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[garrusfan1]

 I have heard the rumor a lot that we will not only control our characters like in past dragon age games but control the entire inquisition like a general. Anyone think it is true I personally don't want it.

[Chaos Lord Malek]

That's not really doubted, i think. The only question is if we start off as some low ranking member of Inquisition, are recruited to it (like Warden in Origins), or already start off as leader of Inquisition as the beginning of game.

In last case, i would expect then, to not allow some youngster characters, because it would be doubtful to have some 16 year old kid running whole organization.

[Auintus]

The Inquisition, as I understand it, is a fairly small group. I think you'll manage information gathering and other passive jobs that would be rather boring to do personally. I highly doubt that you'll have your own army.

[Giltspur]

Do I think you'll play a character called the Inquisitor?  Yes.  Do I think you'll control the Inquisiton like a general?  I have no idea.  Do I know what the Inquisition is like?  I know that the Inquisitor can be a mage...so it seems importantly different than the old Inquisition.

Modifié par Giltspur, 10 octobre 2012 - 04:58 .

[Chaos Lord Malek]

You don't know what form mages will have in DA3, they might be the Force Mages (maker servants or some other crap), like from that faction of mages that want's to stay with chantry, If we are recruited, its likely we will be having class based origins, and thus might join up from this faction.

Though of course, what you do once you are given mandate of inquisitor, that's up to you. And even Inquisitors can go rogue(like becoming Blood Mage).

[Wulfram]

The leak seemed to imply it.

Given that the Inquisition is a newly formed organisation, it's not totally unbelievable.

[Vilegrim]

seriously hope not, want to tear the whole rotten edifice down, not be a part of it.

[TCBC_Freak]

garrusfan1 wrote...

 I have heard the rumor a lot that we will not only control our characters like in past dragon age games but control the entire inquisition like a general. Anyone think it is true I personally don't want it.

Why don't you want it? I'm just wondering because it could help me answer your question.

Vilegrim wrote...

seriously hope not, want to tear the whole rotten edifice down, not be a part of it.

That seems a bit dramatic. Not knowing what the organization fully is, it seems a bit presumptive to call it rotten and want it gone. And if you control it then wouldn’t you be able to dictate what it does and how it does it? You could have it be “rotten” as you say or clean as a whistle; if you are in control it‘s up to you.

Too many people are equating the Inquisition in DA:3, (which we know nothing about because it has been said that it is a new organization even if it is using the name of an older one) with the historical one. Which if you know the full history, outside of Spain, had little to no power and even in other place where it had power wasn‘t as bad but that‘s irrelevant. Not that you are on of the people doing that, just a lot of people are.

[RogueWriter3201]

I don't believe you'll have control of "The Entire Inquisition." Rather, I believe the approach will be akin to the Inquisitorum in the Galactic Empire Era of the Star Wars Universe's EU (Super Nerd, right here) in that you will begin at the bottom rung and, as you succeed in your various missions to root out the conspiracy against the Chantry, and prove yourself an effective Inquisitor, the Divine will authorize you through the Inquisition greater and greater resources to be used at your discretion.

By the end of the game, as we learned from the leaked Survey information, you'll have a veritable army of resources, contacts, and military arms at your disposal, all of which you will have built or been allocated by the Divine and the Chantry. Or, at least, that's how I imagine given what little we know thus far. Honestly I have no inclination to control "the entire" Inquisition as I feel such a role would feel overbearing in a narrative sense and take from the much more personal journey a lone Inquisitor would have.

[Dhiro]

Nizaris1 wrote...

From what i know, the real Inquisition in history is the Church conduct investigations toward the accused heretics, sending Inquisitors to investigate them, if they are heretics then the Inquisitors will use any means to force them to repent even using torture, or else they accused heretics will be condemned to death.

I don't know what Inquisition means for DA3. Who want to conduct Inquisition on who? Surely the Chantry who want to conduct Inquisition on the Templar right? Like in the real history of Inquisition of Templars in France...

But if the Inquisitor is a Mage, then it is a nonsense at all.

We don't really know, sadly. Since we lack information people will usually link this Inqusition to our Inquisitior, and assume we'll be forced to side with the Chantry etc. Which may be true, or not. For all we know DA's Inquisition may as well be a group trying to stop the war at any cost or something, much like the Wardens accept Blood Magic as long as it helps them defeat the Darkspawn.

[Vandicus]

Nizaris1 wrote...

From what i know, the real Inquisition in history is the Church conduct investigations toward the accused heretics, sending Inquisitors to investigate them, if they are heretics then the Inquisitors will use any means to force them to repent even using torture, or else they accused heretics will be condemned to death.

I don't know what Inquisition means for DA3. Who want to conduct Inquisition on who? Surely the Chantry who want to conduct Inquisition on the Templar right? Like in the real history of Inquisition of Templars in France...

But if the Inquisitor is a Mage, then it is a nonsense at all.

The survey leak says the Inquisition is about investigating the mysterious mastermind who orchestrated the start of the mage-templar war(and destroyed the peace conference). 

[Vandicus]

Who says the Inquisition is backed by the Chantry? Since the templars have split from the Chantry, as have the mages, the Chantry is rather lacking in its ability to field a well rounded force no?

The last Inquisition in Thedas pre-dated the existence of the Chantry, it was an order dedicated to walloping crazies and surviving Tevinter mages/magistrates. Emperor Drakon convinced this order to join the Chantry and become the Templar Order.

[Vandicus]

Nizaris1 wrote...

The survey leak says the Inquisition is about investigating the mysterious mastermind who orchestrated the start of the mage-templar war(and destroyed the peace conference).

I see...so what "Inquisition" is that? It should be like James Bond 007 or Mission Impossible, or UN or CIA, an agent investigating the mastermind and destroy it...not Inquisition but Investigation

Might just be DA3: Investigation, sounds pretty boring. Inquisition has a more dramatic flair to it. You might want to look up the full survey leak for the details, but the Inquisitor will also apparently be gathering an army of some sort. This would lead me to believe that the evil mastermind has his/her own army, which may be hidden and need to be rooted out or fought. 

[XCelfa]

Vandicus wrote...

Nizaris1 wrote...

The survey leak says the Inquisition is about investigating the mysterious mastermind who orchestrated the start of the mage-templar war(and destroyed the peace conference).

I see...so what "Inquisition" is that? It should be like James Bond 007 or Mission Impossible, or UN or CIA, an agent investigating the mastermind and destroy it...not Inquisition but Investigation

Might just be DA3: Investigation, sounds pretty boring. Inquisition has a more dramatic flair to it. You might want to look up the full survey leak for the details, but the Inquisitor will also apparently be gathering an army of some sort. This would lead me to believe that the evil mastermind has his/her own army, which may be hidden and need to be rooted out or fought. 

Are we taking bets on the evil mastermind yet?

[Conquerthecity]

 I don't want to play a DA RTS. However, if they made it like Skyrim's Civil War quests where the PC participates in taking back strongholds and whatnot, I wouldn't mind that. Maybe with the troop control mechanic like during the last Denerim part of DA: O. 

[Vandicus]

Nizaris1 wrote...

Might just be DA3: Investigation, sounds pretty boring. Inquisition
has a more dramatic flair to it. You might want to look up the full
survey leak for the details, but the Inquisitor will also apparently be
gathering an army of some sort. This would lead me to believe that the
evil mastermind has his/her own army, which may be hidden and need to be
rooted out or fought.

"Inquisition" is

- to investigate heretics
- forced them to repent
- condemned them to death if they not repented

meaning Inquisition is to protect the faith of the religion, the Church

So, the term "Inquisition" is not correct to use if the story is about a mysterious organization like IMF sending an agent to investigate the source of problem and then destroy it.

Inquisition, much like the word holocaust, has a meaning prior and outside of its usage to refer to a specific historical event. It is a synonym for the word investigate, and sounds a lot cooler.


@ Xcelf

My bet is on Flemeth. She sent Hawke to Kirkwall, she can see the future, and Hawke allows the expedition which brings the idol of crazy to Meredith to succeed. Additionally Hawke helps Isabella survive and starts the conflict between Qunari and the city(if the Qunari were still there any mage uprising might've been cut off in its infancy, as Qunari have a legendary intolerance for wild mages, allowing the Chantry to shift blame to the Qunari for any deaths that occurred).

[Dhiro]

Nizaris1 wrote...

Might just be DA3: Investigation, sounds pretty boring. Inquisition
has a more dramatic flair to it. You might want to look up the full
survey leak for the details, but the Inquisitor will also apparently be
gathering an army of some sort. This would lead me to believe that the
evil mastermind has his/her own army, which may be hidden and need to be
rooted out or fought.

"Inquisition" is

- to investigate heretics
- forced them to repent
- condemned them to death if they not repented

meaning Inquisition is to protect the faith of the religion, the Church

So, the term "Inquisition" is not correct to use if the story is about a mysterious organization like IMF sending an agent to investigate the source of problem and then destroy it.

Googling 'Inquisition' gives me:

"1. an official investigation, especially one of a political or religious nature, characterized by lack of regard for individual rights, prejudice on the part of the examiners, and recklessly cruel punishments.
2. any harsh, difficult, or prolonged questioning.
3. the act of inquiring; inquiry; research.
4. an investigation, or process of inquiry.
5. a judicial or official inquiry."

So it could be religious, sure, but that's only one of the meanings.

Edit: Somehow the code got all messed up, fixing it!

Modifié par Dhiro, 12 octobre 2012 - 05:17 .

[Quicksilver26]

(the evil mastermind)
i'm betting Flemeth has something to do with it in some way not necessarily the one who's doing it but knows who is

Modifié par Quicksilver26, 12 octobre 2012 - 05:17 .

[LolaLei]

Sure, that's what it means in real world terms. However, we don't know what this new Inquisition is yet. Could be that the newly rebelled Templars reclaim the title since they're going back to Mage hunting, or maybe our protagonist will be part of the Inquisition, to which we'll be able to shape what this new Order becomes? I guess we'll find out soon enough.

[KiwiQuiche]

Damn, if it's gonna be like that, then give me a Skaven horde.