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Collector SMG: Practical Joke of a UR?


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#176
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Another thing, this thread was made when the weapon was new and relatively unknown.

People now have it at X and have worked out how to use it properly.

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Poison_Berrie

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Thread once dead, rise again
Make current the ancient thoughts of men
In my search for this thread's tag
I did not click on things less far back.

Modifié par Poison_Berrie, 17 janvier 2013 - 12:54 .


#178
HolyAvenger

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I love my CSMG.

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only ever tried it at lvl X, it's probably the best all-around UR for casters. Talon and Wraith are better up close, but CSMG out-ranges them. Damage is decent, and accuracy is great. Not having to run to ammo boxes makes the game a lot more fun!

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Annomander wrote...

Another thing, this thread was made when the weapon was new and relatively unknown.

People now have it at X and have worked out how to use it properly.


Didn't Stardusk himself make a thread about how awesome the CSMG X is? :D

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 I have yet to unlock it. <_<

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Baby Quarian wrote...

 I have yet to unlock it. <_<


I wouldn't bother using it until you have it at at least V-VI if you're playing gold.

And yeah Stardusk saw the light and retracted his statements. The CSMG is pretty badass on casters, but unless 80+ % of the clip is going into the enemies head, you're not going to get "Feneckus / Jay / Stentron" damage out of it.

Feneckus has a great video of him destroying swathes of enemies using a volus engineer w/ CSMG X

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I love it, but it still needs some love from Bioware. An increase in clip size, a fix so if you manage to completely empty the clip causing the weapon to overheat performing other actions (like getting into cover or firing off a biotic) do not reset/interfere with the reload countdown, also another damage buff would be welcomed!

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dava6711 wrote...

I love it, but it still needs some love from Bioware. An increase in clip size, a fix so if you manage to completely empty the clip causing the weapon to overheat performing other actions (like getting into cover or firing off a biotic) do not reset/interfere with the reload countdown, also another damage buff would be welcomed!


It already does more damage than the hurricane versus armour, they're not going to buff it's damage again.

Aim for the head.

And don't let it overheat EVER during combat.

Modifié par Annomander, 17 janvier 2013 - 01:31 .


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use it on ammo capacity classes only extending the clip size up to a massive 80 shots, that and pulse the trigger similar to how you use the hornet or shiruken, it should keep its ammo load above 40 that way excpet on the odd boss here n there if your pinned down

even at lvl 1 its great on silver on the right classes but really its no worse a weapon than the CSR

its all about the build really the only major drawback for it is the weight making it not really viable on casters since you cant pack the right mods into it

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Annomander wrote...

dava6711 wrote...

I love it, but it still needs some love from Bioware. An increase in clip size, a fix so if you manage to completely empty the clip causing the weapon to overheat performing other actions (like getting into cover or firing off a biotic) do not reset/interfere with the reload countdown, also another damage buff would be welcomed!


It already does more damage than the hurricane versus armour, they're not going to buff it's damage again.

Aim for the head.

And don't let it overheat EVER during combat.


I know how to use the weapon friend, I'm also aware it has an armour bonus. Occasionally I'll overheat it accidentally, many players do so I'm not alone! Performing other actions should not reset the reload animation!

#187
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Ultra rare guns are all useless. They all need to be buffed properly.

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The gun does not need any buffs. I have yet to test this, but I'm pretty sure it can out-DPS a Harrier on some classes.

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Feneckus wrote...

The gun does not need any buffs. I have yet to test this, but I'm pretty sure it can out-DPS a Harrier on some classes.


Against armour? Probably, what classes would that be though?

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use it on a Turian Sent, slap an ext mag and a barrell, use AP ammo. it actually does good things, i even came to like that little stapler.

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Stardusk wrote...

Sorry, this thread cannot die. You cannot make a weapon that is a UR virtually useless.

QFT

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Annomander wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

The gun does not need any buffs. I have yet to test this, but I'm pretty sure it can out-DPS a Harrier on some classes.


Against armour? Probably, what classes would that be though?


Against bosses. You can use powers more often and keep firing for a long time. With a Harrier, you have to reload quite often and you don't use your powers as much, so for classes with powers that deal a lot of damage the CSMG might actually do more damage.

I'm thinking Phoenix kits, Volus Engineer, maybe Human Engineer. I might test it today.

Modifié par Feneckus, 17 janvier 2013 - 03:40 .


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I have it at level X, and use it on my paladin. It does its job well enough; max CD, applies ammo effect, lets me spam my powers for rapid TBs, FEs, etc (no need to hit ammo boxes), and is fine for killing off weakened enemies.

I won't complain if it gets a slight buff, but it's ok.

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Rifneno wrote...

Arcadian_Sentinel wrote...

at Is OP and UR, Btw Im new to the forums XD


OP = Overpowered
UR = Ultra rare


Actually in this case OP means orignal poster.

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Induhvidual wrote...

After seeing this thread I just had to give the Collector SMG a go. So I chose a beefy class (Turian Ghost) and went with a Gold PUG vs the Reapers. I put on Warp III and SMG Rail Amp III. We landed on FB dagger, I think--it was the one with the bunker to the right of the LZ.

So, I soloed rounds 7 through 9 and man is this gun the most frustrating and horrible POS I have ever had the displeasure of using. It took forever to kill a GOLD ravager. The DPS was horrendous. I would rather use a Predator X or Avenger X than this ultra rare SMG. This gun is a joke compared to the collector sniper rifle, which, while difficult to use, actually does some damage.

@OP's question: Yes, I do believe this gun is a giant joke.

EDIT: I believe the I had the gun at level 1 or 2.


Are you all idiots???
It is a caster's SMG!!!
I run it on my Human engineer near 200% cooldown constantly firing between incinerate and chain overload. I never have to reload, never have to break cover to stock up on ammo. Spray it across a group of shieldless mooks with tech ammo before chain overload.  Use it to drain shields to set up those tech explosions.

Actually you are all idiots since you seem incapable of moving beyond tough, soldier, big gun mentality.

Shheeez...

#196
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ThatGuyThatPlaysThisGame wrote...

Ultra rare guns are all useless. They all need to be buffed properly.


2 Words: Cerberus Harrier.

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Tom-N7- wrote...

ThatGuyThatPlaysThisGame wrote...

Ultra rare guns are all useless. They all need to be buffed properly.


2 Words: Cerberus Harrier.

A underpowered POS weapon if ever I've seen one.

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Paradoxbound wrote...

Are you all idiots???


Obviously. Turian Ghost and warp ammo ? Haha, priceless. Some people are just too stupid to have opinions.

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maybe its a pure melee weapon? beat the husks over the head with it??

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Its a great caster gun, one of my favorites. Not so good on a pure weapons class though. My FQE loves it.