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#101
Kyerea

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1.) Put on a Piercing/Shredder/Anti-Armor weapon mod.

2.) Point gun at Dragoon and pull trigger.

3.) ???

4.) Profit!

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121210Olivia

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Kyerea wrote...

1.) Put on a Piercing/Shredder/Anti-Armor weapon mod.

2.) Point gun at Dragoon and pull trigger.

3.) ???

4.) Profit!


Hi Kye, *if only* it was that easy. I think the OP, and many other Gold players too, for that matter, are not finding the new demands on consumable usage (brought on by the new DLC) fun.

Hence, the appeal for changing the game mechanics (this thread happens to focus on the new dragoon faction) to reduce this newly added, unquestionably disliked non-fun element.

'Tis all.

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121210Olivia wrote...

Kyerea wrote...

1.) Put on a Piercing/Shredder/Anti-Armor weapon mod.

2.) Point gun at Dragoon and pull trigger.

3.) ???

4.) Profit!


Hi Kye, *if only* it was that easy. I think the OP, and many other Gold players too, for that matter, are not finding the new demands on consumable usage (brought on by the new DLC) fun.

Hence, the appeal for changing the game mechanics (this thread happens to focus on the new dragoon faction) to reduce this newly added, unquestionably disliked non-fun element.

'Tis all.


i dont know about you but i get a real adrenaline rush when my kroguard charges into a pile of dragoons and phantoms to come out on top of a pile of cerberus corpses.

feels good man

Modifié par Titus Thongger, 12 octobre 2012 - 07:24 .


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Darkelefantos1

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Kyerea wrote...

1.) Put on a Piercing/Shredder/Anti-Armor weapon mod.

2.) Point gun at Dragoon and pull trigger.

3.) ???

4.) Profit!


Pro-Tip: Fire is good against armour. 

#105
Impulse and Compulse

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They're just incredibly stupid, zombie-like in their behavior. I mean, I have a cerberus vanguard who defected from THAT?

Modifié par Impulse and Compulse, 12 octobre 2012 - 07:25 .


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They are fine. Their big attack has a HUGE animation tell that gives you time to get out of the way. Really easy to defeat these chumps.

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The dragoons per se are not a big issue. But when you have two dragoons and a phantom approaching you at the speed of light even running away screaming becomes kind of difficult

#108
SkreeMalicious

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Use a Krysae.
Knocks back all the enemies in blast radius.

Then use krysae again. Turns them to goo.

#109
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Dragons are so easy. You just overload them and while they are standing still for the next 5 seconds you just unload a few bullets to their head. How hard is it to hit a target that isn't moving?

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Cartmaniac wrote...

Dragons are so easy. You just overload them and while they are standing still for the next 5 seconds you just unload a few bullets to their head. How hard is it to hit a target that isn't moving?


yeah, because every single class got overload, right? :) for example, I can easily oneshot gold dragoons with Shadow Strike, but then there are other problems, like their ignorance of my tactical cloak or the massive hordes of them, when it´s hard to deal with them all (+ phantoms and other stuff)  fast enough

#111
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Decrease their armour and HP, even on silver they take as much punishment as an Atlas almost

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As far as I've noticed they mostly spawn at the start of the waves and in groups. So taking them down first isn't a problem as they are in quite a hurry to get to you first. If you have at least one teammate with you it shouldn't be a problem.

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I suggest to split his total life points in half armor and half health. So when you destroy his armor, at least you can put him into stasis.

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A good balance for the dragoon should be:

- Decrease the damage of their ranged attack.
- Increase Health
- Increase melee damage.
- And they need to make more noise. Phantoms are the "silent ninjas", not the Dragoons.

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sirdario1986

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Faced individually they're not that powerful, you can knock 'em back with a power like Balistic Blades and then headshot them quite easily.
The problem is when they come in a group of five/six, plus a couple of Phantoms...if you're doing a gold solo it's a nightmare; so I don't think Dragoons must be nerfed, the way they come should be changed...

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I used to like playing against the cerberus and geth but now hate all the races. I am slowly losing interest the way things are going in this game. I also got d/c out of every game I played today.

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Learn to dodge.

#118
sirdario1986

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C2Dre wrote...

Learn to dodge.

Dodging is not always that simple; for three reasons:

1. Dragoon won't stop walking towards you; if you don't stun him, you can jump like a kangaroo, but he will reach you soon or later. 
If we're done at point one than dodging is hard, but really not impossible; but:
2. Dragoon won't come alone; you can dodge one jumping lash, two at once, maybe three, but four or five?! No way, you cannot just "dodge" when half a dozen Dragoons are approaching you.
3. Let's say you've got a stunning power, a stunning weapon and a piercing ammo: because of point 1 and 2 you're forced to walk backwards, but even if you can kill all the Dragoons in this way( trying not to consider Phantoms that usually come with 'em), do you really think nothing will shoot or hit you while you're walking blind?!?

No, dodging is useful, but not enaugh.

Modifié par sirdario1986, 12 octobre 2012 - 01:29 .


#119
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I don't get the folks complaining about the Dragoons' Smash going through walls. Most of our attacks go through walls. You think a possible nerf is going to affect just  the Dragoons? Learn to play. Shoot them in the face.

I still say: Buff the Dragoon.

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Dragoons need to have Armor/Health, not just plain Armor.

Or they need another AI. The way they are, they aren't much fun while playing caster classes.

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stysiaq wrote...

Dragoons need to have Armor/Health, not just plain Armor.

Or they need another AI. The way they are, they aren't much fun while playing caster classes.


My "caster classes" mop the floor with Dragoons.

Protip: Carry a weapon that doesn't suck.

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stysiaq

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Ashen Earth wrote...

stysiaq wrote...

Dragoons need to have Armor/Health, not just plain Armor.

Or they need another AI. The way they are, they aren't much fun while playing caster classes.


My "caster classes" mop the floor with Dragoons.

Protip: Carry a weapon that doesn't suck.


The fact that the Dragoons can be fought with ease, doesn't change the fact that their concept is cheap and frustrating.

Currently I use Raptor, Hornet or Talon for challenge reasons. It can be hard with Raptor.

No need to be an immediate ass, man.

#123
Jackville Assington

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just make a bunch of Zerglings or use a Dranzer

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So far I faced them on Silver( EVERY GODAMN PUBLIC GOLD SERVERI ENTER IS GETH AND FIREBASE WHITE!).

And they're a joke.

Yeah, they are.



I don't see the complaint.
I have more troubles with Centurions then with them.


OK, I should see them in action on Gold, but on Silver they're lame.

#125
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stysiaq wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

stysiaq wrote...

Dragoons need to have Armor/Health, not just plain Armor.

Or they need another AI. The way they are, they aren't much fun while playing caster classes.


My "caster classes" mop the floor with Dragoons.

Protip: Carry a weapon that doesn't suck.


The fact that the Dragoons can be fought with ease, doesn't change the fact that their concept is cheap and frustrating.

Currently I use Raptor, Hornet or Talon for challenge reasons. It can be hard with Raptor.

No need to be an immediate ass, man.


Is it "being an ass" to find it somewhat funny when people complain that they are having issues when those issues are self imposed?