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[Richter Harken]

Reizo Ryuu wrote... 

this was no different from how we could still get instant killed after using an ops pack(pre-patch).

And still do. Their fix for ops packs has been as successful as their various fixes for the vanguard glitch.
I wasted 10 to 15 ops packs that didn't do anything as I instantly died right after using them last night. They're just as useless as they were last week.

[Bone3ater]

cgj wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

noeschi wrote...

cgj wrote...

shield gate and health gate are still there and fine

even if that's not the case, SOMETHING has changed or is bugged. I don't understand how a few people here can ignore the fact, that so much people have problems after the patch/DLC. They must be idiots or bad players, is it that what you think?

RedJohn has commented that something has changed as well. I doubt many would consider him a scrub player.

hello !!!? what has changed is new enemies units and new faction ! not gating system
just because you don't know the patterns of new enemies and die more you need an excuse huh ?

what's with people talking about rapid firing weapon now killing you faster, marauders and such never gave a **** about gating system and have always been priority targets

i'm not ignoring the fact that people struggle, i'm merely stating this is not the reason for their struggle

So, what you're basically telling experienced Plat and Gold players is that they're wrong because you don't experience it and/or don't realize it. And you're also insulting everybody by saying that we "need an excuse".

I find your entire post pretty damn offending if I might say so.

[DinkumGem]

This reminds me so much as to when they changed the game matching to match you based on N7 level. Bioware was very slow to admit they changed anything and only provided terse statements after much complaining by the player base. It is definitely possible to get use to the new game mechanic, we're back to u/u/p. This is ME3 multiplayer 2.0, no camping, no farming, and best to stay together since your likely to be quickly downed when exposed to fire.

[jakenou]

Yeah - I'm definitely not seeing the supposed patch change to ops pack use, and I'm certainly using them more frequently now - to very little or no effect.

To add - Not only am I going down much more often, with health and shield gates seemingly dropping quicker than ever, but on many occasions I have found myself downed with no offender listed in the kill feed. Sometimes it says what got me, but other times it's a mystery.

It seems like the big bosses aren't the ones putting out the damage either, even with the fixes to primes, banshees, etc. It was easy enough to adapt to their changes, adjust tactics, and commence to successfully take them out. Now it seems like it's the little guys you really have to watch out for. One cannibal that you didn't see will take you down in a fraction of the time it takes for a boss to down you.

[DeltaSerpentis.m]

RobotWalk wrote...

My turian infiltrator has stimpacks for mega defense because Stealth-Tanks rule. Done rolled up against a Scion. I said "Pssssssssshhhhhyearite, I got 4000 shields bring it," cloaked, popped stimpack, and got ready to get hilariously destructive with my Harrier.

Except I got oneshot.

Ain't nobody got time for that!

First:  We need more posts like this.

Second:  I agree something feels different, I notice it more with my beloved Shadow than any of the other classes, but there is something...off.

That said, absolute domination of the enemy is is still possible, even with pugs.  I had a pug last night (2 Krogaurd, 2 Gethfiltrators) absolutely steamroll Glacier/Cerberus/Gold in 16:36 last night, probably the most statisfying game I've played in a while.  

[CROAT_56]

I have been downed more times by mooks in the past three days then my entire mass effect 3 MP experience (97 hours)

[Arcataye]

CROAT_56 wrote...

I have been downed more times by mooks in the past three days then my entire mass effect 3 MP experience (97 hours)

Ha, it sure feels that way. Something is definitely changed - never died this much before the patch+dlc.
I really don't like it, but I guess it's just something to get used to - unless it's reversed back to how ever it was before.
No BW post about this anywhere yet? It took quite some time for the N7-rank based matchmaking to be confirmed.

Modifié par Arcataye, 11 octobre 2012 - 05:33 .

[Dilandau3000]

DeltaSerpentis.m wrote...

Second:  I agree something feels different, I notice it more with my beloved Shadow than any of the other classes, but there is something...off.

That said, absolute domination of the enemy is is still possible, even with pugs.  I had a pug last night (2 Krogaurd, 2 Gethfiltrators) absolutely steamroll Glacier/Cerberus/Gold in 16:36 last night, probably the most statisfying game I've played in a while.  

I agree. Something is definitely different, I think the lack of a delay on damage taken after hitting the gate is probably it, but still, in the last two days I have not died any more than I usually did. I have not had any more trouble than I usually do. I haven't used any more consumables (in fact, I've barely used any), and I've succeeded (at least partial extraction) on all matches (more than a dozen; mostly silver, one or two gold). I can recall maybe one or two times when I died that I think it could be attributed to this change.

And I'm not a good player. I'm mediocre at best. I guess it's a difference in play style, I never play the tank classes and I hate CQC except for the Shadow (which I'm still equally effective with except having to learn not to use shadow strike on possessed abominations  ).

Modifié par Dilandau3000, 11 octobre 2012 - 05:35 .

[mykejm]

jkthunder wrote...

To add - Not only am I going down much more often, with health and shield gates seemingly dropping quicker than ever, but on many occasions I have found myself downed with no offender listed in the kill feed.

I forgot about that but you're right!  This has happened to me, too.

[Chobbly]

I'm sure something will be forthcoming. They may even be investigating before commenting.

[Dilandau3000]

mykejm wrote...

jkthunder wrote...

To add - Not only am I going down much more often, with health and shield gates seemingly dropping quicker than ever, but on many occasions I have found myself downed with no offender listed in the kill feed.

I forgot about that but you're right!  This has happened to me, too.

That used to happen all the time pre-DLC as well.

[NuclearTech76]

cgj wrote...

hello !!!? what has changed is new enemies units and new faction ! not gating system
just because you don't know the patterns of new enemies and die more you need an excuse huh ?

what's with people talking about rapid firing weapon now killing you faster, marauders and such never gave a **** about gating system and have always been priority targets

i'm not ignoring the fact that people struggle, i'm merely stating this is not the reason for their struggle

Again this is a phenomenon noticed by most people I play with and with several people who log a lot of play time on BSN. Some are very good to exceptional players.

I've logged well over a thousand games on Gold with mostly full extractions, I think I'm cool on the patterns of new enemies. Thanks.

[SaintTweeter]

If this takes another patch, that may not happen for several months, I might finally be done with this MP game. I don't care about buffing or nerfing of guns skills or everything else, but a radical shift in gameplay that may not be fixed is pretty bad.

[jakenou]

Dilandau3000 wrote...

mykejm wrote...

jkthunder wrote...

To add - Not only am I going down much more often, with health and shield gates seemingly dropping quicker than ever, but on many occasions I have found myself downed with no offender listed in the kill feed.

I forgot about that but you're right!  This has happened to me, too.

That used to happen all the time pre-DLC as well.

I noticed it before the DLC as well, but it never happened anywhere near as frequently as it seems to now. Maybe it's because I'm going down more often, making the odds a little higher, but it doesn't make it right and it just feels... off.

[cgj]

Bone3ater wrote...


So, what you're basically telling experienced Plat and Gold players is that they're wrong because you don't experience it and/or don't realize it. And you're also insulting everybody by saying that we "need an excuse".

I find your entire post pretty damn offending if I might say so.

i'm an experienced plat and Gold player, i do experience the 'dying more easily' thingy against  mostly cerberus
geth got easier, nothing changed with reapers, and i have yet to figure out collectors entirely
and yes it was meant to be an aggressive post, after what the other guy told me

shield and health gate are working properly !
it never saved you from marauders, centurions .... which is what a lot of people complain about
and it still saves you from OS which is what it always did

i do not believe that this kind of issue would only apply to some and not to others
it's everyone or no-one
it still works, for me and every of the PUG mates i've had so far ( when a volus survives 2 geth prime shots without having used Shield boost, it means his gates worked)

so if 'dying more easily' isn't coming from shield and health gate, then where is it coming from
think for yourself

Modifié par cgj, 11 octobre 2012 - 05:50 .

[Chobbly]

@cgj, you say you haven't experienced or noticed anything different, that's cool.

Others including myself have noticed something different though. Which is why it would be great to have an official comment on the situation.

[Vlk3]

And here I was wondering why I keep dying and being such a burden for my crew...

[cgj]

Chobbly wrote...

@cgj, you say you haven't experienced or noticed anything different, that's cool.

Others including myself have noticed something different though. Which is why it would be great to have an official comment on the situation.

see, you noticed something different, something, something, something, it doesn't mean it's the gates
at first , guys asked if gate got changed because something felt different, and without any word from BW nor any test from our usual testers, it's been like if it were a fact that shield and health gates were gone

i've noticed differences too, but then agains couldn't that simply be .. i don't know, a lot of things, including new units and new faction, along with the huge patch from a week ago

[shumworld]

I was wondering why I would die so easily. LAME!

[LukC]

Last match nemesis killed me about 10 times, this is getting seriously annoying, as I was rocking a destroyer with shield booster V :/

[Reizo Ryuu]

I'm with cgj on this one, the gates are working just fine imo.

[sareth_65536]

the title and most of the posts about "gates not working at all" are so damn confusing and wrong.
That small immunity after shield gate I never was aware about is really gone. It doesn't bother me tho.

Modifié par sareth_65536, 11 octobre 2012 - 06:11 .

[ask83]

sareth_65536 wrote...

the title and most of the posts about "gates not working at all" are so damn confusing and wrong.
That small immunity after shield gate I never was aware about is really gone. It doesn't bother me tho.

Pretty much this, which would explain being downed more often by troopers than other units.  That small time of immunity could let you get to cover from sustained rifle fire.  Now shields + 2-3 bars of health will go. 

[Deathcrave]

Still waiting on Bioware to comment.

Until then I will put it in as simple a way as possible so no one mis understands.

1. A player with 1600+ shield a week ago could survive almost anything, even a Nemesis shot only took 50% of your shields, now they take them all and if you were even slightly low shield you also have their damage bleed into your health.

2. Just because you dont notice it does not mean it isnt changed. Try looking at coins or money in your wallet, bet you wont reconize most of the fine detailed changes. But they do change all the time.

3. If you think the shieldgate and healthgates work fine right now your very wrong. You are just a troll and are the reason the game is broken right now. The so called "Balance" complainers wanted a harder game, even though it was never easy to begin with. We got trolled by all the complainers, which is what they wanted.

[Deathcrave]

Richter Harken wrote...

Reizo Ryuu wrote... 

this was no different from how we could still get instant killed after using an ops pack(pre-patch).

And still do. Their fix for ops packs has been as successful as their various fixes for the vanguard glitch.
I wasted 10 to 15 ops packs that didn't do anything as I instantly died right after using them last night. They're just as useless as they were last week.

Yeah the invulnerability came from gaining a bonus shieldgate, with them removed we get nothing.

Makes ops packs useless, heck I have noticed that putting LESS points in fitness helps me now, at least all my other powers are full that way. Cause as is I notice no difference between a character with 1600 shields and one with only 500 shields.