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Player Shield/Healthgate removal is the worst thing to happen since the Vangaurd Glitch.


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Nitrocuban

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And people are forced to buy equipement instead of Spectre Packs. And farming on White/Glacier is impossible.
All this increases the chance that some people spend real money to get stuff faster.
Sounds like a crazy tinfoil hat conspiracy, but one can not deny that all this is quite conveniente with the biggest DLC out and all players coming back to check out the Collectors.

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Tal_Elmar wrote...

This is not some hepothetical gamers' attitide and it's not about challenge. It's just about cheap artificial increase in difficulty. Cheap as the Geth, in fact. As many-many people said in the thread, many classes are now pretty unplayable above silver. You wanna play SR infiltrator or stay in cover all the time? You won't go down easily. If you enjoy meleeing or agressive behaviour, you are screwed. I can't really top the scores with my Vorcha anymore.
What is worse, I don't see the need for this change.

AND BW are silent again 


this is not true...all classes are playable above silver...the only difference is now you have to work as a team, and it seems a lot that play the game werent playing like that before....it was all about individual...what you said is a prime example of that: you cant top the scores anymore with the vorcha...so that means something is wrong/broken? that class isnt playable above silver?....no....

now that i think, i bet that's where all this about shield/health gate removal is coming from: people arent topping the scores any more, so that means something must be wrong...no, it just means the lone wolf/ramboing that worked before doesnt work now...the game is finally a co-op game, like bw intended from the beginning...

also, BW answered and said nothing has been changed, so what's your response now?

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Volus needs a serious boost to shields due to these pathetic changes. I have to use my Volus Engineer like a ninja in order to survive on gold and I'm not exactly inexperienced. I've extracted Gold w/ Volus around 7 times but it's a sick joke that within 1 second of being out in the open to be downed by a cannibal or other such nonsense. If I am revived during a heated battle and even after using my Shield Boost I still can be downed within a second or two after the fact. It's rediculous. And yes even if I use cloak. Volus is fun but I have to pull all the stops to put out a solid performance with this character meanwhile I can come out on top or 2nd place very consistently in the leaderboards with almost any other character. Fix the Volus.

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BioWare really likes to troll us.

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They finally comment and like I expected Bioware claims there isnt a problem.

However I noticed a MAJOR difference in my friday playtime than on tuesday wednesday and thursday. I actually could survive more than 1 hit, and silver wasnt epic mode hard. But having higher health still seems to be pointless I notice no difference in having 500 health or having 1200 health.

So it would seem they added a hotfix of some kind on friday, or maybe it was just because of a server problem they fixed but they still need to fix health.

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whateverman7 wrote...


this is not true...all classes are playable above silver...the only difference is now you have to work as a team, and it seems a lot that play the game werent playing like that before....it was all about individual...what you said is a prime example of that: you cant top the scores anymore with the vorcha...so that means something is wrong/broken? that class isnt playable above silver?....no....

now that i think, i bet that's where all this about shield/health gate removal is coming from: people arent topping the scores any more, so that means something must be wrong...no, it just means the lone wolf/ramboing that worked before doesnt work now...the game is finally a co-op game, like bw intended from the beginning...

also, BW answered and said nothing has been changed, so what's your response now?





You know what the problem is, no matter how Bioware "intended" the game to be played, no one really cares & no one really plays the game like they should; using teamwork to win. It's common sense - make a horde-style game, and you should work as a team to survive/win. But the fact is that 90% of gamers want to be on the top of the scoreboard when a game is done, so teamwork hardly occurs in this type of setting. If it means stealing kills (waitin 2 put the last shot in 2 get the kill), blocking shots & standing in front of someone who's scoped in, or whatever, people are gonna do it and not play the game the way it was intended to be played. ALL horde/co-op style games are played the same way because of all the competitiveness online. I would love to be able to jump on a game full of randoms & never worry about teamwork (cause in a perfect world, everyone's lookin out 4 eachother & using teamwork), but no matter how many times Bioware changes things with weapons/characters/items/enemy updates, it's never gonna work the way they (or you) wanted it to. Just face it - this game will NEVER be played the way they want us to play it cause we (society) are raised to be #1 in everything we do, and that includes placing higher on the leaderboard at the end of the game.

And what dude was sayin about the Vorcha - he wants to be able to play solo if he chooses (cause I know there's a lot of randoms out there who mess up my gaming experience in MANY horrible ways), and with the constant changes to weapons, enemies, health/shield gates, maps, etc - it's becoming near impossible to do that since everything either gets nerfed if it's overpowered, or something somewhere changes for the worst & you have to suffer and play with randoms who don't know what the hell is going on, which further ruins the experience. So what if people liked to camp on firebase white. If they like to play that way (and that's the only way they play) Bioware just came along and pretty much told them "you gotta play the game how WE want, not how YOU want". And do you also not realize that most kids on here don't understand the concept of working together or they don't know how to use bio/tech powers? Bioware keeps coming along and ruining the fun for people by taking away the only way they know how to have fun on this game. If a person loved to be a awesome sniper, guess what - the Krysae was the go-to weapon. But now? NOPE! Useless. How about the people who love to melee? NOPE! Can't even face off against hordes of enemies without getting downed or insta-killed in seconds. Assault rifles? Weak. SMG's . .lol. Bio/tech powers? They get nerfed constantly cause some group of high level people who are used to winning are now getting pwned by someone with an N7 rating of 100, so they complain, now those powers are useless. Long story short - you can't play/enjoy games above silver anymore cause Bioware just takes away the tools to get the job done.

But I digress . . . DO NOT even say a thing about health/shield gates being the fake or made up. Just because BW said everything was alright doesn't mean it is. It is a real issue thats occuring right now, and BW said its alright because they dont stress test like the community does. Don't you realize that they always ask for feedback because they don't get to see all the bugs/glitches/etc with the resources they're provided with? They dont have the time or budget to test content as throughly as the community can, so when a fix comes along, it's because of the community's feedback. But put aside that . . . what about when BW said they fixed the rocket glitch? Just because they said it, did you immediately believe that their word was the be-all end-all to that rocket problem? Cause from what you're saying now, if BW says its good, then there's never anymore problems, right?? WRONG! I'm not insulting BW, but even after they thought they fixed the rocket glitch, and announced it was fixed, people were somehow magically doing it. Then they released a patch that supposedly fixed it. Said they fixed it AGAIN. But guess what, it was still happening! So do me a favor, don't go poking at this dude to try to get him to fight back about a subject that YOU clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

The healthgate issue has ruined games that my friends and I thought we had in the bag MANY times since the patch dropped 2 weeks ago, so before you start attacking someone (and being naieve when someone says something's fixed), get your facts straight or don't bother speaking at all. This game would be better off holding back a DLC pack to fix the bugs rather than blasting out free content at a crazy rate. Free isn't fun when it's full of bugs, and NO ONE WILL EVER play the game the way BW intended, so stop with this "teamwork bla bla bla" stuff. It's actually gonna get worse now that theres challenges . . people are gonna try harder to get the most points, they're gonna bring the wrong weapons with the wrong characters to the higher difficulty, and it's gonna ruin even more games. Expect the fan base to drop even more now that the competitiveness is going to get worse.

And next time you just randomly fall over even though you haven't been shot since your shields went down, tell me health gate doesn't exist.