Lotion Soronnar wrote...
If you consider not fighting the blight betrayl, then you should hunt down every ferelden man and woman who fled the blight and kill them.
The argument there is that it's a betrayal for either of two reasons (or both of them, of course). Please note that I don't necessarily agree with these opinions, I'm just pointing out why people see it as different.
1. It's a betrayal because he's so close to you, you've been through so much together, etc - in other words, it's a personal betrayal.
2. It's a betrayal of the Grey Warden oath. None of those fleeing Fereldens are Grey Wardens who took the oath. They're just civilians.
I have problems with the first one because it conversely means that if you spare Loghain it's a personal betrayal of Alistair for the very same reason - therefore it's a null argument.
The second is more reasonable. Those people fleeing
are just innocent civilians. And would have no hope of fighting the darkspawn or the blight successfully. It isn't the same thing at all. However, the Grey Warden oath argument does have something going for it.
* This oath everyone mentions though. I never took one - and I have 11 characters so far. At the Joining, Alistair gives a little speech - almost a prayer really - about the prospective recruits 'joining' the Grey Wardens. Nowhere am I asked to state that I agree with certain statements. Nowhere am I asked to repeat certain phrases that would indicate the taking of an oath. Nowhere, ingame, am I asked anything that indicates to me the taking of an oath - whether I join the Wardens willingly or reluctantly (both of which I've done). There may be something in the books about an oath (I don't know, I haven't read them) but it's irrelevant anyway - I simply do
not take an oath ingame. And if I didn't, then I see no reason to assume that Alistair did either.
Is simply participating in the Joining ritual meant to indicate some kind of
implicit (as opposed to explicit) oath? You know, by drinking you indicate agreement with ... This is certainly not made clear to the character either. Oaths can be verbal - in which case they are spoken aloud, generally in a public forum in front of witnesses - or they can be written, and the oath taker must sign a pact. My characters did neither.
Based only on what is in the game there simply
isn't any oath. And if there isn't an oath - Alistair can't be betraying his oath.
Now, even if he isn't betraying/breaking an oath, is he betraying his commitment to the Wardens. This I think he
is doing in a way. He wanted to join, and the wardens are committed to destroying the blight etc 'at all costs'. But he's young, he's impulsive, he's incredibly angry, and you personally betrayed him (see above) by making this choice. I don't blame him at all for leaving your party. Should he go on to fight the blight alone, then? In my opinion - yes, he should. But he's given little time to reconsider. And when he does have time to reconsider - too late to change his actions - he regrets it. Is it really such a crime to be young and angry and hurt and so make a mistake? Not in my view. Otherwise the vast majority of people who have ever lived are basically very bad people who've committed unforgiveable sins, and we should cease forthwith to have anything to do with them.
Modifié par SusanStoHelit, 24 janvier 2010 - 12:15 .
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