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[OB Juan]

I don't read the entire forum, because there's so much of it. But I must have missed *all* the threads from guys complaining because they didn't want to play female Quarians or Asari or because the Fury is so awesome but there's no male. Do those threads exist? The OP keeps making the claim that guys are always complaining about this and we would never accept that and we're all demanding only male characters, but I don't think that's true, is it?

The Asari Vanguard and the Fury are the classes I play most, only because of skillset. If some guy adept comes along who has grenades and makes things go boom, I'll play him. Or I'll play that character even if it's a female Turian. And I very honestly believe that is the attitude of 99.9 percent of the guys here. Am I wrong?

[Rebel_Raven]

[quote]Major Durza wrote...

I'm just gonna paraphrase here, only putting up your quote that I want to address:

[quote]Rebel_Raven wrote...
To those small minded people that don't grasp the importance of being a female to me in a game, I tell ya what? Why don't you post when you've spent several decades with the majority of game protagonists FEMALE ONLY until the point you're sick of it. Having to scrape, and scrounge the console game market for a shooter where you can be your gender? Nevermind digging, and researching for a decent game where you don't have to be the other gender?
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I hear ya there, I can sympathize.  I prefer not to play as female characters since I am male, I can understand your frustration.
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I appreciate it.

[quote]Major Durza wrote...

[quote]Rebel_Raven wrote...
2 Asari added at some unknown date? BIG DEAL! THERE'S 14 GUYS!! Way to tokenize the Asari!
Two is not enough! And I wager they're using recycled powers, appearances, and voices, too!
They'll no doubt under perform compared to the majority of the characters. Lack luster, and overlooked for a reason.
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The Valkyrie and the Huntress are powerful.  If memory serves right, Tech Armor, Ahilation Field, and Warp.  Slower, more defensive Fury basically.
Huntress.  Tactical Cloak, Dark Channel, Warp.  That is quite the punch, its aggressive.
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Yeah, but they're both basically glass cannons, and neither are the weapon specialists most soldiers are.
They'll likely be extremely slow killers vs weapons classes who can melt bosses far far faster. Killing peons? anyone can do that, and a powerful weapon that those 2 classes can't use, and be efficient are likely to suffer like most every power lobber.

[quote]Major Durza wrote...
[quote]Rebel_Raven wrote...
Unless the Asari are excruciatingly awesome, or to my surprise there's more women than those 2, I think I'll just stop playing, full stop.
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Shaman has a chance, since they do have a Krogan female in the game, and the Shaman is armored.
I wouldn't hope too much for the rest, since Krogan and Salarians are the only non-humaniod race(well, you know what I mean) to have females.  It is unlikely that they will introduce females of any given gender in MP.  Then again, they might be armored.  Turian Saboteur has a chance of being female, I hope so.
We didn't see the Quarian Marksman, and there have been many complaints in the past of Male Quarians surpassing the females.[/quote]
Cyonan looked through the files. It's pretty certain the krogan in the DLC is male.
Odds are high all turians are going to be male, too.

As for the male quarians, yeah, not only are they the only instance where an alien species has shown both genders, but it's so that males are represented, too, and they're arguably far more potent in combat than the female counterparts. It really rubs salt in the wound.

I'ev said it earlier, Tali had a DLC outfit with a HUD on her face plate. Would've been a far more convincing marksman appearance.

[quote]Major Durza wrote...
[quote]Rebel_Raven wrote...
So, what BS excuses do you have? Time? Money? Work? target audience? C'mon, give me the typical crap developers shovel out! WAY TO SELL OUT!
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Unlikely that we are going to see Batarian or Drell females, since they are unlikey to figure out how to portray them.  How does one make a Batarian female?  Or a drell, do you just slap the figure on and call it a day?  Well, furries do, but we do not want to go there.
Hard to portray.  Or at least, in a manner acceptable to the community.[/quote]
I agree that batarian, and drell female will be hard to portray, but there's always Female Krogan. A very nice shortcut there.
Female turian? Reshape the helmet, maybe tweak the size, and make a more feminine voice, and I don't think anyone would cry foul.

[quote]Rebel_Raven wrote...
You may as well replace the Asari with Phoenix models, or I dunno, male Quarians. Ya know, the male quarians the HYPOCRATICAL BSN board clammored for, yet when people want female versions of alien species get snubbed?[/quote]
Because Quarians are suited humanoids, easy to portray.  They even have the same profiles as humans, its easuy.  As I said earlier, portraying a Batarian or Drell female would be difficult.  Turian female, maybe not so much.  Again, hoping that the Krogan Shaman and Turian Sabeteur are female at least.  Quarian Marksman, I think that one is likely to be female.
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Batarians are very humanoid aren't they? Looking at the back of their heads, I've often mistook some for human units. A helmet might fix the issue since batarians wear armor.

Drell? They're very human in shape, too. Making them female, however would be more difficult. they dress uniquely, and the head would likely not be covered.

Quarian Marksman's icon is the guy. I doubt the can change that without a patch that'll be too expensive to put out just for that one issue. Plus marksman has Tac Scan. Heaven knows a woman can't have that power.

I'll probably have to bide my time for several months until teh next DLC and pray I get lucky, or put up with the 2 Asari (provided I ever get them) while watching so many people enjoy male characters.

[Omnifarious Nef]

Rebel_Raven wrote...

Rebel_Raven wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

No.

Tell us again, how angry that makes you.

Nah, I won't soapbox, rant, and tirade.

Ya know what? I take it back. I am going to vent.

Also, thanks for being a jerk about it.

It's just not healthy to hold it in, and I don't see the harm. It's not like people at bioware will read, or care about it. The only reason they would is if it got reported, and I swore up a storm, and broke several rules.

This thread will no doubt be on page 5 by tomorrow.

I could sum up my rant into 1 crass 2 word phrase that could get me banhammered, but I won't.

To those people who don't care, or wanna troll? Lets just get it out of the way, and say I don't care. You'll be lucky if I did more than skim your post.

To those small minded people that don't grasp the importance of being a female to me in a game, I tell ya what? Why don't you post when you've spent several decades with the majority of game protagonists FEMALE ONLY until the point you're sick of it. Having to scrape, and scrounge the console game market for a shooter where you can be your gender? Nevermind digging, and researching for a decent game where you don't have to be the other gender?

I'm goddamned disgusted at Bioware. Look how mass Effect 3 MP started! Genders were balanced, and they cared to keep it that way! There was a good amount of gender in every class. Hell, I was surprised to see a female soldier! God knows that those are onoxiously rare in the world of gaming!

Now? Thank you, Bioware for falling into the typical routine of other developers. Adding male character after male character.  Overlooking potential for more female soldiers. It's a small miracle you gave enough of a **** to make a female Sentinel.

2 Asari added at some unknown date? BIG DEAL! THERE'S 14 GUYS!! Way to tokenize the Asari!
Two is not enough! And I wager they're using recycled powers, appearances, and voices, too!
They'll no doubt under perform compared to the majority of the characters. Lack luster, and overlooked for a reason.

Thanks a -lot- for killing the spirit of mass effect where it didn't matter what your gender was. Men, and women could be soldiers, or infiltrators, or what have you, and one wasn't superior than the other.
It figures. I knew it'd come down to it. I got some false security out of Earth Pack, though not enough to absolve my distrust, thankfully.
In honestly I shouldn't have had any new faith in the company. Honestly, I shouldn't ever have faith in Bioware again. It's just going to get the rug pulled out from under it in the next DLC.

PROVE ME WRONG! I DARE YOU! PROVE IT! I triple dog dare you. <.<

But I really doubt you will. I don't care anymore. Unless the Asari are excruciatingly awesome, or to my surprise there's more women than those 2, I think I'll just stop playing, full stop.

You're snuffing out why I LOVED Mass Effect. You're breaking this gamer's heart.

If I wanted to play as a guy I'd play pretty much the any of the rest of the shooters to come out.
But the crazy as hell thing is, I DON'T WANT TO.

Don't you understand you had a niche in the gaming community covered in having playable women in a shooter? Of course not!  You might've pretended to give a damn in the beginning, but it's obvious I shouldn't have had faith in you lot.

So, what BS excuses do you have? Time? Money? Work? target audience? C'mon, give me the typical crap developers shovel out! WAY TO SELL OUT!

People wonder why I'm so cynical, bitter, and jaded towards the gaming world? Really? <.<

I have a novel idea, Bioware! Why don't you just go ahead and put the nail in the coffin of the series and just not add any more women to MP at all? Why are you bothering?
How much of that artistic integrity has MP lost? 

I KNOW! BEST IDEA EVAR!!! Cut women out of single player in ME4, too! Male Shep all the way! hurray! I KNOW! Let the new male shep be assorted alien species! ALL MALE!! Who cares about character creation for women? Mirror all the other game companies!

You may as well replace the Asari with Phoenix models, or I dunno, male Quarians. Ya know, the male quarians the HYPOCRATICAL BSN board clammored for, yet when people want female versions of alien species get snubbed?
Go ahead. pour more salt into the wounds! Cater to the mysogynistic boys out there! Hurray!

Why give us hope in seeing innovative female characters (ya know, adding more women in general at regular intervals? Not like anyone else has the balls to!) only to just show we shouldn't have any?

I'm done trying to defend Bioware until they give me a reason to defend them.

Speaking of rubbing salt into the wound, thanks a lot for giving SOOOO much to the weapon classes, and not a damn thing to the casters, apparently. Thank you, ever so much, for snubbing adding meaningful things to the vast majority of female characters in the game. I'd pretend I was surprised but after seeing the latest additions, it's just token offerings, and bones thrown.

I was honestly considering buying the Trilogy pack! I WAS REALLY WANTING IT! After migrating from 360 to PS3 with my mass effect I was kinda missing having the ME1 decisions in my story!

Right now, forget it. I don't care anymore. I thought I'd spend a few more dollars on the store, too! To hell with that!

If you're just going to fall into the habit of alienating me, and like minded individuals, you can go join the rest of the game companies I don't care about anymore.

*Insert juvenile "There's girls on the Internet?!" phrase here*

......... *Begins slow clap* ....... Fan-F#%@ing-tastic that post. Will you marry me?

Modifié par NeferiusX3, 10 octobre 2012 - 11:10 .

[Cthulu_Cuddler]

Cry more. It's like the SWTOR fans freaking out for no same sex relationships in game.
I s'pose I can see the point of wanting to play a character that's your gender (I acknowledge and know what you mean with the male protagonist taking the spotlight in the industry) but really, does it matter that much if the character is well written/fun to play?
Stop fretting over the gender of your pixels cause guess what.....IT'S A GAME!

[Ashen One]

Cthulu_Cuddler wrote...

Cry more. It's like the SWTOR fans freaking out for no same sex relationships in game.

Don't encourage her.

[Rebel_Raven]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Rebel_Raven wrote...

So if you don't care about gender, why are you going out of your way to object towards, and/or belittle my goal anyhow?

Because your execution is ridiculous, hypocritical, stereotypical and hilarious all at the same time.

But mostly because I wanted to see if you were going to type up a dissertation on gender equality in response to the lack of a female voiceover in an expansion to a game's tacked on Multiplayer, with a relatively small active community.

... I was right.

Hey, I admit my motives, and means aren't pure, but I've been trying to be pure, and reasonable about it since before earth DLC on these forums. I may not be the most emotionally stable either, but I'm not obthered because blowing up doesn't happen often.

I don't mind typing a lot, either. It comes more naturally than throwing out short blurbs.

As I stated before, I've used asking nicely as a method since before earth, and look at all the wonderful progress I've gotten! No new female soldier, no new female weapon's platform, no new high durability female.
No new female alien species.

I've made 0 progress. Volus got added before my idea. Lovely. I'm not against VOlus, but I thought my ideas were easier to swallow.

I may have to shout off the heads of Bioware to get anywhere. If that's the case, then well, I might just resort to it.

I'm probably wasting my breath being good or bad about it, but I'm not going to shut up about it until it happens, good or bad in methods.

Further, the community might be small here, but short of directly mailing Bioware, this is as close to Bioware's ear as I can get. If I can garner support of the small community here, it certainly won't hurt. Luckily I there are supporters for more alien species. Not supporters of me, but the idea I'm presenting. That's just fine.

[Rebel_Raven]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Cthulu_Cuddler wrote...

Cry more. It's like the SWTOR fans freaking out for no same sex relationships in game.

Don't encourage her.

It's a story discussion. Not related to MP. There'll be no battle lines drawn over that by me to say the least.

[Omnifarious Nef]

Rebel_Raven wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Rebel_Raven wrote...

So if you don't care about gender, why are you going out of your way to object towards, and/or belittle my goal anyhow?

Because your execution is ridiculous, hypocritical, stereotypical and hilarious all at the same time.

But mostly because I wanted to see if you were going to type up a dissertation on gender equality in response to the lack of a female voiceover in an expansion to a game's tacked on Multiplayer, with a relatively small active community.

... I was right.

Hey, I admit my motives, and means aren't pure, but I've been trying to be pure, and reasonable about it since before earth DLC on these forums. I may not be the most emotionally stable either, but I'm not obthered because blowing up doesn't happen often.

I don't mind typing a lot, either. It comes more naturally than throwing out short blurbs.

As I stated before, I've used asking nicely as a method since before earth, and look at all the wonderful progress I've gotten! No new female soldier, no new female weapon's platform, no new high durability female.
No new female alien species.

I've made 0 progress. Volus got added before my idea. Lovely. I'm not against VOlus, but I thought my ideas were easier to swallow.

I may have to shout off the heads of Bioware to get anywhere. If that's the case, then well, I might just resort to it.

I'm probably wasting my breath being good or bad about it, but I'm not going to shut up about it until it happens, good or bad in methods.

Further, the community might be small here, but short of directly mailing Bioware, this is as close to Bioware's ear as I can get. If I can garner support of the small community here, it certainly won't hurt. Luckily I there are supporters for more alien species. Not supporters of me, but the idea I'm presenting. That's just fine.

This, as they say, if you ****** and moan loud enough, eventually someone is going to comeover and see what all the fuss is about. If you sit back kindly and ask quietly, they're not going to get up and come over to listen to you.

[Rebel_Raven]

NeferiusX3 wrote...

Rebel_Raven wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Rebel_Raven wrote...

So if you don't care about gender, why are you going out of your way to object towards, and/or belittle my goal anyhow?

Because your execution is ridiculous, hypocritical, stereotypical and hilarious all at the same time.

But mostly because I wanted to see if you were going to type up a dissertation on gender equality in response to the lack of a female voiceover in an expansion to a game's tacked on Multiplayer, with a relatively small active community.

... I was right.

Hey, I admit my motives, and means aren't pure, but I've been trying to be pure, and reasonable about it since before earth DLC on these forums. I may not be the most emotionally stable either, but I'm not obthered because blowing up doesn't happen often.

I don't mind typing a lot, either. It comes more naturally than throwing out short blurbs.

As I stated before, I've used asking nicely as a method since before earth, and look at all the wonderful progress I've gotten! No new female soldier, no new female weapon's platform, no new high durability female.
No new female alien species.

I've made 0 progress. Volus got added before my idea. Lovely. I'm not against VOlus, but I thought my ideas were easier to swallow.

I may have to shout off the heads of Bioware to get anywhere. If that's the case, then well, I might just resort to it.

I'm probably wasting my breath being good or bad about it, but I'm not going to shut up about it until it happens, good or bad in methods.

Further, the community might be small here, but short of directly mailing Bioware, this is as close to Bioware's ear as I can get. If I can garner support of the small community here, it certainly won't hurt. Luckily I there are supporters for more alien species. Not supporters of me, but the idea I'm presenting. That's just fine.

This, as they say, if you ****** and moan loud enough, eventually someone is going to comeover and see what all the fuss is about. If you sit back kindly and ask quietly, they're not going to get up and come over to listen to you.

Yeah, no kidding.
I honestly prefer to be civil, but a lot of my attempts to be nice haven't drawn much, if any attention. They certainly haven't worked.

[Cyonan]

Rebel_Raven wrote...

Cyonan looked through the files. It's pretty certain the krogan in the DLC is male.
Odds are high all turians are going to be male, too.

Quarian Marksman's icon is the guy. I doubt the can change that without a patch that'll be too expensive to put out just for that one issue. Plus marksman has Tac Scan. Heaven knows a woman can't have that power.

Unless the Turian Engineer is a female who sounds a lot like a man, then the Engineer is a male.

Quarian Marksman could have an icon swap I believe from a simple Coalesced change. Not sure if they can do a model swap without a patch though. Either way I wouldn't expect it to happen for this DLC.

Cthulu_Cuddler wrote...

Cry more. It's like the SWTOR fans freaking out for no same sex relationships in game.
I s'pose I can see the point of wanting to play a character that's your gender (I acknowledge and know what you mean with the male protagonist taking the spotlight in the industry) but really, does it matter that much if the character is well written/fun to play?
Stop fretting over the gender of your pixels cause guess what.....IT'S A GAME!

Not even close to being like that. Also those people made less sense since Bioware said they were working on adding the exact thing they were complaining about not having. In this case they've not come out and said "next DLC will be female heavy".

[Rebel_Raven]

Cyonan wrote...

Rebel_Raven wrote...

Cyonan looked through the files. It's pretty certain the krogan in the DLC is male.
Odds are high all turians are going to be male, too.

Quarian Marksman's icon is the guy. I doubt the can change that without a patch that'll be too expensive to put out just for that one issue. Plus marksman has Tac Scan. Heaven knows a woman can't have that power.

Unless the Turian Engineer is a female who sounds a lot like a man, then the Engineer is a male.

Quarian Marksman could have an icon swap I believe from a simple Coalesced change. Not sure if they can do a model swap without a patch though. Either way I wouldn't expect it to happen for this DLC.

I'm not getting my hopes up for a turian female at this rate. Bioware tends to lable a genders if the species is udal gendered, so someone would've likely noticed when they could see all characters, and, well, this board would've have exploded on day 1, well before I asked my question.

As for the Quarian Marksman situation, I agree. As much as I loathe it as an excuse to not do anything about it, they already set it in stone.

[AresKeith]

Cyonan wrote...

Rebel_Raven wrote...

Cyonan looked through the files. It's pretty certain the krogan in the DLC is male.
Odds are high all turians are going to be male, too.

Quarian Marksman's icon is the guy. I doubt the can change that without a patch that'll be too expensive to put out just for that one issue. Plus marksman has Tac Scan. Heaven knows a woman can't have that power.

Unless the Turian Engineer is a female who sounds a lot like a man, then the Engineer is a male.

Quarian Marksman could have an icon swap I believe from a simple Coalesced change. Not sure if they can do a model swap without a patch though. Either way I wouldn't expect it to happen for this DLC.

Cthulu_Cuddler wrote...

Cry more. It's like the SWTOR fans freaking out for no same sex relationships in game.
I s'pose I can see the point of wanting to play a character that's your gender (I acknowledge and know what you mean with the male protagonist taking the spotlight in the industry) but really, does it matter that much if the character is well written/fun to play?
Stop fretting over the gender of your pixels cause guess what.....IT'S A GAME!

Not even close to being like that. Also those people made less sense since Bioware said they were working on adding the exact thing they were complaining about not having. In this case they've not come out and said "next DLC will be female heavy".

From my PM chat with Derek it sounds like they aren't done making MP DLC

[Omnifarious Nef]

Rebel_Raven wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

Rebel_Raven wrote...

Cyonan looked through the files. It's pretty certain the krogan in the DLC is male.
Odds are high all turians are going to be male, too.

Quarian Marksman's icon is the guy. I doubt the can change that without a patch that'll be too expensive to put out just for that one issue. Plus marksman has Tac Scan. Heaven knows a woman can't have that power.

Unless the Turian Engineer is a female who sounds a lot like a man, then the Engineer is a male.

Quarian Marksman could have an icon swap I believe from a simple Coalesced change. Not sure if they can do a model swap without a patch though. Either way I wouldn't expect it to happen for this DLC.

I'm not getting my hopes up for a turian female at this rate. Bioware tends to lable a genders if the species is udal gendered, so someone would've likely noticed when they could see all characters, and, well, this board would've have exploded on day 1, well before I asked my question.

As for the Quarian Marksman situation, I agree. As much as I loathe it as an excuse to not do anything about it, they already set it in stone.

I mean, I can see why there's no Krogan or Salarian females, (Both are pretty much sacred) but Turian females are required to serve in the military just like men, it's manditory.

[Rebel_Raven]

AresKeith wrote...

From my PM chat with Derek it sounds like they aren't done making MP DLC

But frustratingly enough, there's not even a guarentee they'll even have females in the next one. Bioware's already proven willing to make an all male DLC. With this one they may as well have.

[Rebel_Raven]

NeferiusX3 wrote...

Rebel_Raven wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

Rebel_Raven wrote...

Cyonan looked through the files. It's pretty certain the krogan in the DLC is male.
Odds are high all turians are going to be male, too.

Quarian Marksman's icon is the guy. I doubt the can change that without a patch that'll be too expensive to put out just for that one issue. Plus marksman has Tac Scan. Heaven knows a woman can't have that power.

Unless the Turian Engineer is a female who sounds a lot like a man, then the Engineer is a male.

Quarian Marksman could have an icon swap I believe from a simple Coalesced change. Not sure if they can do a model swap without a patch though. Either way I wouldn't expect it to happen for this DLC.

I'm not getting my hopes up for a turian female at this rate. Bioware tends to lable a genders if the species is udal gendered, so someone would've likely noticed when they could see all characters, and, well, this board would've have exploded on day 1, well before I asked my question.

As for the Quarian Marksman situation, I agree. As much as I loathe it as an excuse to not do anything about it, they already set it in stone.

I mean, I can see why there's no Krogan or Salarian females, (Both are pretty much sacred) but Turian females are required to serve in the military just like men, it's manditory.

What made female krogans sacred was the simple fact only a few were fertile. With the genophage cure dispersed into the atmosphere of the planet by something designed for spreading the genophage across the planet, it's safe to say a lot more (but not necessarily all) are fertile.
Even if you took the other route, the krogan -believe- they'ev been cured. Same result, IMO, or else they would NEVER have joined the turians since that cure was the end all be all of the agreement of them joining.

A krogan female can have thousands of babies, and there will be a lot of them having them. Since the female krogans outnumber the males, and the males have been goign out freely, I'd say the Krogan culture can unclench, and let women be more free instead of dedicated home-makers.

Those depressed infertile females, and they do exist, aren't really all that "sacred" likely even post cure. they might wanna go out and help secure the krogan's future, and help make sure the ffertile women have time to do what they do.

There's a lot people are unwilling to take into account, rather stick to outdated mentalities, and lore.

Salarians, I'm not gunna argue if women are added, but the lore is actually solid.

Turians? No excuse is acceptable. MP needs to reflect their lore ASAP.

[AresKeith]

Rebel_Raven wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

From my PM chat with Derek it sounds like they aren't done making MP DLC

But frustratingly enough, there's not even a guarentee they'll even have females in the next one. Bioware's already proven willing to make an all male DLC. With this one they may as well have.

Not exactly, he also told me that they really do take in fan feedback and suggestions. So at some point they will consider adding in more females to the MP

As someone said earlier, if you yell loud enough someone is going to comeover and see what all the fuss is about.

[Najarati]

I would have liked the Quarian Marksman to have been female (and the model based off Tali's second outfit!), but it's not the end of the world. I'm sure we'll see another female quarian class eventually since -- as far as I know -- the quarian ladies are fairly popular when it comes to general fandom.

As for male quarians being stronger than their female counterparts, I disagree. Such may be the popular board sentiment, but based on actual playing experience it never felt that way; especially when it came to the infiltrator class. The FQI always felt powerful to me since day one -- bronze, silver, or gold (platinum never interested me). She's underappreciated, perhaps, but not underpowered. And the FQE? Well, initially she may have been on the weaker side, but with all the recent fixes/changes she's a destructive beast in my opinion. I love playing both of them.

Modifié par Najarati, 11 octobre 2012 - 12:05 .

[Rebel_Raven]

AresKeith wrote...

Rebel_Raven wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

From my PM chat with Derek it sounds like they aren't done making MP DLC

But frustratingly enough, there's not even a guarentee they'll even have females in the next one. Bioware's already proven willing to make an all male DLC. With this one they may as well have.

Not exactly, he also told me that they really do take in fan feedback and suggestions. So at some point they will consider adding in more females to the MP

As someone said earlier, if you yell loud enough someone is going to comeover and see what all the fuss is about.

Consideration is still no guarentee. 

I've been giving feedback, and suggestions since the sausagefest DLC. Sure I hadn't actually made the class for them, but still, I'm not asking for something complex.

Considering there's 14 missed chances in this DLC, I don't think they've listened to me.

[Omnifarious Nef]

I'm just going to say this, in support of adding females. I am male, and I like playing as a male. But ME2 is one of the ONLY games, where I not only played as a female character, but femshep ACTUALLY felt right, and not out of place in anyway, And when I was done, it actually felt weird having a male Shep again. That's what I want to see again in ME3 MP, some females where you're like, oh yeah, I'd play as that, and it doesn't seem weird in any way. I mean come on, right now I have fragile bio-suited women and space strippers.

What happened to the hard core front line women? The new woman? From Earth? Although she is fun to play, still, she's some skin tight leather looking suit with high heels. Wtf Bioware. At least there's still the original few to choose from. Fun fact: I prefer playing as the female human infiltrator as apposed to the male. But I can only imagine that's because she's reminiscent of my ME2 femshep. I guess what I'm trying to get at is, Bioware, add some woman who are not only fun to play, but are comparable to thier male counter parts. How many games now a days have that badass female commando swoop in out of a drop shuttle and save the day wisking the men up one armed and putting them on the shuttle? Hm?

Modifié par NeferiusX3, 11 octobre 2012 - 12:18 .

[Rebel_Raven]

NeferiusX3 wrote...

I'm just going to say this, in support of adding females. I am male, and I like playing as a male. But ME2 is one of the ONLY games, where I not only played as a female character, but femshep ACTUALLY felt right, and not out of place in anyway, And when I was done, it actually felt weird having a male Shep again. That's what I want to see again in ME3 MP, some females where you're like, oh yeah, I'd play as that, and it doesn't seem weird in any way. I mean come on, right now I have fragile bio-suited women and space strippers.

What happened to the hard core front line women? The new woman? From Earth? Although she is fun to play, still, she's some skin tight leather looking suit with high heels. Wtf Bioware. At least there's still the original few to choose from. Fun fact: I prefer playing as the female human infiltrator as apposed to the male. But I can only imagine that's because she's reminiscent of my ME2 femshep. I guess what I'm trying to get at is, Bioware, add some woman who are not only fun to play, but are comparable to thier male counter parts. How many games now a days have that badass female commando swoop in out of a drop shuttle and save the day wisking the men up one armed and putting them on the shuttle? Hm?

I like this krogan! He understands!

I'm not the only one that feels the spirit of Mass effect has ben dampened in Multiplayer.

[AresKeith]

Rebel_Raven wrote...

NeferiusX3 wrote...

I'm just going to say this, in support of adding females. I am male, and I like playing as a male. But ME2 is one of the ONLY games, where I not only played as a female character, but femshep ACTUALLY felt right, and not out of place in anyway, And when I was done, it actually felt weird having a male Shep again. That's what I want to see again in ME3 MP, some females where you're like, oh yeah, I'd play as that, and it doesn't seem weird in any way. I mean come on, right now I have fragile bio-suited women and space strippers.

What happened to the hard core front line women? The new woman? From Earth? Although she is fun to play, still, she's some skin tight leather looking suit with high heels. Wtf Bioware. At least there's still the original few to choose from. Fun fact: I prefer playing as the female human infiltrator as apposed to the male. But I can only imagine that's because she's reminiscent of my ME2 femshep. I guess what I'm trying to get at is, Bioware, add some woman who are not only fun to play, but are comparable to thier male counter parts. How many games now a days have that badass female commando swoop in out of a drop shuttle and save the day wisking the men up one armed and putting them on the shuttle? Hm?

I like this krogan! He understands!

I'm not the only one that feels the spirit of Mass effect has ben dampened in Multiplayer.

You were never the only one lol

[Najarati]

NeferiusX3 wrote...
What happened to the hard core front line women? The new woman? From Earth? Although she is fun to play, still, she's some skin tight leather looking suit with high heels. Wtf Bioware. At least there's still the original few to choose from...

You know, I'm all for more female characters but let's not ignore what -is- there, shall we?  You mention the new women from the Earth DLC.  That includes the Demolisher as I recall.  She's definitely not wearing some "skin tight leather looking suit."  No, she's wearing what looks like a flak jacket with some ceramic plating layered over it; practical stuff.  She also has immense destructive power with her grenades and pylon; how is that not hardcore?  There is no male counterpart, either.

As for the front lines, I wouldn't call the Fury a "back line" class.  Almost everyone I've seen play her is very aggressive, dancing within the ranks of the enemy and taking them out in groups while only taking cover when overwhelmed.  Her outfit is too tight you say?  Well, I wouldn't call the Slayer outfit or anything the drells wear "baggy" so there's some parity there.  You also mentioned the original women, which is good, because the female human soldier and vanguard are both heavily armored and made to be in the front lines.

And a plug for my QFI; she's defintely hardcore I don't care what anyone says.  She lugs the Crusader around without breaking a sweat and splatters skulls like so much wilted cabbage in a blender.  Brutes and Ravagers topple in seconds; Atlases not too much longer (on gold!).  She does all this at both long range and short, undeterred, while wearing a suit that if breached could mean the end of her life when others might otherwise survive.  -That's- hardcore.  It's all in the mindset.

Modifié par Najarati, 11 octobre 2012 - 12:37 .

[Omnifarious Nef]

Najarati wrote...

NeferiusX3 wrote...
What happened to the hard core front line women? The new woman? From Earth? Although she is fun to play, still, she's some skin tight leather looking suit with high heels. Wtf Bioware. At least there's still the original few to choose from...

You know, I'm all for more female characters but let's not ignore what -is- there, shall we?  You mention the new women from the Earth DLC.  That includes the Demolisher as I recall.  She's definitely not wearing some "skin tight leather looking suit."  No, she's wearing what looks like a flak jacket with some ceramic plating layered over it; practical stuff.  She also has immense destructive power with her grenades and pylon; how is that not hardcore?  There is no male counterpart, either.

As for the front lines, I wouldn't call the Fury a "back line" class.  Almost everyone I've seen play her is very aggressive, dancing within the ranks of the enemy and taking them out in groups while only taking cover when overwhelmed.  Her outfit is too tight you say?  Well, I wouldn't call the Slayer outfit or anything the drells wear "baggy" so there's some parity there.  You also mentioned the original women, which is good, because the female human soldier and vanguard are both heavily armored and made to be in the front lines.

And a plug for my QFI; she's defintely hardcore I don't care what anyone says.  She lugs the Crusader around without breaking a sweat and splatters skulls like so much wilted cabbage in a blender.  She does all this at both long range and short while wearing a suit that, if breached, could mean the end of her life when others might otherwise survive.  -That's- hardcore.  It's all in the mindset.

I admit, I did forget the Demolisher, she has grenades, but she carrys around a supply pylon to stay in the back ground as support and use wrist propelled homing grenades.. What, women can't aim or throw anymore?.... That was a joke, I'm well aware of her other grenade power. I just want Bioware to remember what they established with the prior ME games. As the last few months have gone on, the women have been getting more and more, dare I say, sexist, in a way. The characters went from practical forms to leathered high heel space ninjas... What? Mean while we get heavily armored men, (Like the Krogan) And jet packs, and, other stuff.

The males are all like "WOOO JET PACK INTO A GROUP WITH DUAL OMNI-BLADES!" The new female, the Asari? In the old leather commando suit, has cloak. Cloak and hide baby! CLOAK AND HIDE WOMAN!... That was also a joke, I am okay with marksmen women types.

Annnnd done, forgive any typos, on a phone.

Modifié par NeferiusX3, 11 octobre 2012 - 12:44 .

[Rebel_Raven]

NeferiusX3 wrote...

Najarati wrote...

NeferiusX3 wrote...
What happened to the hard core front line women? The new woman? From Earth? Although she is fun to play, still, she's some skin tight leather looking suit with high heels. Wtf Bioware. At least there's still the original few to choose from...

You know, I'm all for more female characters but let's not ignore what -is- there, shall we?  You mention the new women from the Earth DLC.  That includes the Demolisher as I recall.  She's definitely not wearing some "skin tight leather looking suit."  No, she's wearing what looks like a flak jacket with some ceramic plating layered over it; practical stuff.  She also has immense destructive power with her grenades and pylon; how is that not hardcore?  There is no male counterpart, either.

As for the front lines, I wouldn't call the Fury a "back line" class.  Almost everyone I've seen play her is very aggressive, dancing within the ranks of the enemy and taking them out in groups while only taking cover when overwhelmed.  Her outfit is too tight you say?  Well, I wouldn't call the Slayer outfit or anything the drells wear "baggy" so there's some parity there.  You also mentioned the original women, which is good, because the female human soldier and vanguard are both heavily armored and made to be in the front lines.

And a plug for my QFI; she's defintely hardcore I don't care what anyone says.  She lugs the Crusader around without breaking a sweat and splatters skulls like so much wilted cabbage in a blender.  She does all this at both long range and short while wearing a suit that, if breached, could mean the end of her life when others might otherwise survive.  -That's- hardcore.  It's all in the mindset.

I admit, I did forget the Demolisher, she has grenades, but she carrys around a supply pylon to stay in the back ground as support and use wrist propelled homing grenades.. What, women can't aim or throw anymore?.... That was a joke, I'm well aware of her other grenade power. I just want Bioware to remember what they established with the prior ME games. As the last few months have gone on, the women have been getting more and more, dare I say, sexist, in a way. The characters went from practical forms to leathered high heel space ninjas... What? Mean while we get heavily armored men, (Like the Krogan) And jet packs, and, other stuff.

Ah, Demolisher. Soldier Lite, bluntly.
Shields above the norm for women, save the justicar.
Grenades.

Still can't pull much of anything out of her weapons naturally. Not without camping anyhow. ever try camping when there's compitent run and gunners? It's a nightmare.

Supply pylon needed to be mobile, or something, IMO. Ah well.

And this krogan still understands.

[Najarati]

NeferiusX3 wrote...
I admit, I did forget the Demolisher, she has grenades, but she carrys around a supply pylon to stay in the back ground as support and use wrist propelled homing grenades.. What, women can't aim or throw anymore?.... That was a joke, I'm well aware of her other grenade power.

No, she carries a supply pylon so she can refill her grenades without having to visit a crate -- no more, no less.  If you want to huddle around the pylon in the back that's certainly your choice, but there's no rule saying you must play that way.  My Demolisher is often right up in the front shredding enemies with everyone one else -- grenades, buckshot, melee, whatever gets the job done.  Other times, she hangs back.  It all depends on the situation.  And I don't travel light with her or use "wimpy" weapons or any such nonsense; Piranha and Sabre or the Crusader alone for her.

To sum up: she's tough, powerful, and as hardcore as you choose to play her.  The tools are there and she has no counterpart.