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[spirosz]

VaultingFrog wrote...


They are violating these core concepts of the Volus species. Altering them, corrupting them if you will, to make them fit into MP.

Lol....

[Rifneno]

spaceling wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

It's funny... all of the complaining from anti-volus people the past few days has illicited approx. 800,000 "lol at the butthurt" and "tears of whiners are delicious" posts. Now it's the pro-volus crowd doing the QQing. I don't know whether that's funnier, or the fact that the anti-volus crowd isn't spouting that stupid "butthurt" thing back.

Isn't kicking volus a pre-emptive sort of butthurt? Like they had to be butthurt to kick and cry to begin with. Just saying.

Only crying and... "butthurt" I'm seeing right now is from the pro-volus crowd because they don't like a fair kick system.

[Ashen One]

Bioware had to know something like this would happen.

[VaultingFrog]

knightshieldatr wrote...

I understand fandom. I participate in a lot of it. ME3's endings dissapointed me, the Abrams Star Trek hurt a lot as a die-hard Star Trek fan. However, ruining someone else's ability to have fun and participate because of your own fandom is selfish, mean, and beyond the pail.

How and I ruining their experience? I am expressing a personal preference not to play with Volus characters and thats it.

If the vote doesnt go through I leave the lobby. If a Volus joins an ongoing game of mine I leave the game. They are still able to play. They are still able to have fun. They still participate, just not with me.

Personal preferences are always selfish. If you think otherwise your just kidding yourself. They wouldnt be personal if they werent selfish.

More over when I vote to kick somebody it takes the others in the lobby to finish kicking them. If they choose not to then I go play elsewhere. Dont demonize me for others actions in kick votes. They have as much a choice as I do. If they choose to kick then so be it. No one individual can be at fault for a kick.

If that is what your saying then you hold no water with me. And if its not then what exactly are you saying? Am I not allowed to express personal preference over the internet? Am I not allowed to enjoy my game the way I wish to? If thats the case then too bad for you as you have no control over how I choose to play the game, nor who I decide to play with.

[tangalin]

VaultingFrog wrote...

Dengarde wrote...

But they AREN'T re-writting it. In ther canon Mass Effect, Volus are still not soldiers. They can't fight, they'd explode if their suits were puncutred, yada yada. They aren't changing ANYTHING.

All they're doing is adding a fun little addition to a part of the game that isn't included in main universe at all. There's absolutely no harm in that.

Like I said. If they added volus soldiers in a conninical part of the story, I would be agreeing with you 100%. But that simply isn;t the case.

In bold you just proved my point. They are not soldiers. They cant fight (or in most cases are too inept to fight). Their suits make them a liability on any world/space station/spaceship other than their own.

They are violating these core concepts of the Volus species. Altering them, corrupting them if you will, to make them fit into MP.

And I am not so sure you understand what even you are saying. If they added Volus soldiers as canon in the SP storyline in any of the three games then I would have absolutely no issue with them being in MP. But that is because it has been established that they do have soldiers capable of performing spec ops missions such as the ones in MP.

As they did not do such a thing (thank goodness since doing it in ME3 would have really messed with some things and turned it into a WTF) it is a violation of their species core history.

Wait, so you are okay with them messing up the lore by suddenly adding them in SP, but if they leave the lore alone and simply add them as a fun diversion in MP (where it has no bearing on lore whatsoever) you fly into a vote kicking rage? Doesn't that seem a little backwards to you? 

[Azrael 007]

Rifneno wrote...

It's funny... all of the complaining from anti-volus people the past few days has illicited approx. 800,000 "lol at the butthurt" and "tears of whiners are delicious" posts. Now it's the pro-volus crowd doing the QQing. I don't know whether that's funnier, or the fact that the anti-volus crowd isn't spouting that stupid "butthurt" thing back.

Back and forth name calling is what this forum is famous for. At least we can all agree that the Turian Ghost is Freakin Amazing!!!!!!
I wish Bioware would just add a little thing on the Volus description. "Blah blah thanks to cybernetic enhancements and genetic augmentation the Volus can now fight alongside our troops blah blah."

[spaceling]

Rifneno wrote...

spaceling wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

It's funny... all of the complaining from anti-volus people the past few days has illicited approx. 800,000 "lol at the butthurt" and "tears of whiners are delicious" posts. Now it's the pro-volus crowd doing the QQing. I don't know whether that's funnier, or the fact that the anti-volus crowd isn't spouting that stupid "butthurt" thing back.

Isn't kicking volus a pre-emptive sort of butthurt? Like they had to be butthurt to kick and cry to begin with. Just saying.

Only crying and... "butthurt" I'm seeing right now is from the pro-volus crowd because they don't like a fair kick system.

Oh give it time. BTW, I'm not butthurt. I just think its a little bit dumb that people are kicking volus. It's almost like an occupy <fill in the blank> protest.

[Schneidend]

r3apz515 wrote...

u bring a Volus to a gold platinum match u get autokicked by me.

go stick it with bronze.

Yeah, wouldn't want healing or debuffs in Gold/Plat. That'd be HORRIBLE!

[robertm2]

the volus adepts are pretty weak. can't take cover, die almost instantly on gold, and shield boost has pretty low radius even when you spec for radius. all in all i wont kick them but if they go down constantly i wont revive them every 10 seconds either and i would not recommend playing them on anything other than bronze and silver.

[Dengarde]

VaultingFrog wrote...

Dengarde wrote...

But they AREN'T re-writting it. In ther canon Mass Effect, Volus are still not soldiers. They can't fight, they'd explode if their suits were puncutred, yada yada. They aren't changing ANYTHING.

All they're doing is adding a fun little addition to a part of the game that isn't included in main universe at all. There's absolutely no harm in that.

Like I said. If they added volus soldiers in a conninical part of the story, I would be agreeing with you 100%. But that simply isn;t the case.

In bold you just proved my point. They are not soldiers. They cant fight (or in most cases are too inept to fight). Their suits make them a liability on any world/space station/spaceship other than their own.

They are violating these core concepts of the Volus species. Altering them, corrupting them if you will, to make them fit into MP.

And I am not so sure you understand what even you are saying. If they added Volus soldiers as canon in the SP storyline in any of the three games then I would have absolutely no issue with them being in MP. But that is because it has been established that they do have soldiers capable of performing spec ops missions such as the ones in MP.

As they did not do such a thing (thank goodness since doing it in ME3 would have really messed with some things and turned it into a WTF) it is a violation of their species core history.

You are COMPLETELY missing my point.

Multi-player =/= canon.

Give me flying krogan babies with guns for butts.

Give me  more protheans.

GIVE ME THE ABILITY TO PLAY AS HARBINGER.

It odes not matter, because the multiplayer is not bound by the laws of lore.

It is not a canon part of the story. It doe not have ANY affect on the lore whatsoever. It is simply there for fun.

What I don't get is why you'd apparently be okay with them doing it in the story. THAT would be completely rewritting it. THAT would be an FU to the series, and yet YOU just claimed you'd be oka with that. Are you even sure about what you're saying anymore?

[Brownfinger]

Played a Silver match with my Volus Adept, and despite keeping everyone alive and topping the score card, was booted after.

Tried Gold, and did quite well, thanks. Stay out of harm, use your squad mates as shields and keep them upright and firing.
It's just so ****ing silly, I can't help but think that the people designing this thing for combat were howling with laughter throughout.

Modifié par Brownfinger, 09 octobre 2012 - 06:36 .

[Xerorei]

I'm not against volus, in fact one joined a lobby I was in, someone immediately voted to kick the level 10 volus adept, out of a gold collector lobby. I let both of the other two know that "Whichever one of you decided to VK the volus, you're a d@#$, try doing collectors as a duo on gold now" and left.

I don't tolerate people trolling when EVERY BODY contributes, you want to have a high horse about volus in MP saying it breaks lore?

Collectors break lore, that's right they break it, ME2 was the end of the collectors.
Batarians break lore, Vorcha break lore. Multiplayer is not about "Lore", you can take your lore and shove it, go back to SP and leave the fun of MP to those of us who enjoy it for what it is, non lore based combat.

[Rifneno]

Xerorei wrote...

I'm not against volus, in fact one joined a lobby I was in, someone immediately voted to kick the level 10 volus adept, out of a gold collector lobby. I let both of the other two know that "Whichever one of you decided to VK the volus, you're a d@#$, try doing collectors as a duo on gold now" and left.

I don't tolerate people trolling when EVERY BODY contributes, you want to have a high horse about volus in MP saying it breaks lore?

Collectors break lore, that's right they break it, ME2 was the end of the collectors.
Batarians break lore, Vorcha break lore. Multiplayer is not about "Lore", you can take your lore and shove it, go back to SP and leave the fun of MP to those of us who enjoy it for what it is, non lore based combat.

QQ.

[Schneidend]

Xerorei wrote...

I'm not against volus, in fact one joined a lobby I was in, someone immediately voted to kick the level 10 volus adept, out of a gold collector lobby. I let both of the other two know that "Whichever one of you decided to VK the volus, you're a d@#$, try doing collectors as a duo on gold now" and left.

I don't tolerate people trolling when EVERY BODY contributes, you want to have a high horse about volus in MP saying it breaks lore?

Collectors break lore, that's right they break it, ME2 was the end of the collectors.
Batarians break lore, Vorcha break lore. Multiplayer is not about "Lore", you can take your lore and shove it, go back to SP and leave the fun of MP to those of us who enjoy it for what it is, non lore based combat.

None of the things you mentioned break lore.

Collectors are mentioned in the codex fighting on Palaven.

I can't even fathom how batarians and vorcha could be lore-breaking.

[masswor5]

Guess I know which character I'm playing now, I played the human soldier when everyone said it sucked...the cycle continues.

[MassEffectBelzac]

People must be stupid to ban volus. They are funny, very capable and supportive and overall very good! And besides you don't want to play with volus then leave lobby by yourself. Don't take fun away from other people! If you ban ppl just because they play as volus, then you are a douche. Volus rock haha!

[Azrael 007]

Brownfinger wrote...

Played a Silver match with my Volus Adept, and despite keeping everyone alive and topping the score card, was booted after.

Tried Gold, and did quite well, thanks. Stay out of harm, use your squad mates as shields and keep them upright and firing.
It's just so ****ing silly, I can't help but think that the people designing this thing for combat were howling with laughter throughout.

I did a silver as a Vol and did great. just did a Gold with one and he kept me alive the entire game. I had to medi-gel once cause I went Rambo.Forget trying to prove something to randoms.  Volus players can add me for some Gold runs anytime.

Modifié par Azrael 007, 09 octobre 2012 - 06:41 .

[VaultingFrog]

tangalin wrote...

VaultingFrog wrote...

And I am not so sure you understand what even you are saying. If they added Volus soldiers as canon in the SP storyline in any of the three games then I would have absolutely no issue with them being in MP. But that is because it has been established that they do have soldiers capable of performing spec ops missions such as the ones in MP.

As they did not do such a thing (thank goodness since doing it in ME3 would have really messed with some things and turned it into a WTF) it is a violation of their species core history.

Wait, so you are okay with them messing up the lore by suddenly adding them in SP, but if they leave the lore alone and simply add them as a fun diversion in MP (where it has no bearing on lore whatsoever) you fly into a vote kicking rage? Doesn't that seem a little backwards to you? 

Read the bolded selection again....

If they added Volus soldiers as canon in the SP storyline (which would in turn modify their basic lore) they would be acceptable in MP.

But as of yet no such modification has been made. Hell I would even take a codex update which elaborates on Volus soldiers taking the fight to alien enemies. That would be more then enough to warrent their inclusion in MP.

And no its not backwards because MP is still founded upon the core ideas that the ME lore established. Violation of those core ideas is not acceptable to me and thats exactly what I see them doing.

How about this, I throw in the Drones from Halo into ME3 MP as a playable character. Its not in lore so it must be acceptable right??? Its just for fun right??? "Fun" is a perspective, not a constant. If you just willy nilly add anything you like to MP with out some sort of lore connection then the game is fundimentally broken as you could have Link fighting Zeus on Feros and Link can use the force while Zeus has a Big Daddy to help him.... See how messed up that crap is?

Yes MP isnt bound by all the same rules as SP but it still needs to follow the core ideas of the universes lore. Adding the Volus in MP violates those ideas.

[Pedactor]

If you could physically kick the soccerball Volus in-match would that not be pleasing enough to not kick them from lobbies?

Because.....lol..........this thread is the best thread ever.

[Yajuu Omoi]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

It has nothing to do with lore.  It has to do with them being an utterly-ridiculous joke.

[Eriseley]

Well this certainly went interesting places.

[Dengarde]

Oh very well.

you seem to be completely dead set on ignoring everything I'm saying, so I'm just gonna do the adult thing and leave.

Have fun unbunching your panties over something so insignificant.

[shodiswe]

Lore states that the Volus has got it's own policeforces(who usualy don't opperate of their homeworld)... Lets just assume these are their swat opperatives equivalent
Maybe they ride with the Volus Bombing fleet?

[CmnDwnWrkn]

tangalin wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Azrael 007 wrote...

VaultingFrog wrote...

meesterevans wrote...

hahahahha autokicking Volus because it doesn't "fit into the lore" man... you people have some SERIOUS growing up to do!

In a fictional video game lore is all you have to go by....

I just made a thread about this. Why are you okay with a Banshee impaling someone then they revive after the wave is done?

That has nothing to do with lore.  Being revived after dying is a common game mechanic that is totally independent of the story.

Having volus in MP has nothing to do with lore. Adding new things to unlock is a common MP mechanic that is totally independent of the story.


See what I did there?

Your argument is that including a character that was introduced and developed in the game's lore has nothing to do with the game's lore.

[Yajuu Omoi]

Dengarde wrote...

It is not a canon part of the story. It doe not have ANY affect on the lore whatsoever. It is simply there for fun.

Then tell me...WHY did BioWare go soo far to make the MP PART of the story if it has nothing to do with the story...?

Modifié par Yajuu Omoi, 09 octobre 2012 - 06:47 .