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#201
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This thing is pointless. Another way of BW trolling with us I guess.

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himegoto wrote...

This thing is pointless. Another way of BW trolling with us I guess.


My favorite trolling of theirs is when they told us they were going to make geth not as frustrating to fight, and then they gave the prime's drone sidewinder missiles.  "What?!  But you said--"  "That was a fix!  We'll get around to nerfing them, I promise."  Then they added geth (B-2) bombers.  MOAR STUNLOCK!  Good troll BW.  Fooled me once, shame on you, fooled me twice, shame on me.

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Rifneno wrote...

himegoto wrote...

This thing is pointless. Another way of BW trolling with us I guess.


My favorite trolling of theirs is when they told us they were going to make geth not as frustrating to fight, and then they gave the prime's drone sidewinder missiles.  "What?!  But you said--"  "That was a fix!  We'll get around to nerfing them, I promise."  Then they added geth (B-2) bombers.  MOAR STUNLOCK!  Good troll BW.  Fooled me once, shame on you, fooled me twice, shame on me.


Balance Changes October 16th:

Fixed sync kill on Geth Hunters.
Increased launch range of Geth prime drones.
Geth Bombers can now stomp downed players.

:police:

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Broganisity wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

himegoto wrote...

This thing is pointless. Another way of BW trolling with us I guess.


My favorite trolling of theirs is when they told us they were going to make geth not as frustrating to fight, and then they gave the prime's drone sidewinder missiles.  "What?!  But you said--"  "That was a fix!  We'll get around to nerfing them, I promise."  Then they added geth (B-2) bombers.  MOAR STUNLOCK!  Good troll BW.  Fooled me once, shame on you, fooled me twice, shame on me.


Balance Changes October 16th:

Fixed sync kill on Geth Hunters.
Increased launch range of Geth prime drones.
Geth Bombers can now stomp downed players.

:police:


Now to hack physics so that pyro's flamethrowers can bend around corners and over cover!

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Rifneno wrote...

Broganisity wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

himegoto wrote...

This thing is pointless. Another way of BW trolling with us I guess.


My favorite trolling of theirs is when they told us they were going to make geth not as frustrating to fight, and then they gave the prime's drone sidewinder missiles.  "What?!  But you said--"  "That was a fix!  We'll get around to nerfing them, I promise."  Then they added geth (B-2) bombers.  MOAR STUNLOCK!  Good troll BW.  Fooled me once, shame on you, fooled me twice, shame on me.


Balance Changes October 16th:

Fixed sync kill on Geth Hunters.
Increased launch range of Geth prime drones.
Geth Bombers can now stomp downed players.

:police:


Now to hack physics so that pyro's flamethrowers can bend around corners and over cover!


Not to give them any ideas, but that doesn't require a break of physics at all. Truthfully, it is more of a break that a flamethrower does not fan out after hitting obstacles like that.

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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Broganisity wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

himegoto wrote...

This thing is pointless. Another way of BW trolling with us I guess.


My favorite trolling of theirs is when they told us they were going to make geth not as frustrating to fight, and then they gave the prime's drone sidewinder missiles.  "What?!  But you said--"  "That was a fix!  We'll get around to nerfing them, I promise."  Then they added geth (B-2) bombers.  MOAR STUNLOCK!  Good troll BW.  Fooled me once, shame on you, fooled me twice, shame on me.


Balance Changes October 16th:

Fixed sync kill on Geth Hunters.
Increased launch range of Geth prime drones.
Geth Bombers can now stomp downed players.

:police:


Now to hack physics so that pyro's flamethrowers can bend around corners and over cover!


Not to give them any ideas, but that doesn't require a break of physics at all. Truthfully, it is more of a break that a flamethrower does not fan out after hitting obstacles like that.


Ah, but you forget the awesome power of space magic (aka: we just pulled this out of our ****es)!

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15% damage bonus and it will be worth it

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Nah next balance changes give pyros a sphere of flame radius=range of their flamethrower that ignorse walls, cover and damage reduction and doesn't interfere with their allies in any way.

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Next balance change - Geth Bombers can now cloak like Hunters and teleport like Banshees.

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Getting this back into the public eye. It was on page 48!

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Idiots.

/thread.

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SOG TOUGH wrote...

Idiots.

/thread.


And what was the point of that post? :huh:

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Seargent_Braken wrote...

SOG TOUGH wrote...

Idiots.

/thread.


And what was the point of that post? :huh:


Hmm, so far all I can see is a slightly offended image of myself reflecting from my screen, giving off the impression of someone that has no clue what that sort of statement wanted to achieve, aside from making me look like I do.

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Seargent_Braken wrote...

SOG TOUGH wrote...

Idiots.

/thread.


And what was the point of that post? :huh:


The title of the topic is obviously false, and people are even agreeing with it. High Velocity Barrels have their OBVIOUS advantages, especially on characters where casting powers isn't an issue.

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SOG TOUGH wrote...

Seargent_Braken wrote...

SOG TOUGH wrote...

Idiots.

/thread.


And what was the point of that post? :huh:


The title of the topic is obviously false, and people are even agreeing with it. High Velocity Barrels have their OBVIOUS advantages, especially on characters where casting powers isn't an issue.

On a ground breaking THREE weapons. Two of which, you may as well use something else anyway. An idiot is you.

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SOG TOUGH wrote...

Seargent_Braken wrote...

SOG TOUGH wrote...

Idiots.

/thread.


And what was the point of that post? :huh:


The title of the topic is obviously false, and people are even agreeing with it. High Velocity Barrels have their OBVIOUS advantages, especially on characters where casting powers isn't an issue.


That doesn't justify personally attacking us by calling us idiots...

Also, as the person before me has stated, the AR HVB is benificial ONLY on three ARs, 2 of wich are still basically useless with it, because they're supposed to be light ARs for casters, and equipping the HVB negates that, and STILL doesn't make them preform as well as heavier ARs.

Modifié par Seargent_Braken, 18 octobre 2012 - 05:48 .


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I would love to see one or a combination of the following:
leveling HVB reduces weight to 20-30% @ rank 5
HVB provides increase accuracy 10-15% @ rank 5
and or HVB provides increased stability 15-25% @ rank 5

another thought would be increased rof but that wouldn't make any sense.
If i had to re balance it my preferred mod would be 40% weight 20 stability and 10 accuracy @ rank 5, it would still be a touch heavy but also much more useful

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That is a good idea.

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Personally I would suggest reducing the weight of the new mods across the board. They are preposterously heavy and will double the weight of a light weapon, or make a heavy weapon simply ridiculous.

Furthermore, it makes no sense that the SMG HVB, reduces armor by 90% and weighs NOTHING!!!! but the AR mod which does virtually the same thing increases your encumbrance by 50%.

A wee bit inconsistent and silly.

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I still think the weight penalty should decrease with mod level.

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Make it a better extended barrel and it might be worth something or add some damage bonus to it in addition.

#222
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Try it before getting too upset. I recently tried using a phaeston with both the ap & hv mods on gold just to experiment; the thing rips through armor. Apply to a turian ghost and the potential of it starts to shine through.

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SalvationThroughDestruction wrote...

SOG TOUGH wrote...

Seargent_Braken wrote...

SOG TOUGH wrote...

Idiots.

/thread.


And what was the point of that post? :huh:


The title of the topic is obviously false, and people are even agreeing with it. High Velocity Barrels have their OBVIOUS advantages, especially on characters where casting powers isn't an issue.

On a ground breaking THREE weapons. Two of which, you may as well use something else anyway. An idiot is you.


It can be used on any assault rifle.

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bolt460 wrote...

Try it before getting too upset. I recently tried using a phaeston with both the ap & hv mods on gold just to experiment; the thing rips through armor. Apply to a turian ghost and the potential of it starts to shine through.


You do realize that that Phaeston is not a good gun at all, right?

The AR HVB is like the SMG HVB, except that the SMG one doesn't add weight. Both have the drawback of preventing you from using your normal damage barrel. That is enough of a drawback already, but on top of that, it out and doubles your cooldown penalty or worse. I'd be lying if I said I could imagine why.

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Gamemako wrote...

bolt460 wrote...

Try it before getting too upset. I recently tried using a phaeston with both the ap & hv mods on gold just to experiment; the thing rips through armor. Apply to a turian ghost and the potential of it starts to shine through.


You do realize that that Phaeston is not a good gun at all, right?

The AR HVB is like the SMG HVB, except that the SMG one doesn't add weight. Both have the drawback of preventing you from using your normal damage barrel. That is enough of a drawback already, but on top of that, it out and doubles your cooldown penalty or worse. I'd be lying if I said I could imagine why.


That's exactly my point.  Even a gun that's less than stellar was doing a lot of damage against armored enemies.  If you were to take these mods and apply them to something like the harrier, the damage would be even greater.