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[Learn To Love Yourself]

I'm sure they will be balancing it out in the future.

[Rifneno]

Stardusk wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Wow, and I thought it was a good troll giving us the collector assault rifle without buffing it.

The CAR is 100x better than the CSMG.

[Yuanrang]

MasterKiller64 wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Transairion wrote...

Inb4 it gets a minor buff and goes from "useless!" to "OMFG THIS IS THE BEST THING EVER"

'Cause that's exactly what happened to the PPR and you all bashed that on release too...

The PPR didn't get a minor buff. It got a major one.

Is the PPR the particle rifle?

Yes.

I tried the Collector SMG a bit, and I was very underwhelmed even with it at level 1. I think the primary issue there is the damage value of a clip. It has a very horrible reload due to it being similar to the PPR, meaning you really do not want to empty the minor clip, which leads to a lot of downtime. Add that in with rather underwhelming damage, and you have yet another SMG that just is nothing to write home about. I have performed far better with even the Locust than I have with the Collector SMG. They feel very much the same, it is just that the Collector SMG has that attrocious reload.

[Stardusk]

Cake Tasty wrote...

People kept asking for more SMGs

We (I) asked for the Bloodpack Punisher...and I hope we still get it.

[A Wild Snorlax]

It's pretty shocking.

All the collector weapons need buffs but this one is easily the worst, by far. It's horrible. The damage is bad and the mag size is a joke.Dunno what they were thinking when they made it an ultra rare.

[Rotacioskapa]

Stardusk wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Wow, and I thought it was a good troll giving us the collector assault rifle without buffing it.

The CAR is 100x better than the CSMG.

No it's not, the CAR is sh*t, the smg is good, just use the extended clip and barrel on it. It only needs a damage buff. All 3 collector weapon needs it though. Especially the CAR, that one is truly sh*t.

[IpodsMakeGraves]

I ran it on my geth infiltrator with an extended mag and barrel on gold against reapers and i really liked it. Oh and i have it at level l so you all really are whiners. =/

[SiIencE]

I can't say i'm happy with those collector rifles at all really. If you press reload by accident even though ammo is full it also takes forever to do 'nothing'. And the Sniper V is terrible also. Valiant and Crusader pwn all.

[mybudgee]

It's not an SMG, it is actually for opening envelopes..

[oO Stryfe Oo]

Cake Tasty wrote...

People kept asking for more SMGs

Staplers =/= SMGs.

[Blarg]

 Needs larger clip. Same for Collector Sniper Rifle.

[Gladerunner]

Is its Damage to weight decent?

[Amano Kazumi]

I just hope Bioware has good changes planned for the Collector weaponry. Taking it slow, a 10% damage buff here or there over the course of months, isn't going to help these weapons one bit. They need drastic changes. At this stage in the game, when we've got Platinum, harder enemies than ever, and the new, IMO pretty difficult Collectors, giving us a new UR that's worth less than a Common is pretty illogical. Same with giving us a Rare sniper rifle and assault rifle, at this stage in the game we have better guns already and won't be playing for these new weapons. There is no incentive to get the guns or even try them out unless you're role playing.

It's a shame about these guns. IMO the pistol and shotgun categories are king right now, and there's diversity and balance within each category, totally viable on Gold/Platinum. The other categories have been just begging for new, competitive weaponry, and sadly, this DLC failed to deliver so far.

[Rokayt]

Transairion wrote...

The PPR didn't get a minor buff. It got a major one.

You call this buff MAJOR?

Prothean Particle Beam Assault Rifle
- Damage increased from [17.2-21.4] to [19.2-25.8]

'Cause as soon as it got a whooping 4.4 extra damage, it went from "Worst UR in the game!" to "OMG BEST THING EVER!!!". I'm not even kidding...

A week later when already considered good, it got a "fix"/buff so it's ammo actually scales with level, making all PPR II - X's better. But it was already forgiven for it's sins by that time.


The new Collector stuff just needs the Prothean Particle Rifle treatment of actually figuring out how to use, getting small buffs if needed. Seriously, 4.4 damage, major? Those 10+ damage buffs on other weapons must be of Earth-shattering proportions then!

25% of its damage, when it heats up, thats 20 extra damage, 13 times per second.

Thats an extra 260 DPS.

[Darksing]

Stardusk is a good example of someone who takes this game a little too seriously, and is terribad at it. Played with him before, wasn't impressed. Close this useless thread.

[Yuanrang]

Gladerunner wrote...

Is its Damage to weight decent?

No. The weight is around the Hurricane's level, but the damage is very inferior. It is rather stable and accurate, but in terms of damage and magazine size, it is rather weak.

[Kill3rKev666]

[quote]Rifneno wrote...

[quote]Stardusk wrote...

[quote]Rifneno wrote...

Wow, and I thought it was a good troll giving us the collector assault rifle without buffing it.[/quote]

The CAR is 100x better than the CSMG.

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That made me lol. 
On a serious note, it really is useless. Couldn't kill a regular trooper with it on silver before it would run out of bullets and take 5  seconds to "reload".

Modifié par Kill3rKev666, 09 octobre 2012 - 10:28 .

[a jaded hater 13]

Hey look, yet another whiny Stardusk thread.

[megabeast37215]

I used it on Collectors/Gold and was able to kill the mooks with it no problem, didn't even have any SMG amps on (did have AP 3 on though)... but I have it at X so that might have something to do with it. Also was using it on a Turian so it was easier to shoot big fat collector heads with it.

It's light... mediocre damage... it's an SMG. For an UR... I'd like it to kill a little faster.

[k1ngl1ves]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...


... so who in ehre is the brainless one exactly?

In the one corner, I see Stardusk, that has a founded experience going for his argumentation (I would know, because he popped into my match and I could see how pitiful the weapon was performing).

In the other corner, I see k1ngl1ves, that entered this thread with nothing but disdainful insults and silly nonsense.


Hmm, ... such a lively bout, reaaaally hard to decide.

Yes. I see.  Too bad about the new smg.  If only there were like 500 other weapons that we could use instead of this paperweight.  The Collector tag might have forshadowed it's lack of usefulness.  Maybe there just needs to be more testing done with it.  I remember when people thought the Claymore was a POS too.  On the bright side, you can max it out faster than an Eagle.  If it sucks, and you don't like it, use something else.  Also, all of OP's posts are hate posts, with an intent to troll.  Nice cat pic btw<_<

[k1ngl1ves]

It's only an Smg. No smg should be a boss killer...

[AWanger]

himegoto wrote...

Dont have it yet. Dont want to waste anymore credits until BW fix the wasted character unlocks on Turians.

But I have the Collector sniper rifle at max. Thought it's pretty silly. Shoot for 1.5 sec, reload for 5.0 sec.
The new characters are great. But the guns, BW just trolling us.

Off topic but does the CSniper get better?  I have it at 4 and and am underwhelmed. 

[mykejm]

a jaded hater 13 wrote...

Hey look, yet another whiny Stardusk thread.

TBH when I first read this post I thought it said: "hey look, yet another whine about Stardusk thread" -- which actually seems more appropriate given some of the recent comments.

Even if he is "terribad" at this game -- which I doubt -- how is that relevant to the discussion?  I think even a mediocre player could tell you which guns suck and which are good.