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[Herr Uhl]

soignee wrote...

I missed a good zevfriday, it seems. Apparently there weren't enough boobs...

True. But then again, there never is *nods sagely*.

Not even on broodmothers.

Edit: Curses, page topper. As per usual, stealing time.

Aroihkin wrote...

Edit: Zevran! Have another fanartspam because I hate him so:

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 02 mai 2010 - 05:04 .

[sami jo]

UpiH wrote...

jenovan wrote...

UpiH wrote...
Now, you get me started 

LOL!  sami jo's avvie looks so unimpressed with the whole idea XD

Ouch, she'll flay me alive. Gotta run!

That particular character would probably flay you.  She is as grumpy as she looks.   Me? I needed the giggle.  My family is going to drive the last vestiges of sanity from me.

[soignee]

ooh Aro finished her zev pic, and it's awesome!

*is aware she has aeducan/zev/alistair to draw*

*is also aware she has to publish another duster chapter*

*is also aware she has to write Aimo some smut*



CURSE YOU FANDOM, I JUST GOT BACK OFF OF MY VACAY

[Sannox]

ejoslin wrote...

Sannox, the line I added was:

"It would mean too much to me. I can't accept it." I think it is vague enough that it doesn't make him look like a jerk. I'm not using that version, btw, because, again, I think the refusal line is nice (I KNOW I'm in a minority here).

My first playthrough, I didn't get the earring offer until after Alistair dumped my warden, and so it didn't have the same context as yours did. I just remember being incredibly hurt by the way he phrased it, and moreso my next playthrough when I romanced him from the start.

That line is more what I would like to have said.  I wanted to follow up his line about being there till death.  

But I don't know - I still think he would act differently if it was the warden talking about the warden's feelings.  He doesn't normally reject your feelings.   I think he might be confused, but would be gentler.  (I'm just guessing, though).  I could see myself going for that line .... then reloading. .

It would be really interesting to be able to play through as a warden who wants a serious relationship from the beginning, knows what she feels, and tells him.  It might scare him off, but maybe not - after all, he is committed to staying.   I think it would scare him, but enough for him to end the romance?    I wish there was a way to see what would happen.   But the story 'as is' can only play out with a warden who withholds - either deliberately or because they don't know what the feel.  (Or in some cases, maybe, because they don't feel it).  

I'm actually more concerned about the change I made to the friendship dialog. The way I have it now, it turns into a very powerful declaration of love rather than that of friendship. Here's how it plays out (major MAJOR change spoiler, but endgame spoiler as well):

I don't know - it does seem unfair that if you're in love, you have to give up the friendship option.  Because the friendship is still there, isn't it?  He doesn't feel any less because he's in love. But then it seems odd for him to switch from suddenly accepting you are more than friends, back to friends.  I can see why you are torn!  

It's funny that the friendship lines can be so powerful.  Even as a friend, he is more than a friend - or offering more than you would expect a friend to offer.

[Sarah1281]

We may have been bereft of boobs, but nonvita did send us all to med school.

[soignee]

LOL, I'm trying to work out who I'm meant to be, and more importantly if I'm boning anyone

[Sarah1281]

soignee wrote...

LOL, I'm trying to work out who I'm meant to be, and more importantly if I'm boning anyone

Well there are at least two and probably four people within groping range and we can't see your hands so...make of that what you will.

[Mscheveous]

UpiH wrote...

Sowwy, guys, I just couldn't resist.

Aloha from Hawaii

LOLOL!!

[Charsen]

soignee wrote...

Hello Zev thread, I am back from holiday with sunburn. Barrowhand and I had a lovely time chasing watching surfers on the beach.

I sort of attempted to write, but got distracted. Someone condense this week's action in a paragraph for me, go go go!

well we had zevrinjection friday and it was glorious as usual

Upi made hilarious jibjabs (the one today plus the other:)

UpiH wrote...
G'morn!
Mommy and Poppa went to disco

We hit page 1000

Someone linked the only non-creepy cosplay i've seen which actually looks pretty hilarious to boot

Mina made some Zevran scarf art and then Zevbum art also there was Zevsexyface art too

Aro's Angryzev art is finally done!

Aro provides shiny pics of Zevran and the hear/see/speak no evil collection and more and more and more. and more and more

i made a joke about popping out of a stripper cake, that turned into Aro's car (Festiva) somehow, and so the Sextiva was born

Rainbow colored dogs,
the Zevthread has bedrooms now,
Sarah's zevthread at the beach,
CZ's avatar uploaded finally 
Antivan milk sandwiches
Alicorn
Your mind is blown by Knight of Phoenix

our porn names, an explanation/discussion of "shipping", anime men are feminine looking discussion, 

The whole debacle over the Dragon Age Survivor thread (it implied all men were natural-born rapists, had some rape scenes, etc, it was not good)

And Morgothic made some face tattoos but i couldn't find them(?) and i released v1.4 of my new Kisses mod

i think that mostly covers it.... good to see you back dwarfbabby mama 

[Tellervo]

soignee wrote...

Apparently there weren't enough boobs...

I tried.

[ejoslin]

Sannox wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Sannox, the line I added was:

"It would mean too much to me. I can't accept it." I think it is vague enough that it doesn't make him look like a jerk. I'm not using that version, btw, because, again, I think the refusal line is nice (I KNOW I'm in a minority here).

My first playthrough, I didn't get the earring offer until after Alistair dumped my warden, and so it didn't have the same context as yours did. I just remember being incredibly hurt by the way he phrased it, and moreso my next playthrough when I romanced him from the start.

That line is more what I would like to have said.  I wanted to follow up his line about being there till death.  

But I don't know - I still think he would act differently if it was the warden talking about the warden's feelings.  He doesn't normally reject your feelings.   I think he might be confused, but would be gentler.  (I'm just guessing, though).  I could see myself going for that line .... then reloading. .

It would be really interesting to be able to play through as a warden who wants a serious relationship from the beginning, knows what she feels, and tells him.  It might scare him off, but maybe not - after all, he is committed to staying.   I think it would scare him, but enough for him to end the romance?    I wish there was a way to see what would happen.   But the story 'as is' can only play out with a warden who withholds - either deliberately or because they don't know what the feel.  (Or in some cases, maybe, because they don't feel it).  

I'm actually more concerned about the change I made to the friendship dialog. The way I have it now, it turns into a very powerful declaration of love rather than that of friendship. Here's how it plays out (major MAJOR change spoiler, but endgame spoiler as well):

I don't know - it does seem unfair that if you're in love, you have to give up the friendship option.  Because the friendship is still there, isn't it?  He doesn't feel any less because he's in love. But then it seems odd for him to switch from suddenly accepting you are more than friends, back to friends.  I can see why you are torn!  

It's funny that the friendship lines can be so powerful.  Even as a friend, he is more than a friend - or offering more than you would expect a friend to offer.

But you can play it from the start as a warden who wants a serious romance.  It doesn't scare him off.  The dialog choices actually are there.  When he asks about the future, you can tell him you think you think you'd like for the relationship to continue after the blight.  When asking him about old lovers, the choices could apply to either at the end could apply to either, and his dialogs are ambiguous enough that they could also support either.  The new path he's on could refer to being in a monogamous relationship  After the first time making love, you can ask him about love.  Telling him you're happy he's with you is always good for an approval gain.  When Leliana and Wynne ask about the relationship at adore, you can make it clear that you consider the relationship with Zevran exclusive and special.  And when Wynne apologizes, you can tell her you saw the tenderness from the start.

Yeh, I'm leaving in the friendship for my own use.  But it does change the lore considerably.  But it is SO much better than the "more than friends" dialog.

And yes, as a friend, he is still more loyal and faithful than really is imaginable from when you first met him.  And it's nothing to do with the oath -- that actually meant nothing to him.  If you become friends with him, though, or his lover...  Yeh, he's amazing.

[Minaleth]

Sarah1281 wrote...

soignee wrote...

LOL, I'm trying to work out who I'm meant to be, and more importantly if I'm boning anyone

Well there are at least two and probably four people within groping range and we can't see your hands so...make of that what you will.

*looks around vigorously* Is that a Barrowhand on my butt?

@ Charsen's summary - that is awesome! I lol repeatedly at things I've loled before. We should hire you to do this every week and we can publish it as ZevThread Bulletin...

Modifié par Minaleth, 02 mai 2010 - 05:28 .

[Sarah1281]

Tellervo wrote...

soignee wrote...

Apparently there weren't enough boobs...

I tried.

Ditto. I did post three pictures of women and one lesbian kiss, so that's something, right?

[Charsen]

UpiH wrote...
Sowwy, guys, I just couldn't resist.
Aloha from Hawaii

hah.. wow hmm, hawaii turned me into a bear, and CZ too... *scratches that place off the must-visit list* =P

soignee wrote...
LOL, I'm trying to work out who I'm meant to be, and more importantly if I'm boning anyone

ohhh that's a valid cause
i bet im not boning the guy in the tie, so... lame

[soignee]

Charsen wrote...

soignee wrote...

Hello Zev thread, I am back from holiday with sunburn. Barrowhand and I had a lovely time chasing watching surfers on the beach.

I sort of attempted to write, but got distracted. Someone condense this week's action in a paragraph for me, go go go!

well we had zevrinjection friday and it was glorious as usual

Upi made hilarious jibjabs (the one today plus the other:)

UpiH wrote...
G'morn!
Mommy and Poppa went to disco

We hit page 1000

Someone linked the only non-creepy cosplay i've seen which actually looks pretty hilarious to boot

Mina made some Zevran scarf art and then Zevbum art also there was Zevsexyface art too

Aro's Angryzev art is finally done!

Aro provides shiny pics of Zevran and the hear/see/speak no evil collection and more and more and more. and more and more

i made a joke about popping out of a stripper cake, that turned into Aro's car (Festiva) somehow, and so the Sextiva was born

Rainbow colored dogs,
the Zevthread has bedrooms now,
Sarah's zevthread at the beach,
CZ's avatar uploaded finally 
Antivan milk sandwiches
Alicorn
Your mind is blown by Knight of Phoenix

our porn names, an explanation/discussion of "shipping", anime men are feminine looking discussion, 

The whole debacle over the Dragon Age Survivor thread (it implied all men were natural-born rapists, had some rape scenes, etc, it was not good)

And Morgothic made some face tattoos but i couldn't find them(?) and i released v1.4 of my new Kisses mod

i think that mostly covers it.... good to see you back dwarfbabby mama 

hahah, i missed an awesome week! Nice synopsis, internet baby daddy.

PS: my porn name is Tabby Dellfield.

[UpiH]

Somehow along the way, I lost the Princess. However, I run across some other acquaintances.

Beauty and the Beast

[Sannox]

ejoslin wrote...
But you can play it from the start as a warden who wants a serious romance.  It doesn't scare him off.  The dialog choices actually are there.  When he asks about the future, you can tell him you think you think you'd like for the relationship to continue after the blight.  When asking him about old lovers, the choices could apply to either at the end could apply to either, and his dialogs are ambiguous enough that they could also support either.  The new path he's on could refer to being in a monogamous relationship  After the first time making love, you can ask him about love.  Telling him you're happy he's with you is always good for an approval gain.  When Leliana and Wynne ask about the relationship at adore, you can make it clear that you consider the relationship with Zevran exclusive and special.  And when Wynne apologizes, you can tell her you saw the tenderness from the start.

Yeh, I'm leaving in the friendship for my own use.  But it does change the lore considerably.  But it is SO much better than the "more than friends" dialog.

And yes, as a friend, he is still more loyal and faithful than really is imaginable from when you first met him.  And it's nothing to do with the oath -- that actually meant nothing to him.  If you become friends with him, though, or his lover...  Yeh, he's amazing.

Yes, you can play it as a warden who wants a serious romance and even as one who knows they are in love, but you can't really play as one who openly tells him that.  I don't think those things that you can say are direct enough, though (for a warden who is openly letting him know she's in love, I mean).   (I'm just using 'she' here,  to save mixing pronouns).   He's seems almost surprised when you do confess to more at the end. 

If you ask about love after the first tent time, for instance, you're not actually saying 'I think I'm falling in love with you', and he doesn't seem to take it to mean that.  The others are rather ambiguous too.  There's nothing that he takes to mean 'love', not until the end. 

I tried to go through them all once, just to see if there was a way of telling him you love him (or something close to that) before the earring offer - there isn't.  Although I have had problems with that, I'm not complaining.   As I said, I think that works very well for the story.  I do like it that way.  I would be very interested in a mod that changed it, but I think it would be completely changing the story.

ETA: Even after the earring offer, you can ask him if he's in love, but you can't volunteer the fact that you're in love.   Not until later.  You always seem to ask that little bit more from him than you give.  Even with the proposal, you can't actually propose - you have to push him to go first (leaving you able to reject him). When he offers the earring the first time, you still haven't recripocated his speech about being with you till the end (if you had that one).   It's just impossible to play that way - to tell him openly how you feel.   You always give a little bit less and a little bit later than him. 

Modifié par Sannox, 02 mai 2010 - 06:12 .

[Nonvita]

UpiH wrote...

Somehow along the way, I lost the Princess. However, I run across some other acquaintances.
Beauty and the Beast

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH oh god, dying of laughter. (That's my favorite Disney movie, too, btw, so you've just made my dreams come true.)


SOIGNEE I MISSED YOU! Seriously, girl, I even said it like 5 times I think. Did you manage to snag any sexy surfers while you were gone?


And about the ZR picture, you're totally using your Barrowhand on Herr. Btw 2 seconds after that pic was taken, I jumped you in a fit of jealousy at touching my man, and CZ started groping Charsen. 5 seconds after it was taken... well... things happened that should not be talked about.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Sarah1281 wrote...

We may have been bereft of boobs, but nonvita did send us all to med school.

I suppose I am the supervisor of you lot?
I have 3 hands you see.

[soignee]

Nonvita wrote...


SOIGNEE I MISSED YOU! Seriously, girl, I even said it like 5 times I think. Did you manage to snag any sexy surfers while you were gone?


And about the ZR picture, you're totally using your Barrowhand on Herr. Btw 2 seconds after that pic was taken, I jumped you in a fit of jealousy at touching my man, and CZ started groping Charsen. 5 seconds after it was taken... well... things happened that should not be talked about.

<3Missed you too.

Also: Zevran Thread solves arguments the Antivan way. Milk sandwich, anyone? (Loll'd so hard when Sigrun said that in Awakenings...)

Knight wrote...

I suppose I am the supervisor of you lot?
I have 3 hands you see.

Yeah but I am the keeper od the Barrowhand and can similtaneously grope EVERYONE at the SAME TIME obviously.

Modifié par soignee, 02 mai 2010 - 06:08 .

[Nonvita]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I suppose I am the supervisor of you lot?
I have 3 hands you see.

Really? I only see 2...



And Soignee, of course all disputes are solved with love. You don't think I jumped you out of anger do you? =( But for a milk sandwich to be involved, then Herr must have... well... what happens in the Zev thread stays in the Zev thread amirite?

[KnightofPhoenix]

Nonvita wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I suppose I am the supervisor of you lot?
I have 3 hands you see.

Really? I only see 2...

I have a flying hand that serves me cigarettes. My other hand is attempting to stop soignee from barrowhanding me. That's why you can't see it.

[soignee]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Nonvita wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I suppose I am the supervisor of you lot?
I have 3 hands you see.

Really? I only see 2...

I have a flying hand that serves me cigarettes. My other hand is attempting to stop soignee from barrowhanding me. That's why you can't see it.

NO ONE CAN RESIST THE BARROWHAND-

oh okay, okay. I'll put it on a leash and it'll stop groping you.

[Nonvita]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I have a flying hand that serves me cigarettes. My other hand is attempting to stop soignee from barrowhanding me. That's why you can't see it.

Impossible. No one stops Soignee from Barrowhanding them. No, I think this is just a sad attempt on your part to justify the fact you are a creepy mutant. It's ok though--Barrowhand does not discriminate.

[Sarah1281]

soignee wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Nonvita wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I suppose I am the supervisor of you lot?
I have 3 hands you see.

Really? I only see 2...

I have a flying hand that serves me cigarettes. My other hand is attempting to stop soignee from barrowhanding me. That's why you can't see it.

NO ONE CAN RESIST THE BARROWHAND-

oh okay, okay. I'll put it on a leash and it'll stop groping you.

Okay, I have a general idea of what soignee's barrowhand does from context, but where is that even from?