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What's the (Romantic) Appeal of Zevran?


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#26176
Sannox

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Edited: As my post was such a conversation stopper, I've deleted it.  It didn't make much sense anyway.  Just me showing my ignorance. I'll leave the picture page topper, though.

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And this would be a picture post. 

I'm rushing in and out at the moment, so I'll just add a picture I like and hopefully remember to change it something more on topic later!

ETA: Change of picture to something more appropriate.  Although half-naked guy might be back on Friday.   I was looking at the new Zevran pictures on DA and I thought the guy on the left looked familiar!

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I can't seem to get the picture itself to link back to DA.

Modifié par Sannox, 04 mai 2010 - 06:31 .


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ejoslin wrote...

Ok, onto NOT serious stuff here. The whole earring/friendship speech got me thinking, so I redid my changes to Charsen's DT compatible ZevRing again and I'll toss up a rapid share link in case anyone is interested in it.

NO change to the earring conversation (I will make one if someone wants it, though).
In the friendship speech, the romance starter line only appears if you're not in a romance with him (I consider you more than a friend). If you ARE in love with him already, you get a line, "I consider you a friend, and more," and this will lead to his friendship dialog there (then allow me to say this, what we are doing blah blah blah).
When he forces a warden to choose between him and Leliana, you get his "non-sex" version no matter what. This is because the had-sex version has line the line, "I know how it is with men and their women." It's ok for a male warden, NOT ok for a female warden. If someone wants this changed, I can do it, just ask. But since the only person I know for sure who is going to be using this is me, I'm not changing it now.
In Arl Eamon's estate, you now get the romance active lines if the romance is active, and yes, this includes the option to kiss (since this IS built on DT after all).
AND all first time sexytime leads to a kiss, not just a few of his comments.

It also fixes the bug introduced in DT .93a where if you change your mind the first time about going to the tent, then the dialog cuts off if you ask him again.  It no longer does that!

SO if you want this, and remember you NEED the DT compatible version of ZevRing for it to run, it's at http://rapidshare.co...vring.rar.html .

Just have the zevran_main.dlg overwrite the current zevran_main.dlg in your ZevRing or DT folder. If you're using the override version of ZevRing, just extract zevran_main.dlg into your override folder.

Edit: Thank you Charsen and Avaraen for making such great mods and making the B2Bs available so I can use and abuse them.  If anyone wants a different version of these changes, let me know.  However, seeing as switching from DT and DT-compatible files to non-DT and vice versa requires me completing reinstalling my toolset, once I unload the DT-compatible version of ZevRing, it's staying unloaded for awhile!


Thanks, ejoslin!  Your hard work is much appreciated.  :wub:

edited for spelling

Modifié par Eislyn, 04 mai 2010 - 05:52 .


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ejoslin wrote...

Ok, onto NOT serious stuff here. The whole earring/friendship speech got me thinking, so I redid my changes to Charsen's DT compatible ZevRing again and I'll toss up a rapid share link in case anyone is interested in it.


Thank you for this :).

Why is the toolset so frustrating?  (Not that I've really used it apart from just to look at.  And even then my computer doesn't seem to like it.  I'm just going on what I hear).  It seems silly to have to keep reinstalling it.  Is it because it's not designed for home users?   Did the game developers have these problems? 

The closest I've come to modding was with the game Thief, which I've just realise was back in the '90s!  I imagine games were a lot simpler then.  It was possible to make your own levels for the game and I played around with that. I remember it was fiddly, but it didn't seem nearly as bad as the DA toolset.  It seems so difficult to use.  

I'm grateful to you and others who brave it on our behalf! 

Modifié par Sannox, 04 mai 2010 - 05:56 .


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The pic from the top:

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#26180
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Tellervo wrote...

The pic from the top:

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Awwww it's lovely. :wub: You know Charsen's mage should be in more art, just sayin'.

#26181
soignee

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That artist has a lovely soft colour pallate range. Nice!

#26182
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Either we really like slashy Zevran fanart, or fanartists really like slashy Zevran fanart.

#26183
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Nitocris is really a talented artist, very surprised she went and made that for me, but i am very grateful, it's awesome and a sweet gift...makes losing my toolset work almost tolerable XD

edit
i dont think this is slash. my mage is not cannon. it's just a romance.

Modifié par Charsen, 04 mai 2010 - 07:29 .


#26184
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Wow, that is beautiful!

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I can't seem to get the picture itself to link back to DA.


Well! I was going to post a link to my drawing last night, but realised that I hadn't registered my game here yet! Now that it's fixed.. I can reply here. Huzzah!

I don't really have a fixation on Zev (my warden might have...) but this was a gift for my buddy.:D

#26186
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Like we need an excuse to draw Zev fanart :D *hugs other fanartists*

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Minaleth wrote...

Like we need an excuse to draw Zev fanart :D *hugs other fanartists*


What are you doing here?!  Back to the workbench!  Draw more! 

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@ Taralqua I hope I didn't jump the gun by posting it before you registered.   It was just so funny to see an instantly recognisable picture of Charsen's character, and I felt it had to be seen! It's a gorgeous picture.

Modifié par Sannox, 04 mai 2010 - 07:52 .


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Sannox wrote...

@ Taralqua I hope I didn't jump the gun by posting it before you registered.   It was just so funny to see an instantly recognisable picture of Charsen's character, and I felt it had to be seen! It's a gorgeous picture.


I appreciate it when people appreciate my CG. It's not my strong suit, I'm primarily a penciler. So no worries, I'm just happy that you liked it enough to link it. <3

#26190
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Creature 1 wrote...

Minaleth wrote...
Like we need an excuse to draw Zev fanart :D *hugs other fanartists*

What are you doing here?!  Back to the workbench!  Draw more!  

As you wish! :wizard:

#26191
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soignee wrote...

That artist has a lovely soft colour pallate range. Nice!


What are you doing here?!

::throws shoes::

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Tellervo wrote...

soignee wrote...

That artist has a lovely soft colour pallate range. Nice!


What are you doing here?!

::throws shoes::

Oh, good point.  *hefts shoe* 

#26193
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eucatastrophe wrote...

Girl tanks are rare!:o

It's why everyone loved Mhairi so much. Image IPB

#26194
soignee

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oww, shoes hurt :( and you're throwing really ugly ones too.

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soignee wrote...

oww, shoes hurt :( and you're throwing really ugly ones too.


To make you flee back to your box in terror.

#26196
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Sarah1281 wrote...

eucatastrophe wrote...

Girl tanks are rare!:o

It's why everyone loved Mhairi so much. Image IPB


"every one" ? seriously she did nothing for me

now shale on the otherhand is awesome

#26197
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God I love Shale so much <3 <3 SHE IS QUEEN OF ANGRY SNARK

#26198
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soignee wrote...

God I love Shale so much <3 <3 SHE IS QUEEN OF ANGRY SNARK


shame it takes you freaking forever to get he best equips...

seriously some one should mod it so you can get brilliant crystals much earlier

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

eucatastrophe wrote...

Girl tanks are rare!:o

It's why everyone loved Mhairi so much. Image IPB


"every one" ? seriously she did nothing for me

now shale on the otherhand is awesome

I didn't like her either because she seemed like she would have disapproved of everything I did that wasn't 'by the book' which is pretty much...most of the things I end up doing. I remember the threads, though, the week Awakening came out...people wondering whether it was their fault for gaining/losing approval or accepting Oghren/Anders that got Mhairi killed even though it makes no freaking sense that their actions have anything to do with whether she could physically handle the Joining.

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Yendi wrote...

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I'm not sure what a typical woman is, but if you write a female character she doesn't have to be one.  Thedas in some ways is remarkably liberated (because there are a lot of female gamers!) 


I suppose it’s less of that here than in the typical medival fantasy world or game community. There are some small dialogue changes in the game itself though and so far I always preferred the male conversations. I've seen a few good examples of people writing female characters that act differently than expected but it just that it seems harder to do than to than to write a male character.


I still don't quite get what you're saying. Are you talking about how some characters (like Murdock or Howe for a HN) will say something about how there aren't many women fighters and doubt you because of it? Or do people in other communities act like you can't play the game because of your gender?