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A stupid, stupid, stupid question. Are either of the turians female? + Largely civil discussion on female characters past present and future.


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Rebel_Raven

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I'm pretty sure I already know the answer to the question, but I'm just crazy enough to ask about the new Turians.

Don't have them unlocked, the new descriptions are fairly ambiguos. I'm reaching out to those lucky people who have one, or both already.

Modifié par Rebel_Raven, 11 octobre 2012 - 10:37 .


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Male according to the in-game voices.

Unless female Turians just happen to sound exactly like their male counterparts that is.

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No.

Tell us again, how angry that makes you.

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Ashen Earth wrote...

No.

Tell us again, how angry that makes you.

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Rebel_Raven

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Ashen Earth wrote...

No.

Tell us again, how angry that makes you.

Nah, I won't soapbox, rant, and tirade.

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I heard that the Volus are women, or at least transvestites. Their suits have clearly feminine fashion!

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Aarek wrote...

Male according to the in-game voices.

Unless female Turians just happen to sound exactly like their male counterparts that is.


Anyone feel free to correct me with proof if I'm wrong here, but I recall bioware saying female turians look and sound identical to males.  If that's the case, they'd be a lot like Tolkien's Dwarves.  A turian could easily see a female turian, but to everyone else it just looks like a male turian.  That's my guess/shot in the dark that I'm too lazy to look up to make sure.

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Female Volus? Where?

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Rebel_Raven wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

No.

Tell us again, how angry that makes you.

Nah, I won't soapbox, rant, and tirade.


I understand your pain. I was also hoping to see the females fighting. After all, they gave a treat to all those that wanted Volus...

However, that Turian Havoc soldier is quite sexy. Wouldn't trade him for a female. ^_^

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Not sure about Ghost (don't have it yet) but Havoc doesn't even get any new lines, it's the same voice and soudbytes that we already had on the turian soldier/sentinel. I wasn't too optimistic about getting lady turians but at least give us a new sexy male turian voice to listen to. Bring back Lorik!

Modifié par leonia42, 09 octobre 2012 - 09:29 .


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Rebel_Raven

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Rebel_Raven wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

No.

Tell us again, how angry that makes you.

Nah, I won't soapbox, rant, and tirade.


Ya know what? I take it back. I am going to vent.

Also, thanks for being a jerk about it.

It's just not healthy to hold it in, and I don't see the harm. It's not like people at bioware will read, or care about it. The only reason they would is if it got reported, and I swore up a storm, and broke several rules.

This thread will no doubt be on page 5 by tomorrow.

I could sum up my rant into 1 crass 2 word phrase that could get me banhammered, but I won't.

To those people who don't care, or wanna troll? Lets just get it out of the way, and say I don't care. You'll be lucky if I did more than skim your post.

To those small minded people that don't grasp the importance of being a female to me in a game, I tell ya what? Why don't you post when you've spent several decades with the majority of game protagonists FEMALE ONLY until the point you're sick of it. Having to scrape, and scrounge the console game market for a shooter where you can be your gender? Nevermind digging, and researching for a decent game where you don't have to be the other gender?

I'm goddamned disgusted at Bioware. Look how mass Effect 3 MP started! Genders were balanced, and they cared to keep it that way! There was a good amount of gender in every class. Hell, I was surprised to see a female soldier! God knows that those are onoxiously rare in the world of gaming!

Now? Thank you, Bioware for falling into the typical routine of other developers. Adding male character after male character.  Overlooking potential for more female soldiers. It's a small miracle you gave enough of a **** to make a female Sentinel.

2 Asari added at some unknown date? BIG DEAL! THERE'S 14 GUYS!! Way to tokenize the Asari!
Two is not enough! And I wager they're using recycled powers, appearances, and voices, too!
They'll no doubt under perform compared to the majority of the characters. Lack luster, and overlooked for a reason.

Thanks a -lot- for killing the spirit of mass effect where it didn't matter what your gender was. Men, and women could be soldiers, or infiltrators, or what have you, and one wasn't superior than the other.
It figures. I knew it'd come down to it. I got some false security out of Earth Pack, though not enough to absolve my distrust, thankfully.
In honestly I shouldn't have had any new faith in the company. Honestly, I shouldn't ever have faith in Bioware again. It's just going to get the rug pulled out from under it in the next DLC.

PROVE ME WRONG! I DARE YOU! PROVE IT! I triple dog dare you. <.<

But I really doubt you will. I don't care anymore. Unless the Asari are excruciatingly awesome, or to my surprise there's more women than those 2, I think I'll just stop playing, full stop.

You're snuffing out why I LOVED Mass Effect. You're breaking this gamer's heart.

If I wanted to play as a guy I'd play pretty much the any of the rest of the shooters to come out.
But the crazy as hell thing is, I DON'T WANT TO.

Don't you understand you had a niche in the gaming community covered in having playable women in a shooter? Of course not!  You might've pretended to give a damn in the beginning, but it's obvious I shouldn't have had faith in you lot.

So, what BS excuses do you have? Time? Money? Work? target audience? C'mon, give me the typical crap developers shovel out! WAY TO SELL OUT!

People wonder why I'm so cynical, bitter, and jaded towards the gaming world? Really? <.<

I have a novel idea, Bioware! Why don't you just go ahead and put the nail in the coffin of the series and just not add any more women to MP at all? Why are you bothering?
How much of that artistic integrity has MP lost? 

I KNOW! BEST IDEA EVAR!!! Cut women out of single player in ME4, too! Male Shep all the way! hurray! I KNOW! Let the new male shep be assorted alien species! ALL MALE!! Who cares about character creation for women? Mirror all the other game companies!

You may as well replace the Asari with Phoenix models, or I dunno, male Quarians. Ya know, the male quarians the HYPOCRATICAL BSN board clammored for, yet when people want female versions of alien species get snubbed?
Go ahead. pour more salt into the wounds! Cater to the mysogynistic boys out there! Hurray!

Why give us hope in seeing innovative female characters (ya know, adding more women in general at regular intervals? Not like anyone else has the balls to!) only to just show we shouldn't have any?

I'm done trying to defend Bioware until they give me a reason to defend them.

Speaking of rubbing salt into the wound, thanks a lot for giving SOOOO much to the weapon classes, and not a damn thing to the casters, apparently. Thank you, ever so much, for snubbing adding meaningful things to the vast majority of female characters in the game. I'd pretend I was surprised but after seeing the latest additions, it's just token offerings, and bones thrown.

I was honestly considering buying the Trilogy pack! I WAS REALLY WANTING IT! After migrating from 360 to PS3 with my mass effect I was kinda missing having the ME1 decisions in my story!

Right now, forget it. I don't care anymore. I thought I'd spend a few more dollars on the store, too! To hell with that!

If you're just going to fall into the habit of alienating me, and like minded individuals, you can go join the rest of the game companies I don't care about anymore.

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duffpastorius

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That time of the month^

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Turian women could easily be mistaken for men if their voices weren't so deep. :P

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Welp, no Turian female mp character for you.

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duffpastorius wrote...

That time of the month^

That was seriously uncalled for, dude. Grow up.

On topic, I seriously did want Turian ladies. They're my favorite race, and they make sense lore wise. I would say the laziness is acceptable due to the Collectors being added, but this and the lack of new powers(outside of volus and turians) is sort of disappointing.

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Marauder-Shields wrote...

Turian women could easily be mistaken for men if their voices weren't so deep. :P


I-frikking-ronic that someone named Marauder Shields posts in this thread, no offense.

The iconic marauder shields tried to protect me from the crap endings in Mass Effect 3, but I just went on blindly. the endings? They were okay both pre, and post DLC.

I should've suspected the ending wasn't the one I expected. It's the end of the more gender equal spirit of mass effect. A deathknell to a beacon of light in the blighted universe of gaming full of tatooted albino men with huge muscles being crammed down the throats of the world.

With the death of my shepard, and the end of a plot I enjoyed, comes the inevitable death of the spirit that brought me to the game, and freed me from the shackles of the bull**** shoveled my way.

Modifié par Rebel_Raven, 09 octobre 2012 - 11:46 .


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some of the people in here need to grow up

I agree with you OP, I wouldn't mine having more female characters especially female Turians, Krogan, or human really

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Uchimura wrote...

Female Volus? Where?

Nice Avatar.  Hah!  You rock.  I laughed out loud.  
:P

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BlazingShrapnel wrote...

duffpastorius wrote...

That time of the month^

That was seriously uncalled for, dude. Grow up.

On topic, I seriously did want Turian ladies. They're my favorite race, and they make sense lore wise. I would say the laziness is acceptable due to the Collectors being added, but this and the lack of new powers(outside of volus and turians) is sort of disappointing.

No, it's not acceptable any more. Female Krogan models exist in game, and no doubt the new quarian is the male model only.

They could've just reshaped the turian helmet, and added a synthed female voice, and I would've gladly accepted her as a female turian. It would've been really refreshing.

They have the resources to add women just like they tossed in a few Asari. The problem is they didn't use it.

I'm done making excuses for them, and doen taking their excuses. They're just like allll the other game companies these days. I can't expalin why earth was balanced. It's like some fluke.

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OP -- don't give up hope, maybe some of the characters still awaiting release will be female. BioWare listens to us, they have probably heard what you have to say.  Plus, I don't think your question was stupid.  

Modifié par Grinch57, 09 octobre 2012 - 11:54 .


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Grinch57 wrote...

OP -- don't give up hope, maybe some of the characters still awaiting release will be female. BioWare listens to us, they have probably heard what you have to say.


Yea but it should be common sense for Bioware to know that female gamers are gonna want female characters, especially for a game like Mass Effect when some of the races do have females who are willing to fight

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You want to play a woman? There are plenty of female characters in MP.

Human Adept (Female).
Human Soldier (Female).
Human Engineer (Female).
Human Sentinel (Female).
Human Infiltrator (Female).
Human Vanguard (Female).
Human Shadow (Female).
Human Fury (Female).
Human Demolisher (Female).
Quarian Engineer (Female).
Quarian Infiltrator (Female).
Asari Adept (Female).
Asari Justicar (Female).
Asari Sentinel (Female).
Asari Vanguard (Female).

Women are soooo underrepresented in Mass Effect.


...oh wait. Pointless complaining is pointless.

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Grinch57 wrote...

OP -- don't give up hope, maybe some of the characters still awaiting release will be female. BioWare listens to us, they have probably heard what you have to say.


They had a really nice shot at adding a female Krogan as the adept. Ya know, since women obviously can't be tanky heavy weapons experts in a world where a human can have the shields of a krogan, they should be logistical, and power spammey. Like an Adept! <.<

They didn't. The only Krogan in the DLC is pretty much a vanguard with diffirent powers.

They have chance after chance, and they just toss up their hands and say "nah, just make'em a dude. No one will care!"

My hopes are shot, dead, and buried in the back yard.

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I'm basically on board with this rant. The time and resources devoted to developing the whoopie cushion practical joke that is the Volus could've been devoted to giving us some more female kits.

I think Bioware simply made an unfortunate design decision here. Alienating hardcore fans like Rebel Raven so that you could feed the clamoring masses their Volus...

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AresKeith wrote...

Grinch57 wrote...

OP -- don't give up hope, maybe some of the characters still awaiting release will be female. BioWare listens to us, they have probably heard what you have to say.


Yea but it should be common sense for Bioware to know that female gamers are gonna want female characters, especially for a game like Mass Effect when some of the races do have females who are willing to fight

I agree, that's why I say to not give up hope.  BioWare isn't stupid and they don't seem to lack common sense (except of course for the SP endings in ME 3:devil:), so I am saying, let's see what rolls out in the next few weeks, there may be some slick female characters for everyone to play.

Rebel_Raven wrote...

They had a really nice shot at adding a female Krogan as the adept. Ya know, since women obviously can't be tanky heavy weapons experts in a world where a human can have the shields of a krogan, they should be logistical, and power spammey. Like an Adept! <.<

They didn't. The only Krogan in the DLC is pretty much a vanguard with diffirent powers.

They have chance after chance, and they just toss up their hands and say "nah, just make'em a dude. No one will care!"

My hopes are shot, dead, and buried in the back yard.

OP, perhaps your hopes will be resurrected in the coming weeks.  Maybe for Halloweeen (night of the living dead hopes)?  I don't have any inside info, I am just hopeful for you and others to get some new female characters to play.  Perhaps BioWare could weigh in and at least hint if some of the future characters are female.

Modifié par Grinch57, 10 octobre 2012 - 12:03 .