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[greghorvath]

rymajn3 wrote...

greghorvath wrote...

Eric1975 wrote...

Huh. I'm finding them really easy. They're actually the top-most of my Cerberus kills in my challenge list right now. Their lash animation is so long that you can just back up and plink 'em to death with an SMG.

Wow. Great that you always have space to back up without a skewer waiting around the corner. Rarely happens on silver and above though...

Actually that's exactly what you need to do if you let one get too close.

If there's more enemies behind you, it's your fault for getting sandwiched. Tunnel vision in this game = death.

Ever played gold?

[OblivionDawn]

Seriously?

Dragoons are like Assault Troopers that come to you to get slaughtered, instead of you having to seek them out.

[Eric1975]

Air Quotes wrote...

They are not hard to take down, but they are super annoying and just feel unfinshed. They are totally out of pace with the rest of Cerberus. 

To be honest, with only two games of exposure I haven't had enough time to notice those details.  If they're silent, that IS a problem.

[Chala]

I agree, the Dragoon is very problematic.
The worst: He uses the same model as the Phoenix, in Hazard Dagger you can barely distinguish who is your ally and who is Cerberus.

[ClockworkSpectre]

Nitrocuban wrote...

With Incinerate/Cryo splosions now the Dragon is not such a big problem, Crusader also works very well.
But don´t get overrun by 2 or three of them, especially on extraction.

And they virtually always move in packs of 2 or 3, soooo.... yeah.

[NuclearTech76]

GET OFF MY LAWN, DRAGOON!!!!!!

Seriously I love the addition. Cerberus was a cake walk before them. They are extremely aggressive now, not as boring as usual.

[Serevarno]

The only time I've had Dragoons really present a problem was when there was a pack of them just chain smashing one of my team in a corner to the point where they couldn't even move.

[Eric1975]

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

I agree, the Dragoon is very problematic.
The worst: He uses the same model as the Phoenix, in Hazard Dagger you can barely distinguish who is your ally and who is Cerberus.

LOL  I had this VERY same problem.  I went down and someone rushed over--thought they were going to revive me.  Instead, it was a Dragoon stomping me. 

[CitizenThom]

Air Quotes wrote...

futurepixels wrote...

Is that why packs of Dragoons could sneak up on my team and wipe them out in all my Cerberus games last night? I'd be holding down a sniper position, and boom a pack of three Dragoons would be behind me.

Yeap. Bastards don't make a sound. They are more phantomy than a Phantom. 

Don't forget the stealth Pyro. Hopefully a future fix is adding some footstep sounds for armored troops like the Dragoons and Pyros. Phantoms I usually notice by the sound of their palm blasters.

[elooocin]

I like them, & it makes sense Cerberus would have them since we have the Ex-Cerberus Adept & Vanguard (I think those are the 2?) that have the smash as well.

They are hard sometimes, but that is what is great about them, I think that is what the additions are about, making things more challenging for those who have been playing a while.

& @ greghorvath, love your sig, it is so fun to do that either between waves or when you just need to get your barriers back up & that is the closest thing you can lock onto -lol!

[greghorvath]

Eric1975 wrote...

greghorvath wrote...

Eric1975 wrote...

Huh. I'm finding them really easy. They're actually the top-most of my Cerberus kills in my challenge list right now. Their lash animation is so long that you can just back up and plink 'em to death with an SMG.

Wow. Great that you always have space to back up without a skewer waiting around the corner. Rarely happens on silver and above though...

Interesting assumption.  I played Cerberus last night on Dagger with hazard and standard Glacier.   Both times on Gold.  Didn't have a problem with maneuvering away from Dragoons, but then, I was using a Fury after all and maneuverability is not much of an issue.

Dragoons came in big bunches and they all went down easily.

Collectors, on the other hand.... ouch.

Just finished a glacier run 10 minutes ago. Batarian Soldier ftw. Team stuck together to focus fire which also means spawns all over the place. Atlases moving faster now and somehow the turrets seem more accurate as well so moving space is very limited. It was very intense. Must say I enjoyed it...

[Nitrocuban]

Air Quotes wrote...
Nice development. AI out of year 2000. Run and smash. That's it. Ignore everything. Run and Smash.

Well, I guess we know where Phoenix Adepts came from.

[Eric1975]

rymajn3 wrote...

greghorvath wrote...

Eric1975 wrote...

Huh. I'm finding them really easy. They're actually the top-most of my Cerberus kills in my challenge list right now. Their lash animation is so long that you can just back up and plink 'em to death with an SMG.

Wow. Great that you always have space to back up without a skewer waiting around the corner. Rarely happens on silver and above though...

Actually that's exactly what you need to do if you let one get too close.

If there's more enemies behind you, it's your fault for getting sandwiched. Tunnel vision in this game = death.

Exactly the case.  I find that as I play more on Gold, my situational awareness has to be ever higher.  The fact that we don't know what cues to listen and watch for when playing Collectors is very telling, as last night we kept on getting surrounded, then swarmed, then stomped to death.  Everyone would continue to pop up with medi-gel and then get stomped back down because it was too late. :happy:

Same thing with the Geth bomber.  No one knows what to watch for and to get out of cover as soon as you see/hear one coming, so we wait for the grenades to fall, then try to get out of cover but bam--stun lock and BOOM.

It'll get better with time, I'm sure.

[Ashen One]

People who struggle against Dragoons have terrible situational awareness.

If you're a camper, you'll probably hate them. If you're used to actually moving around the map, they're an easy way to deplete the spawn budget.

[greghorvath]

elooocin wrote...

I like them, & it makes sense Cerberus would have them since we have the Ex-Cerberus Adept & Vanguard (I think those are the 2?) that have the smash as well.

They are hard sometimes, but that is what is great about them, I think that is what the additions are about, making things more challenging for those who have been playing a while.

& @ greghorvath, love your sig, it is so fun to do that either between waves or when you just need to get your barriers back up & that is the closest thing you can lock onto -lol!

Thank you. I had a real screenshot too but thought times new roman with colours would be funnier. People always post stuff like xyz[toothpic]praetorian, but I though I would show people that some of us take care of the real threats as well...

[-JP-]

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

I agree, the Dragoon is very problematic.
The worst: He uses the same model as the Phoenix, in Hazard Dagger you can barely distinguish who is your ally and who is Cerberus.

I agree. The problem remains on many maps, from my experience. If they're coming at you, sure, no biggie. If there's a group of you close together and one dragoon gets in the middle, he's oftentimes REALLY hard to see. It's annoying as fruitcake.

[Kenadian]

Headshot em. Problem solved.

[UnknownMercenary]

All this talk about them being hard to snipe? Challenge accepted.

[futurepixels]

I'm sure I'll get used to it, but it would be nice to know if they are silent by design.

Modifié par futurepixels, 10 octobre 2012 - 07:26 .

[InTheZone]

OH, SO WHEN PLAYERS SPAM SMASH, IT'S OKAY, BUT WHEN THE COMPUTER DOES IT..

[greghorvath]

Kenadian wrote...

Headshot em. Problem solved.

I shot one twice in the head with an amped up raider. He still was around to help his 2 buddies take me out...

[SlottsMachine]

Neural Shock is there kryptonite.