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#126
Syrus101

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Grlazy wrote...

Aahnold wrote...

I agree with Walhorin.
Before this update I played on Gold difficulty on various maps and succeeded.
Now everyone drops in the earlier waves like flies. It's definately not just me. People with 1000+ N7 rank or even 4000+ die just as fast. Playing public on Gold is not an option anymore. Playing on Silver was never an option. I just hope I and other people adapt get better or else I might just as well quit.

Game is mostly frustrating now rather than fun.


exactly that.
Used to b extracted one out of three golds and when i did i had i huge smile.That made me trying more to get better on it.
Now i am satisfied even when i make it on silver. I can't enjoy it anymore.And i play multiplayer some 3 months only.
Come on Bioware.You destroyed the better part (joy side) .

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I have to agree. I used to play many gold and silver games and since the patches even silver games are hard to do with randoms. I'm not keen to do a pub game unless I am at LEAST with 1 other friend


EDIT: having said that I DO like the new challange to it. but I feel the dificulty is mainly though cheap exploits in the game rather then actual... difficulty..?


the main reason why soo many people fail now is because of the obsurd amount of stuns many enemies produce now. 

eg: Hunters can still shoot (and stun you) while they themselves have been stunned. 

the Prime tri shot stun along with the drone stun now can compleatly paralyse someone.

Scions Stun  2 -3 times with Ravager like damage, prevent shield regen AND are silent, in which that time everything else of the field is free to pick you off while you simply cant move (if your not allreay dead)


ever since the update I havent been keen to do gold games unless I have a full team of friends with me. I only ever did a few Plat games before patch.... hate to see how it is now.

Modifié par Syrus101, 16 octobre 2012 - 01:40 .


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ajirahenry

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I think the new changes in gameplay are a challenge. However, it now forces people to play as something that more resembles a team. No longer can a sniper stay on a high point and rack up points while the rest of the players get in the mix (not that that tactic is wrong, it's just harder to do now).

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BTW, I really hate the possessed abomination explosions.

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I am happy to see the creativity in bringing new classes, new maps, and a new faction into the MP of ME3. However, some changes that have been done in the game I question if they were for the best.

For example the enemies that have new additions seemed to have also been strengthened to unreasonable levels. I was playing in silver with a group of randoms against Geth and I died NINE times, NINE times! I have never died that much if ever in a Silver run! The Geth are very strong unlike what they were before and the Collectors are ridiculously strong and deadly even in a silver run! I understand if there's to be a new challenge brought to the table but Bioware please keep it reasonable! To be honest this new set of difficulties is taking the fun away from the game.

Also another note to Bioware, please fix what's wrong with the game first before nerfing anymore maps, weapons, classes, and what we can do against enemies. There are still glitches that gives the game unfair advantages over us and makes it really hard to enjoy the game itself.

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RecoonHoodie

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Question to Eric Fagnan: So after two new characters with Sabotage will be released, will there be a buff for Sabotage?

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Where are the new balance change notes?

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Chained husk grabs and death over and over
Cant Shadow shadow strike atlas anymore as you know
Cloaks not working well
Difficulty seems to have become nearly impossible (solo/duo) ladyyaya said enough about it

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Am I the only person who isn't whining about how hard it is? I never play Bronze matches, mostly just Silver with the occasional Gold here and there. I don't get extracted probably 20% of the time and within that 20% a few times I don't get extracted is because I will start bleeding out with a few seconds left in the match. To me, Silver matches SHOULD bring up a challenge. Gold matches SHOULD be hard. It seems like people are upset that it isn't easy enough but if you want something with no challenge then why not just stick to Bronze?

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I hate whoever bumped this - totally got my hopes up when I saw a topic with "balance changes" in the title at the very top of the forum.

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verticalrocket wrote...

Am I the only person who isn't whining about how hard it is? I never play Bronze matches, mostly just Silver with the occasional Gold here and there. I don't get extracted probably 20% of the time and within that 20% a few times I don't get extracted is because I will start bleeding out with a few seconds left in the match. To me, Silver matches SHOULD bring up a challenge. Gold matches SHOULD be hard. It seems like people are upset that it isn't easy enough but if you want something with no challenge then why not just stick to Bronze?


Because then they don't think they get enough credits.

I'm sharing your opinion, I think gold is great, and platinum is good as it is. It SHOULD be hard, otherwise it isn't rewarding doing it. Nerfing the hell out of the difficulty isn't the best way to go, the players should instead aspire to reach that difficulty and beating it without help from BW.

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Get fired up wrote...

verticalrocket wrote...

Am I the only person who isn't whining about how hard it is? I never play Bronze matches, mostly just Silver with the occasional Gold here and there. I don't get extracted probably 20% of the time and within that 20% a few times I don't get extracted is because I will start bleeding out with a few seconds left in the match. To me, Silver matches SHOULD bring up a challenge. Gold matches SHOULD be hard. It seems like people are upset that it isn't easy enough but if you want something with no challenge then why not just stick to Bronze?


Because then they don't think they get enough credits.

I'm sharing your opinion, I think gold is great, and platinum is good as it is. It SHOULD be hard, otherwise it isn't rewarding doing it. Nerfing the hell out of the difficulty isn't the best way to go, the players should instead aspire to reach that difficulty and beating it without help from BW.


Hard is good, yes.

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verticalrocket wrote...

Am I the only person who isn't whining about how hard it is? I never play Bronze matches, mostly just Silver with the occasional Gold here and there. I don't get extracted probably 20% of the time and within that 20% a few times I don't get extracted is because I will start bleeding out with a few seconds left in the match. To me, Silver matches SHOULD bring up a challenge. Gold matches SHOULD be hard. It seems like people are upset that it isn't easy enough but if you want something with no challenge then why not just stick to Bronze?


Oh come on, if you come from reliably wiping the ground with the mobs within gold and you go to getting your ass kicked over and over and over and over again on this same difficulty. And there is nothing that you can do except playing either a paladin (cryo boom, fire boom, cryo boom, fire boom, cryo boom, fire boom, and repeat ad nauseum) or a krogan vanguard, melee, melee, shotgun,shotgun, biotic charge, melee melee, shotgun, biotic charge (and naturally this only on geth... stupid sync kills...) and none of the other characters within the game work (that I have unlocked) since you either die before you can move, or you just get overwhelmed by the mobs since your sniper doesn't have the dmg that the paladin can dish out or the survivabilty and ability to recharge the shields that your krogan vanguard has. And i'm not playing on a lower difficulty, the unlocking goes already way to slow.

Now if I could start with everything unlocked, and the only stuff one would get to unlock from playing the game and acquiring credits would be just skins or cosmetic changes, I wouldn't care one flying toss if they made gold into hell on earth. And i'll go back to silver or heck even bronze.

But as it stands now, it just isn't fun untill they reduced the difficulty somewhat. And made other classes have a chance as well. Gold was a challenge before. And platinum is the one after that.

And no, this does not mean you should nerf the paladin or the kroguard...

I do wished though, that we could get a difficulty between platinum and gold where there would be no big bosses, but just the non boss mobs but naturally way more of the little buggers. That could be fun for snipers...

easy farm : 2 kroguards, 2 paladins, UGG.

Modifié par Walhorin, 16 octobre 2012 - 07:58 .


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LeTtRrZ

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This is me still waiting for the balance changes.



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This is me when my sniper rifles get buffs.

Modifié par LeTtRrZ, 16 octobre 2012 - 08:23 .


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So what time in the afternoon usually the multiplayer balance will show out? After 6 o'clock?

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VGFM wrote...

I hate whoever bumped this - totally got my hopes up when I saw a topic with "balance changes" in the title at the very top of the forum.


You and me both.

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BladeLuoxi wrote...

So what time in the afternoon usually the multiplayer balance will show out? After 6 o'clock?


They're usually up first thing in the morning (Pacific).

I'm guessing either a day+ delay, or no changes this week in light of the massive MP changes that went in last week that have to be assessed first.

Modifié par N7 Lisbeth, 16 octobre 2012 - 09:27 .


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vonSlash wrote...

VGFM wrote...

I hate whoever bumped this - totally got my hopes up when I saw a topic with "balance changes" in the title at the very top of the forum.


You and me both.


Agreed.

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Mookiemook85 wrote...

alphawolf35779 wrote...

 when YOU complain about not getting a high enough payout because you "put more effort into it" please take a flying leap into a manhole. This game is entertainment not a job take that crap elsewhere.


everything you just said makes no sense, and telling me to kill myself over a video game is pathetic, you must be really upset that you cant cower behind your desk as much anymore. A role playing game? its a co-op multiplayer.....as in the team struggles when garbage players like yourself have to actually move around and not camp behind a desk now.....this idea of the easiest strategy to win even if its cheesy comes from FPS players who camp in corners and frustrate everyone....stop acting like you hiding behind a damn desk repeatedly on the same map over and over was actually fun, the farming was killing the game because every game searched ended up in firebasewhite with little tryhards like you doing mindless gameplay just to get your shiney new guns and feel like you actually are good at something.

My first sentence about the "when YOU complain" bit was from an earlier part of this discussion having to do with making all the difficulties having the same payout of credits, and the way I stated it was meant to use forshadowing if they ever did in fact change the game in that direction. No, not everyone could see that but nevertheless it explains in layman's terms what I think you would say if that were to happen. As far as my "jump into a manhole" comment goes, your an idiot, it was a figure of speech my dear lass. And the answer to your first sentence is no, it does. The second answer is yes, I miss the back of my counter dreadfully. Seriously bro think for a second (probably pushing your limits on that one), i'm just a guy playing Mass Effect 3 and I don't want to spend excess time playing for low credits sooooo, what do I do? Oh yeah I go on Gold and "exploit" (not glitch or anything that I normaly hate) Firebase White for approximately 5.33 times more credits in about five minutes more give or take on randoms. So why should I and others be "punished" for being smart? It was never "cheating" to begin with, and furthermore I had more fun "farming" Gold than playing Bronze or Silver for alot less and for almost the same time. And no, "camping" came from a certain over hyped game that comes out every year without fail with the initials C.O.D, but that is off topic. Also, you are still wrong, Mass Effect 3 is still an RPG just because they add a multiplayer mode and it happens to be a third person shooter does not make it "co-op multiplayer", that my friend (I use that term very very loosely) IS optional, that IS not the game. How misguided you are, I do like shiny new guns but the premium boxes gave me almost all but premium items I just played alot, and most off my unlocks are from when I played Silver, before I discovered that "technique" on Firebase White. And I am good at the game just because I like "support" styled gameplay does not make me "try hard" nor bad at the game I am just not an aggressive player. Well I believe this grand ole' wall of text is enough but if I ever need help farming I'll grab your mom because she is a dirty ho. Now that's funny, a little distasteful, but funny nevertheless. And for the community I am sorry for taking up so much room for one arrogant human being, and to those who were generally frustrated with "my shenanigans" on Firebase White I apologize for playing the game I did spend sixty dollars on (no sarcasm intended).

Modifié par alphawolf35779, 19 octobre 2012 - 12:24 .


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Difficulty is good but with REASONABLE amounts! I'm not saying to make it easy as pie but make it so where we can actually use the best of all classes and have a chance at winning either with friends or with randoms.

Dying all the time sucks! Even if a person revives my character I'm instantly mobbed and killed again! If the difficulty levels are going to be up then give a range of balance and fix the problems that give the game unfair advantages over the players.

I don't believe it's fair for people who have paid $60-$80 for the game just to have the fun sucked out of it due to changes that had been made without much thought in mind. It's a game, it's supposed to be fun not work!