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Player Shield/Healthgate removal is the worst thing to happen since the Vangaurd Glitch.


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#201
masswor5

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I like it like this actually.

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cipherknight

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Because of this problem or "feature" marauders, centurions,cannibals, assault troopers and geth troopers are practically a death sentence even on at mid/long Range .can we get a bioware staff member to comment on this please?

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Drummernate

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I don't know what you guys are talking about...

Even when I am using the Geth and Volus I still can take 3 Prime shots before going down...

And the last bar of health still has the super triple the health of the other bars effect when getting shot by full auto guns.

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I've noticed a real change in difficulty since Retaliation as well. It's taken a bit of getting used to, and I'm having to hug cover much more often. I'm seeing a lot more mission failures as well, even on Silver.

Maybe it's just a case of adapting to the new challenge, but to be fair with the new enemies and the changes made to existing enemies, having my health bar vanish the instant my shields drain is literally a killer.

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Drummernate wrote...

I don't know what you guys are talking about...

Even when I am using the Geth and Volus I still can take 3 Prime shots before going down...

And the last bar of health still has the super triple the health of the other bars effect when getting shot by full auto guns.



You can say whatever you want, there is any problem with the gates. Sometimes they work and sometimes not. I normally play with a good team and we always played U/U/G without any problems. Yesterday we had games without any problem and then we had a few, we get downed like flies.

I've tried a Destroyer with devmode for max Shields, a cyclonic 4 and was down from full health and shields within 2 seconds, without getting hit by a big guy. Sometimes you go down so fast, that you dont even see that you get hit buy something.  My buddies also experienced this and they are solid gold players. We still get extractions, but it can't be, that you always have to use all the consumables to get trough Gold because of that ****

Modifié par noeschi, 11 octobre 2012 - 01:53 .


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CROAT_56

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noeschi wrote...

Drummernate wrote...

I don't know what you guys are talking about...

Even when I am using the Geth and Volus I still can take 3 Prime shots before going down...

And the last bar of health still has the super triple the health of the other bars effect when getting shot by full auto guns.



You can say whatever you want, there is any problem with the gates. Sometimes they work and sometimes not. I normally play with a good team and we always played U/U/G without any problems. Yesterday we had games without any problem and then we had a few, we get downed like flies.

I've tried a Destroyer with devmode for max Shields, a cyclonic 4 and was down from full health and shields within 2 seconds, without getting hit by a big guy. Sometimes you go down so fast, that you dont even see that you get hit buy something.  My buddies also experienced this and they are solid gold players. We still get extractions, but it can't be, that you always have to use all the consumables to get trough Gold because of that ****


That happened to me last night full health and shields rounded a corner and just fell no enemies around kill feed didn't even say I was downed.  Not sure but am assuming that this is a bug that they are looking into and are just not mentioning it.

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NuclearTech76

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There was a very brief period when something broke shield gate or health gate where you had a split second of invulnerability but now it is gone. You instantly take damage and drop in sustained weapon fire.

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NuclearTech76

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This is a helluva lot worse than the vanguard glitch as it effects every class in the game.

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m4dh4xx0r

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I don't know how some people haven't experienced this yet. Wish someone at BW would comment. It's made the game considerably less enjoyable for myself. Gold used to be fun, now it's just frustrating.

In the mean time I'm playing on silver, but that means less credits, and it's not as difficult as the old Gold.

Anyone else suspect this may have been done on purpose to decrease the amount of credits people earn?

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Yeah this problem is frustating me to not even want to play.

Before silvr was easy enough I might only use at most 1 consumable now I am lucky if i only need to use 4.

Still waiting on Bioware staff to comment on this.

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kelly ripas bicep

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I'd really like it if this got fixed - bump for necessity

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m4dh4xx0r wrote...

I don't know how some people haven't experienced this yet. Wish someone at BW would comment. It's made the game considerably less enjoyable for myself. Gold used to be fun, now it's just frustrating.

In the mean time I'm playing on silver, but that means less credits, and it's not as difficult as the old Gold.

Anyone else suspect this may have been done on purpose to decrease the amount of credits people earn?


I would hope not. That could be seen as being a bit mercenary if it was the case, so am happy to think that it's just a bug or undocumented feature that needs plugging.

For Bioware staff it's probably about 8 or so in the morning so imagine that if they respond it will be anytime from now going forwards.

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Rotacioskapa

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It must be fixed.

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Chobbly wrote...

I would hope not. That could be seen as being a bit mercenary if it was the case, so am happy to think that it's just a bug or undocumented feature that needs plugging.

For Bioware staff it's probably about 8 or so in the morning so imagine that if they respond it will be anytime from now going forwards.


I only mention it b/c there were threads about it all day yesterday.  Seemed like they were commenting on everything except this.  Hoping it's a bug too.

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NuclearTech76

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DNC Protoman wrote...

Bioware most likely isn't commenting because we're correct in the gates being gone. They don't want the massive backlash from confirming it.

Whether they comment on it or not, people know there has been some change. Most people's in game experiences tell them that.

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Deathcrave

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It may be a bug or something they added, either way it needs to be addressed.

If they chose to add it they need to say so, un documented changes in a game where the majority of changes are listed in patch notes is a big no no.

If it is a bug yeah it is ruining their game and needs to be fixed.

Hopefully Bioware comments sometime today on this in a sticky at the top of the forums.
I want my shieldgate/healthgate back or make enemies deal like 35% less damage so I dont die to 1 cannibal burst.

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Ezmarii

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Man....you're telling me it took this long to get even ONE patch rolled out...and our defenses are compromized by a new bug? I was just going to start trying to play again...I am a silver player still ( mostly). if this game is too much harder what is even the point? I have friends that won't even leave bronze or silver to attempt gold with me because they can't earn credits fast enough to play with the equip that they want.

Was this patch and dlc focused on the hardcore players and ruining it for us casuals? Where is the balance? Also please don't take 3 or 5 months to fix whatever this bug is. :(

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Oh. Well that explains that.
I wondered how i was getting mown down so fast. I used like 4 medigels trying to run away from 3 marauders. Wondered why they were killing me so easily.
Well now i know another reason i'm getting my arse handed to me on gold now.

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Deathcrave wrote...

Yeah this problem is frustating me to not even want to play.

Before silvr was easy enough I might only use at most 1 consumable now I am lucky if i only need to use 4.

Still waiting on Bioware staff to comment on this.


Yeah, i feel the same, right now i don't feel like playing MP as much as i was two days ago. If this is not addressed, i rather stay playing RE6.

Modifié par Exicuren, 11 octobre 2012 - 03:13 .


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Chobbly

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Hopefully we should get a comment or clarification soon. There's a difference between hard and unfair, and you could argue that losing shield/healthgate is an unfair change, whether intentional or (as I prefer to believe) unintentional.

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Something definitely changed. OH RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING.


Shield/health gate is still here though.

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NuclearTech76

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I expect the "working at originally intended" line but hope for something more.

Would be nice if they at least addressed the issue. Keep bumping the thread and I'm sure someone will comment on it.

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Overcome, adapt, improvise.... Yeah, I get that. But, something has definitely changed. I would like to know if the current shield/health mechanics are working-as-intended.

If so, then, yes, we'll figure it out and get better.

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winelanv44 wrote...

Overcome, adapt, improvise.... Yeah, I get that. But, something has definitely changed. I would like to know if the current shield/health mechanics are working-as-intended.

If so, then, yes, we'll figure it out and get better.


Accepted, but that doesn't explain why enemies/factions are made tougher and health/shield gates are removed at the same time. I'm inclinded to think it's been removed by accident.

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Death definitely comes more quickly now and it is immensely annoying. I like a good challenge, but as someone who mostly plays with PUGs on Gold/Platinum, I have to say that this sucks. Now making enough money to unlock the new items is going to be even more of a pain in the ass.

Modifié par GeneralElectric, 11 octobre 2012 - 03:32 .