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[Ironhandjustice]

...starkid, revealing that he is actually harbinger?

Why the hell was the starkid necessary? why not harby himself?

He could be a perfect "IA-First Reaper" without a Deus Ex Machina. The endings will improve massively if Harby was starkid all the time.

I mean, imagine that "yes, yes, I was the first IA, I uploaded myself into the first reaper. I control the others. I am big, I am evil, and I have realized that you can activate this options (one, two, all). Of course, If I have to choose, I recommend you the Sinthesys one. You know. I will not die in this one. I sell you this as best option, now I can't stop you and I haven't any other choice"

And if they give us a refusal victory, or a destroy without genociding, it will be incredible.

Think about it: you can win, you can improve life (if you don't see it creepy, I do so) in order to access all the universe knowledge, or you can became a Machine God usurpating harby's body.

This would be fine for me. The main problem is still the star kid. The secondary problem is that harby stares at you instead of instant killing you. Nope thanks.

If they make an awesome video, where the normandy hits harby, and he misses the shot against sheppard (and starts to follow joker flying away), It makes sense. Adding a phrase like "Normandy, useless, irrelevant" before death beam, it will fit perfectly.

Thoughts?

[Ithurael]

There is not enough art...

[LucasShark]

Burn Starkid with fire... that is all.

[Ithurael]

OR! we could accept the Blender and/or the Cthulhu theory

[CaIIisto]

There's no way on earth that they're ever going to admit that Space Casper was a bad idea. They've backed themselves into a corner with that one. No way out again.

[Ironhandjustice]

LucasShark wrote...

Burn Starkid with fire... that is all.

Starkid is fine ONLY if is a disguise, not a character itself

You know the disguise concept is fine. The WTF is the "The reapers are just toys".

Change it with "The reapers are my minions, and I am the biggest reaper called harbinger" and starkid starts to be tolerable. As disguise, as I said xD

[LucasShark]

Ironhandjustice wrote...

LucasShark wrote...

Burn Starkid with fire... that is all.

Starkid is fine ONLY if is a disguise, not a character itself

You know the disguise concept is fine. The WTF is the "The reapers are just toys".

Change it with "The reapers are my minions, and I am the biggest reaper called harbinger" and starkid starts to be tolerable. As disguise, as I said xD

I disagree: that kid is a horrible idea, even as a disguise, it wasn't a good idea when Stargate SG1 did it, and time hath not sweetened it.

[Ironhandjustice]

Bester76 wrote...

There's no way on earth that they're ever going to admit that Space Casper was a bad idea. They've backed themselves into a corner with that one. No way out again.

Perhaps no. Or perhaps they do.

Casey said they were looking for ideas. This is a simple one.

They need only 10 lines of paragon/renegade dialogue (investigate if you have a lot) and an animation of the normandy hitting harby. Fixed.

"I know who you are"
"Fine Sheppard. Your mind is not so fragile... WE ARE THE HARBINGER. We recognize you as not irrelevant"

[Kel Riever]

Really, what if we just kill the whole appearance of starkid. Which would take no further footage or work?

Aside from the nonsense behavior of wanting to stick with the wrong end of Mass Effect 3, if you simply have victory with no choice (wait for it...you have no choice anyway...) you literally fix the ending. I would like to see the dream of the kid resolved...as a dream.

Now, just because it takes next to no work to fix the ending, and a whole lot of work to make the ending worse with the EC.....doesn't mean the solution still isn't available. I don't expect BioWare to do it, but it would be an answer.

In other news, I hear SWTOR is going so well that it has been announce free to play format within a year of its release. So, you know, Mass Effect isn't the only place where BW is failing.

Honestly, they should just have the ME3 Multiplayer team do everything from now on. You might not like multiplayer, but while buggy, it is much more entertaining by comparison.

[Ithurael]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Ithurael wrote...

OR! we could accept the Blender and/or the Cthulhu theory

I have my own theory?

Not technically but yes

The theory states that - as we all know- Lord Cthulhu sleeps in his house at rlyeh. During the dream state he most likely is kept occupied by the myriad of dreams and thoughts of us mortals. My thought was that - to keep Him asleep and thus preventing the destruction of Earth - Casey and Mac created the ME3 endings to be so ambiguous and open that we would be speculating and speculating non stop. This speculating requires a lot of imagination to perform some of the mental gymnastics needed to make sense of the ending. The imaginations and speculations thus keep Cthulhu ocupied and asleep.

Casey and Mac are our salvation through speculation.

:wizard:

[AresKeith]

We'd also have to deal with the A,B,C type ending

[CaIIisto]

Kel Riever wrote...
Really, what if we just kill the whole appearance of starkid. Which would take no further footage or work?

Yeah, this. 

Just end it with the 'best seats in the house' scene. Some editing, and crucible worked, Reapers destroyed, Shepard dead. Done. Closed.

[Ithurael]

AresKeith wrote...

We'd also have to deal with the A,B,C type ending

Dont' forget D!!

[teh DRUMPf!!]

Ironhandjustice wrote...

...starkid, revealing that he is actually harbinger?

Why the hell was the starkid necessary? why not harby himself?

To show that there's more going on than what meets the eye.

Why the hell is "Miranda Tate" necessary in The Dark Knight Rises?

He could be a perfect "IA-First Reaper" without a Deus Ex Machina. The endings will improve massively if Harby was starkid all the time.

I mean, imagine that "yes, yes, I was the first IA, I uploaded myself into the first reaper. I control the others. I am big, I am evil, and I have realized that you can activate this options (one, two, all). Of course, If I have to choose, I recommend you the Sinthesys one. You know. I will not die in this one. I sell you this as best option, now I can't stop you and I haven't any other choice"

No, this actually makes the circumstances of the ending worse.

Much, much worse. Like 100-fold.

This would be fine for me. The main problem is still the star kid. The secondary problem is that harby stares at you instead of instant killing you. Nope thanks.

He flies off after knocking you out. It stands to reason he thought you were dead.

[Iakus]

Making Starkid into Harbinger wouldn't change anything. The choices remain. Starkid is just a symptom of the problem

[Ironhandjustice]

Sion1138 wrote...

Actually, that's a decent idea. Replace Casper with Harbinger.

Also, let him show us little visions, like those from the beacons, where the inevitability of synthetics destroying organics is demonstrated. It would make the following conversation more sensible and provide some validity to the Reaper's motives.

 A little indoctrination that we resist. Is a very good idea.

Sadly, I don't even expect that the staff read this.

Is a pity, with very little work, they can improve the ending greatly (clarify, as they say)

[AresKeith]

Sion1138 wrote...

Actually, that's a decent idea. Replace Casper with Harbinger.

Also, let him show us little visions, like those from the beacons, where the inevitability of synthetics destroying organics is demonstrated. It would make the following conversation more sensible and provide some validity to the Reaper's motives.

Well in IT Reaper Casper is Harbinger

[futurepixels]

This wouldn't make any sense. The Catalyst created Harbinger.

[Ironhandjustice]

This would be fine for me. The main problem is still the star kid. The secondary problem is that harby stares at you instead of instant killing you. Nope thanks.

He flies off after knocking you out. It stands to reason he thought you were dead.

So, is logical for you that a trillion year old genocidal killing machine obsessed with you did not make a final check that you are dead?

awesome.

[Ironhandjustice]

futurepixels wrote...

This wouldn't make any sense. The Catalyst created Harbinger.

And what is the problem with this?

He created his own body, known as harbinger, using the creators melted paste.

Is weird for u? why?

[Ithurael]

AresKeith wrote...

Sion1138 wrote...

Actually, that's a decent idea. Replace Casper with Harbinger.

Also, let him show us little visions, like those from the beacons, where the inevitability of synthetics destroying organics is demonstrated. It would make the following conversation more sensible and provide some validity to the Reaper's motives.

Well in IT Reaper Casper is Harbinger

Ya cause IT is gonna happen

[Dubozz]

Wish i'd never seen this retarted character. Let's make him invisibe and without sound (and subs). Oh Yeah and let's cut all his dialogues. Oh..f*** it, Let's cut him all together.

[Oxtail Soup]

I have a solution. Shepard's omnitool accidentally recorded the kid on earth, as he hit the 'record hologram' button instead of 'torch' when looking into the vent.
Starkid is in fact a reaper hacking his omnitool, projecting lies and drugging Shepard with faulty medigel to make him delusional.
He later wakes up and realises that the lift scene onwards never happened and in fact the reaper fleet was defeated if he had sufficient war assets. We then get a dlc of the battle in detail, which we can watch and enjoy the victory fleet's success or failure, life and death of various allies and enemies, etc.

Modifié par Oxtail Soup, 09 octobre 2012 - 07:55 .