the Catalyst would contradict itself would be that Soreign or harbinger announcing itself as the Reaper leader.

3DandBeyond wrote...

ME3 should have tied up questions remaining from 1 and 2, not create new questions that they now create DLC for.  Leviathan was created to build up a story that explains the existence of the kid, and once you're done with it Shepard all but forgets that conversation with Leviathan.  ME3 is a mess and there's nothing that bears that out more than trying to retake Earth and getting to the discussion with the kid.

ME3 wouldn't tie up even half of the lose ends because there still is little known about the Reapers and ME hasn't left the Milky Way galaxy to see what the Universe is up to.

3DandBeyond wrote...

The whole idea of Shepard's teammates congregating at the FOB, then doing nothing, phoning friends, then Harbinger overseeing the Normandy evac and those FOB teammates mysteriously ending up back on the Normandy after doing nothing, as well as the whole catalyst conversation-those are some of the worst moments in gaming I've ever experienced.  High points are Liara's gift scene (except it would have been nice to have hint as to what the gift was), ending conversation dialogue with friends (even if contrived), TIM, the evac dialogue with LI, TIM, and refusal speech.  Great voice acting in other narration as well, but really sad it was used for this trash.

Priority Earth isn't really that much different when you look at Retaking the Citadel in ME1 and the Suicide Mission in ME2 as a whole.  If the end of ME3 was really trash then its surpising that some have jumped ship off of the hate from the ending in ME1 and ME2.

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AresKeith wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

Yet ME3 is leading into ME4, which means a ME3 revamp wouldn't happen.


Not really since ME4 isn't gonna be about Shepard or the Reapers

And this isn't about ME3 its about Priority Earth, which lots a people feel it should be revamped or added on too

ME4 isn't about Shepard but it still is a continuation of the series like Nero in Devil May Cry 4, Michael Becket in FEAR 2, John Marstin in Red Dead Redemption, Prototype Big Daddy in Bioshock 2, the long list of antagonists in Resident Evil/Grand Theft Auto/Assassin's Creed, multiple Links in the Zelda series, and the main character in every Fallout/Elder Scroll game to name a few.

ME3 doesn't need to be revamped even I wouldn't say that about ME1, the best in the series, or ME2, the worst in the series.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 21 octobre 2012 - 05:55 .


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Blueprotoss wrote...
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ME3 doesn't need to be revamped even I wouldn't say that about ME1, the best in the series, or ME2, the worst in the series.

*Cough* ME2 is the least best, dude - the least best.

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Obadiah wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...
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ME3 doesn't need to be revamped even I wouldn't say that about ME1, the best in the series, or ME2, the worst in the series.

*Cough* ME2 is the least best, dude - the least best.

I highly doubt that even when ME2 is actually what the "rage" describes what ME3 is.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 22 octobre 2012 - 03:14 .


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I really don't care much about war assets scenes, but I'd definetily support a revamped priority earth, which was, IMO, a very poor final epic battle...

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You forgot the one that Bioware won't do, to make all this worth while.

Shepard having a life with Liara / Tali / Ashley / whichever LI you choose

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Priority Earth should of been more epic than the Suicide Mission and playing Mass Effect one as an overpowered Adept on the most difficult part of the game on insanity combined.

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Priority Earth definitely needs a revamp. Too dull. No music whatsoever, not enough reaper killing, you don't see any of the work you did pay off, and could just be better as a whole. I definitely would support a DLC (paid) that would fix this.

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I always supported this, and i thought it would be in the EC.
How disappointed i was.
Still feels like getting 7000 assets was a complete waste of time, never see them, they don't mean anything and change nothing. But at least make the final mission fun, I expected a suicide mission on steroids and entire armies at my back.
Nope, do everything yourself (Ramirez +50).

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TJBartlemus wrote...

Priority Earth definitely needs a revamp. Too dull. No music whatsoever, not enough reaper killing, you don't see any of the work you did pay off, and could just be better as a whole. I definitely would support a DLC (paid) that would fix this.

Surpisingly Prioty Earth had the most enemies as a final level in the ME series while the rest is opinion even when there was music being played.  To be fair its easy to say you would buy that since its now not later.

BerzerkGene wrote...

I always supported this, and i thought it would be in the EC.
How disappointed i was.
Still feels like getting 7000 assets was a complete waste of time, never see them, they don't mean anything and change nothing. But at least make the final mission fun, I expected a suicide mission on steroids and entire armies at my back.
Nope, do everything yourself (Ramirez +50).

I'm just wondering on when you thought the EC would have done a revamp of Priority Earth because the EC was announced as an explaination with more dialogue and cut scenes.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 23 octobre 2012 - 04:56 .


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they would help the last mission felt rushed. i thoght the battle should have continued on the citidel but thats out of the question because of the ending :(

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Yes.

Fully support this.


I had to force myself to play that bland mission to see Extended Cut endings.

This mission need an overhaul and to be Suicide Mission 2.0.
That's the only way it can get me replay ME3 over and over again.

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I support a revamped franchise, and nothing less.

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i support a revamping of priority earth

i also support the people supporting a revamp of priority earth.

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Am I to understand that people didn't like the whole Earth mission because it wasn't action packed enough? Least from what I've gathered over the course of a few threads. Some people wanted Krogan smashing husks and other races like the Elcor taking on brutes.

Here's the thing about Mass Effect. It's not an action based game. It's a story based game. Action basically takes a backseat, but the main selling point of this series is the story. 

Although something else to consider, that cinematics are a very complex process and would be very costly. So if they were going to do it earlier, they would have. Again, they might not have had the budget for it. Only so much you can put in the game. 

Modifié par magnetite, 26 octobre 2012 - 08:04 .


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magnetite wrote...

Here's the thing about Mass Effect. It's not an action based game. It's a story based game. Action basically takes a backseat, but the main selling point of this series is the story. 

It's like you haven't even played ME3.

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Arcian wrote...

magnetite wrote...

Here's the thing about Mass Effect. It's not an action based game. It's a story based game. Action basically takes a backseat, but the main selling point of this series is the story. 

It's like you haven't even played ME3.


I have played the whole thing. Eight times actually. If people wanted a game with action, just pick any FPS game. If you wanted a game with a great story (which most FPSes and such don't have), you come to Mass Effect. 

Modifié par magnetite, 26 octobre 2012 - 08:07 .


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magnetite wrote...

Am I to understand that people didn't like the whole Earth mission because it wasn't action packed enough? Least from what I've gathered over the course of a few threads. Some people wanted Krogan smashing husks and other races like the Elcor taking on brutes.

Here's the thing about Mass Effect. It's not an action based game. It's a story based game. Action basically takes a backseat, but the main selling point of this series is the story. 


And that is the crux of the matter. For the story to be complete a lot of folks want to see how their decisions pan out in the final battle. As part of the story folks want to see them included. Not everything needs to be action based but even just seeing fighting allies around you would be nice. 

Also the whole of Priority: Earth should be the crescendo to the climax of the story, it should be long, involved, challenging and show everything you've worked for coming to fruition. It's what the story demands, but to be involved in that story you need to partake in the action.

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Nicodemus wrote...

magnetite wrote...

Am I to understand that people didn't like the whole Earth mission because it wasn't action packed enough? Least from what I've gathered over the course of a few threads. Some people wanted Krogan smashing husks and other races like the Elcor taking on brutes.

Here's the thing about Mass Effect. It's not an action based game. It's a story based game. Action basically takes a backseat, but the main selling point of this series is the story. 


And that is the crux of the matter. For the story to be complete a lot of folks want to see how their decisions pan out in the final battle. As part of the story folks want to see them included. Not everything needs to be action based but even just seeing fighting allies around you would be nice. 

Also the whole of Priority: Earth should be the crescendo to the climax of the story, it should be long, involved, challenging and show everything you've worked for coming to fruition. It's what the story demands, but to be involved in that story you need to partake in the action.


And that's where the Earth mission failed, many people wanted it to have some traits of ME2's suicide mission added in it, along with seeing the War Assets we spent the whole game trying to gain in action.

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magnetite wrote...

Am I to understand that people didn't like the whole Earth mission because it wasn't action packed enough? Least from what I've gathered over the course of a few threads.

Here's the thing about Mass Effect. It's not an action based game. It's a story based game. Action basically takes a backseat, but the main selling point of this series is the story.

That's fine and all (though frankly I don't agree at all. Action has taken a backseat? What? It was by far their main selling point by Mass Effect 3, and was hardly some secret side-addition spoken only of in hushed tones before that), but if you're going to have action sequences, they better damn well be up to scratch, because we're slogging through dozens of hours of the thing.

Priority Earth wasn't good enough. The setting was bland. The fights were tedious, frustrating, or both. And in probably the most important part of the game where your amassed assets and allies needed to be demonstrated and actually have a function, we got a few seconds of poorly rendered CGI. The entire sequence just stank of apathy, as though the people creating it had long since had enough and just wanted it done with.

Besides, it's a bit difficult to defend Priority Earth from a story perspective. It's a disasterous mess there, too.

Modifié par bleetman, 26 octobre 2012 - 08:14 .


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magnetite wrote...

Arcian wrote...

magnetite wrote...

Here's the thing about Mass Effect. It's not an action based game. It's a story based game. Action basically takes a backseat, but the main selling point of this series is the story. 

It's like you haven't even played ME3.


I have played the whole thing. Eight times actually. If people wanted a game with action, just pick any FPS game. If you wanted a game with a great story (which most FPSes and such don't have), you come to Mass Effect. 

Mass Effect 1, maybe, but sure as hell not Mass Effect 3.