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[Deathcrave]

As the title says the removal of the player shieldgate or healthgate has made it near impossible to survive the most basic of attacks.

Currently anything using an automatic weapon will down you instantly if your shield gets close to zero, since enemies do more damage to health than shields.

I propose since they removed the shieldgate of players that they either give everyone a 30% bonus to base health, or make all enemies deal 50% less damage to health.

It is annoying to die in one canibal burst if my shield is even around 20%.

On a side note Volus health is too low, plain and simple. I get they have a free cloak but it doesnt last, and with the shieldgate removal all I see with any volus player around is a dead volus every 4 seconds.

As is Volus taking up an ultra rare is an injustice to us as players, as an ultra rare we get a character that is seemingly useless outside of being a support. Even then they die so often its hard to understand the logic in their design, hard to support while your dead every few seconds.

Hope Bioware sees this, and I hope they listen. I am fine dieing to something that should kill me, but a few stray bullets just shouldnt be what is killing me every single time.

[Impulse and Compulse]

Did they really do that? I seemed to be dying a lot faster....

If they did, that's kind of a dick move.

[quack123]

Yea its pretty grating

[Foxtrot813]

I thought I was feeling a little dumpier. I was attributing it to post-return rust, but now I think Bioware's just messing with me.

[Omnifarious Nef]

Is that why I'm instantly going down so often? I just though I was rusty was all. The game seems really hard, even on silver, and I die in just a few shots with max fitness and shield amps... A Scion can two shot me, and they fire two shots within 1-2 seconds of each other. Sometimes two Scions fire at the exact same time and insta kill me from across the map.

Modifié par NeferiusX3, 10 octobre 2012 - 04:25 .

[Leeeeeroy jenkins]

Well that explains a lot... The game feels wayyy harder now. I thought the whole point of adding platinum was to have that be the crazy mode, not normal matches.

[Amnesiotic]

I've been sucking pretty hard lately and this is why. I based my playstyle around calculated use of the SG mechanic and am having a hell of a time adjusting.

[Kataigida]

They didn't remove any of the player gates. Shield and Health gates still exist, but that doesn't mean that high-damage attacks won't bleed past the shield gate (like an atlas rocket). As for Health Gate, nothing will 'bleed' past it, but any automatic weapon/DoT power will basically ignore it.

[Epique Phael767]

I agree. since when do you get cross-room oneshotted by guardians?

[Blissey1]

My understanding is that this is just a bug causing shield\\health gate to not happen sometimes. They didn't intentionally remove it.

[GGW KillerTiger]

When did we lose shield/health gates?

[quack123]

Blissey1 wrote...

My understanding is that this is just a bug causing shieldhealth gate to not happen sometimes. They didn't intentionally remove it.

Then it needs to be fixed

[CommanderWilliams]

That explains Gold being so much goddamn harder lately. Hope they fix it soon.

[RGFrog]

Yep, really notice it on my characters that are always losing shields. Like my fury.

Pretty much dead all the time now. Especially stupid when I've just popped an ops pack that is gone from one hit.

Oh, and having full health, full shields. One hit from an atlas that doesn't completely kill shields but DoT's my health.

[Lord Rosario]

Volus health is fine as long as the shield/health gate is restored. If a Volus is going down every 4 seconds, they are doing it wrong.. Instant shield restoring power on top of their heavy melee and cloak to escape is difficult to screw up...

[corporal doody]

Kataigida wrote...

They didn't remove any of the player gates. Shield and Health gates still exist, but that doesn't mean that high-damage attacks won't bleed past the shield gate (like an atlas rocket). As for Health Gate, nothing will 'bleed' past it, but any automatic weapon/DoT power will basically ignore it.

you ever been shot by a cannibal since the patch....while at full health and shields? been shot by 2 ?  yeahh.....

[Deathcrave]

Has only happened since the Retaliation DLC.

Since I have had it happen against every enemy type and in every single game it is not likely a bug.

To anyone saying that the shieldgate was not removed then you either have not played on anything past bronze or are very out of the loop. Shieldgate is gone, and it makes no sense.

I have not been able to do gold since I am afraid with the changes to this mechanic being so hard even on silver that gold would be impossible without a coordinated team.

Heavy attacks are not meant to "Bleed through" your last sliver of shield that is the point of the shield gate. Canibals should not be killing me in 1 burst if I have any shield, yet they can do over 1k damage to my health in one burst, but it takes them 2-4 bursts to take my shield from full to zero that makes no sense.

I would like Bioware to coment on this, it upsets me to feel so weak even on silver when I normally can walkthrough it almost solo. My skill didnt go away, when im not getting shot I can wipe out an entire enemy squad rapidly. But once you get shot you die much faster than you should.

[jpraelster93]

quack123 wrote...

Blissey1 wrote...

My understanding is that this is just a bug causing shieldhealth gate to not happen sometimes. They didn't intentionally remove it.

Then it needs to be fixed

[Eckswhyzed]

I haven't noticed any problems. Can someone record some footage of this "bug" on host?

[Gamemako]

Lord Rosario wrote...

Volus health is fine as long as the shield/health gate is restored. If a Volus is going down every 4 seconds, they are doing it wrong.. Instant shield restoring power on top of their heavy melee and cloak to escape is difficult to screw up...

Atlas rockets now have DoT, you know. That melts through the 40 health in your last bar before you can even recover from the stagger to use shield regen.

[Sparbiter]

I'd be onboard with increasing player health by 25% AND fixing the shieldgate or whatever.

[jacob taylor416]

I thought the enemy just got a lot tougher, thanks OP; any way whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Bioware?

[Delta_V2]

Deathcrave wrote...

Has only happened since the Retaliation DLC.

Since I have had it happen against every enemy type and in every single game it is not likely a bug.

To anyone saying that the shieldgate was not removed then you either have not played on anything past bronze or are very out of the loop. Shieldgate is gone, and it makes no sense.

I have not been able to do gold since I am afraid with the changes to this mechanic being so hard even on silver that gold would be impossible without a coordinated team.

Heavy attacks are not meant to "Bleed through" your last sliver of shield that is the point of the shield gate. Canibals should not be killing me in 1 burst if I have any shield, yet they can do over 1k damage to my health in one burst, but it takes them 2-4 bursts to take my shield from full to zero that makes no sense.

I would like Bioware to coment on this, it upsets me to feel so weak even on silver when I normally can walkthrough it almost solo. My skill didnt go away, when im not getting shot I can wipe out an entire enemy squad rapidly. But once you get shot you die much faster than you should.

From what I've seen in Silver and Gold, the shield-gate itself seems to still be there, but its duration has either been reduced or disappeared entirely.  One shot from a Scion will only bring me to shield-gate, like its supposed to, but damage from other sources will immediately affect health.  There used to be a split-second after losing shield-gate where you wouldn't take damage, but it seems to have disappeared.

[Deathcrave]

jacob taylor416 wrote...

I thought the enemy just got a lot tougher, thanks OP; any way whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Bioware?

Well sure if they gave the enemy 100% bonus damage to players below 20% shield, but more likely they just took away OUR shieldgate.

People thinking its a bug, it is not it happenes every single death it is not a bug. Bugs only happen every once in a while, this happens to me every death now.

If your not noticing it your either - Playing Bronze - Not getting shot - or not very observent.

[RoZh2400]

Actually...shieldgate is working fine. Health gate is broken. And yeah, bioware should be working on that. I've seen a LOT of threads about this already. Just use the search bar...