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[charlieDotRose]

I have not had a single problem with the dragoons all day, i like them, the fact that you are screaming nerf them, shows you may not be as good as you think

[BLAHBLUE2001]

I don't see what's so difficult about the dragoons, my fury and justicar destroy them (at least on gold haven't tried platinum yet)

I feel that the only reason the dragoons are at times considered any more difficult is because in later waves they are followed closely by phantoms.

[Pinely]

They aren't particularly difficult to kill, but I would argue that they aren't very "fun" to fight. Fighting a Phantom is fun because it often feels like a duel, they go to cover, you go to cover, they stealth, etc . . . Guardians shields are fun to deal with, ripping them away, shooting through the slot, flanking them. Even husks are enjoyable as a kind of ego boost.

Dragoons, on the other hand, don't really do that much. They march towards you and generally die. They aren't quick to kill like husks, they aren't particularly smart like Phantoms, and they don't have an interesting mechanic like Guardians. The whip looks cool, but it isn't really different than the other varied enemy melee moves. You can't stasis them, or pull them, or freeze them, they don't have grenades or smoke. They can fire at range, but its nothing special. They're just fast moving fodder with armor.

Basically, I get why we have Dragoons, I just wish they were a little more entertaining to contend with. Maybe they could grab us Whiplash style? Or pull us towards them?

[LC-Manalishi]

I've only played against Cerberus twice so far. Both times gold (new Reactor and new White) and extracted both games. I don't find the Dragoon to be a big deal, but I think the best strategy is to kill them before they get too close - like Pyros. Also, I see people complaining that the general difficulty level seems increased. I don't see that.

[polymphus]

Dragoons kinda suck.

I mean, I tend to play brawlers like BatSol who can handle themselves up close but I've had no trouble dealing with them. They're basically phantoms with less health, no cloak and no sync kill. In exchange, they move a tiny bit faster. Boo hoo.

Modifié par polymphus, 10 octobre 2012 - 06:30 .

[Lenimph]

Nah they have good synergy with phantoms and actually make cerb just a bit harder like needed.

[Shpoon]

Stop being a big baby with your whining. Little bit of difficulty introduced & you poop your pants because you can't handle it. Get over it!

[Missnuki]

Dude, they have -like- 2 hit points. What level do you play on? Aluminum? What's next? Should we remove the insta-kills and enemy buffs/barriers so you can kill them easier? How about we take out the enemy guns, since they keep shooting at you.

If anything, Dragoons need to be buffed. They should hit harder. They should be faster. They need to wear some armor & cloaking would be nice. On top of that, Dragoons should have an insta-kill where he garrotes the player with one of  his biotic whips. That would be fun.

You wanna complain about something? The Drunk & Staggering Drone escort missions & The -now- useless Engineer Drones: Those are valid complaints.

Modifié par Missnuki, 10 octobre 2012 - 06:58 .

[AlexForward]

The Dragoons are fine. Yeah, they are fast. There are some difficulties with their smash-charge attack. But they have no protection except armor. And their armor is weak. I really disappointed about their abilities (and voice as well; just used Centurion's phrases). I thought their smash would be more fun. And Hornet... pff. Give them Claymore!
It is better to face 3 Dragoons than 1 Phantom.

Modifié par AlexForward, 10 octobre 2012 - 07:53 .

[waitingFOURlinux]

Anything that Smash one-shots is not an issue. Seeker swarms on the other hand ...

[IronRush]

No, no..
Dragoons are completely fine. Challenging? Yes... but perfect to balance Cerberus weakness.

[ZoliCs]

They are fine. And not that though either, i killed them with 1 BE

[DynamikDarryl]

Sentinel Paladin + Pirahna X + AP ammo = Dead Dragoon 

Modifié par DynamikDarryl, 10 octobre 2012 - 08:01 .

[Impius]

1. 1 biotic charge, 1 phase disrupter and 1 shot with talon, this guy is down and u get 1.000 xp
2. 1 incinerate, 1 heatshot with carnifex, 1 incinerate, 1 hit with carnifex, this guy is down adn u get 1.000 xp
3. etc.

This guy is not overpowered

[Binary_Helix 1]

IronRush wrote...

No, no..
Dragoons are completely fine. Challenging? Yes... but perfect to balance Cerberus weakness.

Agreed. Cerberus was too defensive and lacked aggressive upper tier units. The Phantom alone was literally carrying them.

[Warrenkh]

Perhaps, bioware can lengthen the time they will try to stomp. At the moment, they are doing it like right after a player fall. They should at least given other players a window of 4 to 5 secs to react + lag.

[DESTRAUDO]

theillusiveman11 wrote...

What do they do?

From what i played they acted as rushdown characters. Quickly learned to make them priority in a group of mixed mid range enemies as otherwise they will storm you and start lashing in the middle of the team. They are pretty agressive and can close distance quickly, and have armor.  

[Chobbly]

AlexForward wrote...

The Dragoons are fine. Yeah, they are fast. There are some difficulties with their smash-charge attack. But they have no protection except armor. And their armor is weak. I really disappointed about their abilities (and voice as well; just used Centurion's phrases). I thought their smash would be more fun. And Hornet... pff. Give them Claymore!
It is better to face 3 Dragoons than 1 Phantom.

Dealing with Dragoons and Phantoms at the same time can be a pain though, as I found out to my cost this morning

[Rohypnol]

Evo_9 wrote...

so you want the game to be easy?

thats what bronze is for my friend.

Dont speak for everyone, some like a challenge and find that fun.

[Titus Thongger]

go back to bronze.

[ilaardi]

Dragoons are lobotomized soldiers so they are too stupid to be nerfed.

[jordie3000]

They're less than entertaining when they come in a pack of 3, knock you down, a friend takes them down and you get picked up, and then immediately get stunlashed back down again because a couple more showed up out of the blue.

I guess I'm just not a huge fan of their tendency to group up and shrug off stuns like it ain't no thang.

I do not hate them as much as the new Praetorians and Geth Bombers, though. Good lord. F*ck a bunch of those ducks, srsly.

[Lexa_D]

Ironically, the only group the OP participates on the BSN is "No Nerfducks".

[XTR3M3]

part of the problem is people running around with the new classes screwing around trying to get used to them and not supporting the team very well. Once the novelty wears off the dragoons won't be a problem.

I do remember thinking "Holy Crap! do those new Cerberus guys have a lot of HPs/AR". I did seem to be able to take down an atlas with the same amount of rounds....or so it seemed. I am not going to post my set up for that for fear that BioWare will nerf it.

The dragoons lasted about as good as brutes. That is how I treat them.....lots of HP, strong, but stupid with no tactics except for straight ahead attack.

Modifié par XTR3M3, 10 octobre 2012 - 09:34 .

[InsomniaticMeat]

Dragoons are fine. And I play on Platinum =)