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Collector SMG: Practical Joke of a UR?


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#201
Googleness

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CAR is trash in same level.

this days unless I take a shotgun I usually pick my hurricane 4 for maximum fun.

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MyWhiteNostrils wrote...

Not so good on a pure weapons class though.




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mnkynoodle

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it would be great if it had a 200 clip

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Nitestick7

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I actually like this gun on pure weapon classes. If you ever want to get the hang of it, playing it on a destroyer soldier is pretty foolproof. If you take clip size, extended barrel, AP IV, and the amps, you wreck mobs with headshot after headshot, and I've got terrible aim. The amour bonus makes it still good against bosses, and it'll kill stuff faster at medium to long range than the hurricane because of it's pinpoint accuracy.

If you're already a pretty good shot you'll probably do better with a Turian soldier because of marksman, but I feel the destroyer still makes this gun awesome and is more forgiving for those of slightly lower skill like me.

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Feneckus wrote...

MyWhiteNostrils wrote...

Not so good on a pure weapons class though.





I'm inclined to call bullsh*t on that Feneckus, after what you did with the argus w/ stability + scope I'm inclined to say its more your skill than  the actual gun. It's good, but headshots are required and not everyone can gun like you can.

I'm not disputing its a good gun, but everything in that video would have died twice as fast if you'd used the hurricane instead.

Modifié par Annomander, 17 janvier 2013 - 05:20 .


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I'm lucky to have it at X. It's an accurate gun with reasonable damage, and pretty easy to get headshots with. It's obviously not a DPS machine but I like the feel of it and its accuracy. A nice change from using the Talon for a while.

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Feneckus wrote...

MyWhiteNostrils wrote...

Not so good on a pure weapons class though.




Mine still at 3 :(

Modifié par robarcool, 17 janvier 2013 - 05:21 .


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Feneckus wrote...

MyWhiteNostrils wrote...

Not so good on a pure weapons class though.





I can admit to being wrong! But I haven't had the best success with the CSMG on most weapon classes.

I have never tried it on the TSol. though. (Mine CSMG is at X)

You are also a very good player from what I saw in that video, so it could be that too.

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Poison_Berrie wrote...

Thread once dead, rise again
Make current the ancient thoughts of men
In my search for this thread's tag
I did not click on things less far back.


hahaha! funny!

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MyWhiteNostrils wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

MyWhiteNostrils wrote...

Not so good on a pure weapons class though.





I can admit to being wrong! But I haven't had the best success with the CSMG on most weapon classes.

I have never tried it on the TSol. though. (Mine CSMG is at X)

You are also a very good player from what I saw in that video, so it could be that too.



You can count on one hand the number of body shots he gets in the video.

Unless you've got a keyboard and mouse I doub't you'll anything remotely close to the damage he can squeeze out of it.

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Annomander wrote...

MyWhiteNostrils wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

MyWhiteNostrils wrote...

Not so good on a pure weapons class though.





I can admit to being wrong! But I haven't had the best success with the CSMG on most weapon classes.

I have never tried it on the TSol. though. (Mine CSMG is at X)

You are also a very good player from what I saw in that video, so it could be that too.



You can count on one hand the number of body shots he gets in the video.

Unless you've got a keyboard and mouse I doub't you'll anything remotely close to the damage he can squeeze out of it.


i think the pioint is, it is really really easy to get headshots with this thing. i posted a few days ago about how I had never tried it on a TS, and did, and found it to be just  awesome. the TS destroys with it (no surprise there I guess), you just have to manage your firing.

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Needs clip size boost and it also needs to refresh bullets much faster. Its accurate but you cant even reliably put down ANY unit with short bursts. A few short burst to allow for weapon recharging only nets you a few extra bullets. I just don't see the point of the gun at all because it doesn't do enough DPS for me to take it over ANY SMG. And the playstyle further retards DPS. Not to mention the bugs associated with letting it over heat.

At the end of the day if you have a level 1 of ANY SMG you are better off taking that.

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Moxy_Pirate wrote...

Needs clip size boost and it also needs to refresh bullets much faster. Its accurate but you cant even reliably put down ANY unit with short bursts. A few short burst to allow for weapon recharging only nets you a few extra bullets. I just don't see the point of the gun at all because it doesn't do enough DPS for me to take it over ANY SMG. And the playstyle further retards DPS. Not to mention the bugs associated with letting it over heat.

At the end of the day if you have a level 1 of ANY SMG you are better off taking that.


I lol'd. Once you get it to a decent level, the CSMG can be better than most SMGs excluding the Hurricane. (Which it can be equal to in my opinion)

Thermal clip on it is a must though. 72 shots with it at X, its fine.

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If only there were a class that benefited from consistent headshots and reliable priming of ammo powers without having to hit an ammo box.

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LegionofRannoch

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this thread is a practical joke.

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LegionofRannoch wrote...

this thread is a practical joke.


Harsh Legion bro!:P

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To the guy that claims "we're all stupid" and that it's a casters weapon of choice, it does compliment a biotic or tech character well but you 'cannot' constantly fire it inbetween casting biotic or tech powers as it'll quickly run out of ammo and overheat, even if equipped on an adept with 200% cool down you cannot do this as the gun does not recharge quickly enough, period!

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thatdamnlobster

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CrimsonN7 wrote...

LegionofRannoch wrote...

this thread is a practical joke.


Harsh Legion bro!:P

why have i been thinking all this time legion is a girl?

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lemon00 wrote...

Annomander wrote...

MyWhiteNostrils wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

MyWhiteNostrils wrote...

Not so good on a pure weapons class though.





I can admit to being wrong! But I haven't had the best success with the CSMG on most weapon classes.

I have never tried it on the TSol. though. (Mine CSMG is at X)

You are also a very good player from what I saw in that video, so it could be that too.



You can count on one hand the number of body shots he gets in the video.

Unless you've got a keyboard and mouse I doub't you'll anything remotely close to the damage he can squeeze out of it.


i think the pioint is, it is really really easy to get headshots with this thing. i posted a few days ago about how I had never tried it on a TS, and did, and found it to be just  awesome. the TS destroys with it (no surprise there I guess), you just have to manage your firing.


Saying the collector SMG is only good in the hands of a headshotter is kinda like saying the harrier/hurricane are only good because most people suck.

The CSMG is a beast gun and the major factors are
Accuracy                 Headshots headshots headshots~
Infinite Ammo
1.5 Armor Mod

You don't need to be "good" to see the shine on a collector SMG.

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Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Saying the collector SMG is only good in the hands of a headshotter is kinda like saying the harrier/hurricane are only good because most people suck.

The CSMG is a beast gun and the major factors are
Accuracy                 Headshots headshots headshots~
Infinite Ammo
1.5 Armor Mod

You don't need to be "good" to see the shine on a collector SMG.


i agree. it's good off a turian hadshotter. It is just insanely good on him....

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thatdamnlobster wrote...

CrimsonN7 wrote...

LegionofRannoch wrote...

this thread is a practical joke.


Harsh Legion bro!:P

why have i been thinking all this time legion is a girl?

.

There was a h... No, not going there.

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Saying
the collector SMG is only good in the hands of a headshotter is kinda
like saying the harrier/hurricane are only good because most people
suck.

The CSMG is a beast gun and the major factors are
Accuracy                 Headshots headshots headshots~
Infinite Ammo
1.5 Armor Mod

You don't need to be "good" to see the shine on a collector SMG.


Its burst DPS is quite low for an ultra rare. Its damage is only respectable if the player can capitalize on the great accuracy of the weapon to land headshots. The armor modifier hurts the gun more than it helps it, since its damage was nerfed considerably before release due to it. If it did decent damage to all defenses rather than only great damage to armor and mediocre to everything else, it would be an all around amazing gun.

#222
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csmg 1 = my toilet paper

saw a invader1 vid at it at X:
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DO WANT!

#223
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Stardusk wrote...
You cannot make a weapon that is a UR virtually useless.


I used to say the same thing about the Hurricane last year. Now look what N7-Link did with it.

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dava6711 wrote...

To the guy that claims "we're all stupid" and that it's a casters weapon of choice, it does compliment a biotic or tech character well but you 'cannot' constantly fire it inbetween casting biotic or tech powers as it'll quickly run out of ammo and overheat, even if equipped on an adept with 200% cool down you cannot do this as the gun does not recharge quickly enough, period!


I didn't claim everyone was stupid just the morons who think all weapons revolve around solider class.  I have the CSMG at IV at I or II I was sometimes running out of ammo. I run the AP mod and extended barrel.  I load it with incendiary ammo and I run and gun with a human engineer.  The gun is always just there for me.  I specifically quoted some muppet who put it on a solider class and declared it rubbish. Who was at the end of a long line of pitiful fools.  Who couldn't see beyond playing solider/inf classes with big guns.

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@Paradoxbound

I never intended to offend you my friend. It is an awesome weapon and in my opinion it's the best SMG in the game. I understand the angle you're coming from now, just got our wires crossed! Could definitely use a buff to the clip size and fix the overheating bug though!