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[Herr Uhl]

Nonvita wrote...

And Soignee, of course all disputes are solved with love. You don't think I jumped you out of anger do you? =( But for a milk sandwich to be involved, then Herr must have... well... what happens in the Zev thread stays in the Zev thread amirite?

I am disconcerted and intrigued at the same time.

Edit: pagetopper again?! Off to steal a picture it is again. From the wiki this time.

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 02 mai 2010 - 06:25 .

[Cuddlezarro]

soignee wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Nonvita wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

I suppose I am the supervisor of you lot?
I have 3 hands you see.

Really? I only see 2...

I have a flying hand that serves me cigarettes. My other hand is attempting to stop soignee from barrowhanding me. That's why you can't see it.

NO ONE CAN RESIST THE BARROWHAND-

oh okay, okay. I'll put it on a leash and it'll stop groping you.

hey if its groaping him... thens whos groaping my ass *turns around to see Charsen* ...

ps welcome back friday wasnt the same without your picspam

[Creature 1]

Speaking of creepy mutants, remember that scene in the X-men movie when Magneto and Mystique are messing with Rogue and she suddenly yanks off her gloves? I wish I could think of some innocent yet menacing action for Blair to do that says, "I'm *this far* from killing you."

[Sannox]

And another thing about the earring refusal. The warden refuses because he/she wants it to mean something, but he tells you that it means something - that you mean something - even though he has difficulty with it and stumbles over the words. (And this is in the context of the warden not yet telling him something similar. Things like 'I'm glad to have you along' aren't as strong as what he has said and is saying.) And 'I have no better way to say it' is a confession of sorts. To say what? (I love his voice and expression in that line).

[MorGothic]

Yay Soigne is back! (we need a party smily...)

IMO Zevinjection Friday sucked, and in future if Soigne isn't here it shouldn't happen...

Charsen wrote...
And Morgothic made some face tattoos but i couldn't find them(?)

The reason you can't find them Charsen is their mine. *hisses*

(I was going comment on DA Surivior thing, but I though better of it.)

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
I have a flying hand that
serves me cigarettes. My other hand is attempting to stop soignee from
barrowhanding me. That's why you can't see it.

Why?

Modifié par MorGothic, 02 mai 2010 - 06:26 .

[UpiH]

The Allmighty Duncan's Beard:



In Her Majesty's Secret Service

[Herr Uhl]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Okay, I have a general idea of what soignee's barrowhand does from context, but where is that even from?

Soignee, you have to post that pic again.

[Sarah1281]

UpiH wrote...

The Allmighty Duncan's Beard:

In Her Majesty's Secret Service

UNCLEAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Nonvita]

MorGothic wrote...

IMO Zevinjection Friday sucked, and in
future if Soigne isn't here it shouldn't happen...

Agreed.

Herr Uhl wrote...

Soignee, you have to post that pic again.

Yes, it must be done!

[MorGothic]

Sarah1281 wrote...

UpiH wrote...

The Allmighty Duncan's Beard:

In Her Majesty's Secret Service

UNCLEAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!

[soignee]

D: D:
CAMMEN? killllll itttttttt with fire noaw

Note where my right hand is...

Will bawleet this in 5 mins

Modifié par soignee, 02 mai 2010 - 06:41 .

[UpiH]

But, but... I cannae kill it, it has Duncan's Beard.

[Herr Uhl]

UpiH wrote...

But, but... I cannae kill it, it has Duncan's Beard.

It is the beard that is immortal, not the wearer *calls for nondescript Hurlock alpha with battleaxe no. 37*

Finish him!

[Sarah1281]

soignee wrote...

D: D:
CAMMEN? killllll itttttttt with fire noaw

*eta*
This might explain Barrowhand. Note where my right hand is...

Will bawleet this in 5 mins

 That's such a cute picture! And now everything makes so much more sense...

(I helpfully removed the link since you're deleting it)

[ejoslin]

Sannox wrote...

And another thing about the earring refusal. The warden refuses because he/she wants it to mean something, but he tells you that it means something - that you mean something - even though he has difficulty with it and stumbles over the words. (And this is in the context of the warden not yet telling him something similar. Things like 'I'm glad to have you along' aren't as strong as what he has said and is saying.) And 'I have no better way to say it' is a confession of sorts. To say what? (I love his voice and expression in that line).

There are actually two reasons you can use to refuse the earring -- one is because you want the earring to mean something, the other is that you don't want the earring.  

And Zevran DOES have a better way to say it.  He is choosing not to at that point, for whatever reason.  He just isn't being honest there.  Again, I find the first offering of the earring hurtful.  I totally understand you not seeing it that way and I do understand your point of view on it.  It just has a different feel for me.  With the first offering of the earring, he goes out of his way to say he's NOT giving it as a commitment, that you should NOT get the wrong idea, it's just his way of saying thank you.  Of course I don't believe him, but what does accepting at that point say?  That you won't get the wrong idea, that it's ok that a gift like that is a "thank you" and that you really don't expect anything more?  It seems that way to me.

He has done his best to that point to make sure things are completely casual (to varying degrees of success depending on how you play it).

See, I don't think he's being honest at quite a few points in the game.  The earring is ONE place.  But with the earring, my warden has had enough of casual and is not willing to accept a gift that should have a lot of meaning unless that meaning can be spoken aloud.  But that's just the way I play it.  Your way is totally valid as well!

Edit: *grin* Sannox!  We're having a debate among duncan beard comments -- you think it would have been destroyed completely!

Modifié par ejoslin, 02 mai 2010 - 06:47 .

[UpiH]

Peace?

[ejoslin]

UpiH wrote...

Peace?

Ahahahahahaha!  OMG! That's great! 

[Nonvita]

UpiH wrote...

Peace?

He's still alive. <_<

[soignee]

Ejosin wrote...



Edit: *grin* Sannox! We're having a debate among duncan beard comments -- you think it would have been destroyed completely!

My brain has been melted by the journey and all I can do is lol at jibjabs and play on the internets, I'm sorry ;-/ I'd be all over this conversation if I wasn't so brain melty, as I got to wrangle out Missa/Zev end game stuff

[ejoslin]

soignee wrote...

Ejosin wrote...

Edit: *grin* Sannox! We're having a debate among duncan beard comments -- you think it would have been destroyed completely!

My brain has been melted by the journey and all I can do is lol at jibjabs and play on the internets, I'm sorry ;-/ I'd be all over this conversation if I wasn't so brain melty, as I got to wrangle out Missa/Zev end game stuff

soignee.  I'm glad the vacation was THAT good!  

[soignee]

ejoslin wrote...

soignee wrote...

Ejosin wrote...

Edit: *grin* Sannox! We're having a debate among duncan beard comments -- you think it would have been destroyed completely!

My brain has been melted by the journey and all I can do is lol at jibjabs and play on the internets, I'm sorry ;-/ I'd be all over this conversation if I wasn't so brain melty, as I got to wrangle out Missa/Zev end game stuff

soignee.  I'm glad the vacation was THAT good!  

s'my fault for drinking too much cider last night. We ended up getting the Wii out and LOLOLOL DANCE GAME LOLOLOL... I apparently won. IDK how. Maybe I activated my ~~~*~Awkward English Girl Rhythm~~*~ ? Who knows.

[Nonvita]

ejoslin wrote...

And yes, as a friend, he is still more
loyal and faithful than really is imaginable from when you first met
him.  And it's nothing to do with the oath -- that actually meant
nothing to him.  If you become friends with him, though, or his lover...
 Yeh, he's amazing.

Not only is it not about the oath, but you get major disapproval if that's the only thing you bring up later!

Although that reminds me--ejoslin, is there any way to add any extra lines to the post-Taliesan encounter where his approval is ~50? When I did it with my HN, the only two options to tell him you wanted him to stay were 1. "But you made an oath" and 2. "I want you to stay as a friend." The friend line did work for my HN, but it felt a little odd not to have something in between the two, maybe about the importance of defeating the blight or something. I dunno, just a thought.

ejoslin wrote...

Sannox wrote...
Zevran does show that it means more but has trouble expressing it. [paraphrase]

He could say it better and it's hurtful that he's still pretending things are casual. [paraphrase]

OK, I'm just going to discuss the actual line that ejoslin added, since you two seem to have the debate down pat.
I do think that the line is appropriate, and that it even fits in with his response to it. The fact is that he clearly has more emotions but is still trying to avoid discussing them. When you ask him if it means more, he basically just brushes it off as "Stop asking me about that and just take it," so if you refuse to take the earring on the grounds that it means a lot to you, I could imagine him reacting the way he does out of frustration that it forces him to admit his feelings later on. I don't think he would necessarily react differently just because you are expressing that your feelings are deeper, since the whole point is you both already know that. His reason for getting upset is completely centered around the fact that you are not letting him get away with not expressing his emotions.

It's understandable not wanting it to say, "I love you," but if it's just saying that you care deeply about it, then it doesn't seem out of place.

[UpiH]

Peace Offer #2

If this won't do, I will need Princess and Arlessa Isolde.

Modifié par UpiH, 02 mai 2010 - 07:34 .

[Sannox]

ejoslin wrote...

There are actually two reasons you can use to refuse the earring -- one is because you want the earring to mean something, the other is that you don't want the earring.  

And Zevran DOES have a better way to say it.  He is choosing not to at that point, for whatever reason.  He just isn't being honest there.  Again, I find the first offering of the earring hurtful.  I totally understand you not seeing it that way and I do understand your point of view on it.  It just has a different feel for me.  With the first offering of the earring, he goes out of his way to say he's NOT giving it as a commitment, that you should NOT get the wrong idea, it's just his way of saying thank you.  Of course I don't believe him, but what does accepting at that point say?  That you won't get the wrong idea, that it's ok that a gift like that is a "thank you" and that you really don't expect anything more?  It seems that way to me.

He has done his best to that point to make sure things are completely casual (to varying degrees of success depending on how you play it).

See, I don't think he's being honest at quite a few points in the game.  The earring is ONE place.  But with the earring, my warden has had enough of casual and is not willing to accept a gift that should have a lot of meaning unless that meaning can be spoken aloud.  But that's just the way I play it.  Your way is totally valid as well!

Edit: *grin* Sannox!  We're having a debate among duncan beard comments -- you think it would have been destroyed completely!

I like being in among the Jib-Jabs!   I am watching them too!  .

'Don't get the wrong idea about it' is the most negative thing he says there, but it depends how you take it.  And it maybe depends on the previous dialogue.  Given that he may have just made a commitment and you haven't reciprocated, it could be taken as 'Don't worry, I'm not asking anything of you'.   I get the impression that he is doing what he feels rather than what he thinks, there.   He really wants to give you the earring.  Of course he doesn't want you to sell it - but he gives you permission to do so, he's not making you commit to anything by accepting it. 

'It's meant a lot to me'.  I would love to know more about that.  Why has it meant so much to him?  What is the symbolism?  It was his first job and it's implied that he had sex with the guy.  No wonder he is confused.   I'd like to know exactly what it meant to him, but maybe he doesn't know himself.   But I think it's clear in the conversation that the warden means a lot to him, and even that the gift means a lot. 

I just don't see it as dishonesty.   I can see how it can be seen that way.  But from his voice and expression, I don't feel he's trying to deceive.   And also from the conversation later, it becomes clear that he couldn't make the 'love' connection then - not for lack of it, but because of the associations for him.  

But ... in real life, I'm pretty gullible.  So maybe I'm just really bad at picking up on his dishonesty.  With that voice, he could say anything and I'd melt.  His soft tone when he says that he has no better way to say it is lovely.   I completely believe that he has no better way to say it.  

Yes, I do think it's OK to accept it, however it's presented (for my wardens - so far, anyway).   Even if he just said that he thought it would suit the warden, that would be fine.   Even if it was a 'thank you' - saving him from the Crows is a big deal.  And he has just been given freedom and chosen to stay with the warden anyway.   And he still talks about his feelings later, when he's able to.  

[Minaleth]

*reads the whole earring conversation but has nothing to add, nods to Sannox*