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[sami jo]

Edited because this is silly to argue about.  I think I'll just agree to disagree.

Modifié par sami jo, 20 mai 2010 - 05:03 .

[sami jo]

Edited to put in bunny pics because I swore I wasn't going to do this.

Modifié par sami jo, 20 mai 2010 - 05:16 .

[Sarah1281]

You need to remember that the history is only alleged to have happened the way its portrayed. Just like the codex entries - this is what is believed to have happened (but may not have). The full story behind Dragon Age will not be known until the entire DA story is told. Most of what is known in Origins comes from the Chantry. Even Leiliana doesn't believe everything the Chantry says.

One final thing: you're saying that you think the Dales might have helped in the Blight after all? That sounds like a pretty big revision and the Dales not helping couldn't be used as the Chantry's excuse to go after them within the lifetimes of the people who lived through the Second Blight as they'd actually remember what happened. Besides, the fact that the invasion was so close to the end of the Second Blight implies that the Chantry was able to use the Dales' lack of help (for whatever reason) to spur on an exalted march. If, say, the Chantry tried to declare an exalted march on the new Dalish homeland at Ostagar within the next thirty years or so they'd probably have a harder time if only because people know that they played a part in stopping the Blight.

[Sarah1281]

And really...the SECOND blight?!?!?! That was thousands of years ago.

And so was the fall of the Dales. You can't say that the humans should get over the Dales' refusal to help if the Dalish won't get over the sacking of their homeland during the same time period although they can, of course, still feel free to be bitter about their status as second-class citizens.

[Darthnemesis2]

This thread needs more

and less angry yelling...

[Charsen]

ejoslin wrote...

Charsen wrote...

ejoslin wrote...
I the Alithread ever since I learned about vagazzling there!  I'm still trying to think WHY someone would do such a thing, but hell, it never would have occurred to me that such a thing existed without them!

............dare i ask?

I think it's actually vajazzling, and ummm, probably not 

Edit: Herr Uhl, close, but I think a good wax job would actually be necessary.  Have you ever heard of the kid clothing decorator "Bedazzler" or something like that?  Well, yeh.

.... oh...oh... *comprehension*

[Sarah1281]

and less angry yelling...

I'm not angry.

[Darthnemesis2]

I didn't say any names, did I? ;P

[sami jo]

Sarah1281 wrote...

And really...the SECOND blight?!?!?! That was thousands of years ago.

And so was the fall of the Dales. You can't say that the humans should get over the Dales' refusal to help if the Dalish won't get over the sacking of their homeland during the same time period although they can, of course, still feel free to be bitter about their status as second-class citizens.

This strikes a nerve with me, and I know why, so I am going to drop out of this. 

I spent a rather large chunk of my childhood on my grandfathers "farm" on a reservation.  He was a tribal elder.  Much about the Dalish reminds me of that, both good and bad.  People on the reservation are extraordinarily leery of outsiders, even those from other tribes.  This is often to their detriment, but the caution comes from bitter experience. 

There is something very personal about having your culture forcibly ripped from you, being enslaved, and then being treated worse than livestock.  The humans rebuilt.  The elves have never been allowed to.

[Kryyptehk]

Charsen wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Charsen wrote...

ejoslin wrote...
I the Alithread ever since I learned about vagazzling there!  I'm still trying to think WHY someone would do such a thing, but hell, it never would have occurred to me that such a thing existed without them!

............dare i ask?

I think it's actually vajazzling, and ummm, probably not 

Edit: Herr Uhl, close, but I think a good wax job would actually be necessary.  Have you ever heard of the kid clothing decorator "Bedazzler" or something like that?  Well, yeh.

.... oh...oh... *comprehension*

I can't tear my eyes away. I just keep watching it over and over again. That's a pretty awesome clip:lol:

[Charsen]

sami jo wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

And really...the SECOND blight?!?!?! That was thousands of years ago.

And so was the fall of the Dales. You can't say that the humans should get over the Dales' refusal to help if the Dalish won't get over the sacking of their homeland during the same time period although they can, of course, still feel free to be bitter about their status as second-class citizens.

This strikes a nerve with me, and I know why, so I am going to drop out of this. 

I spent a rather large chunk of my childhood on my grandfathers "farm" on a reservation.  He was a tribal elder.  Much about the Dalish reminds me of that, both good and bad.  People on the reservation are extraordinarily leery of outsiders, even those from other tribes.  This is often to their detriment, but the caution comes from bitter experience. 

There is something very personal about having your culture forcibly ripped from you, being enslaved, and then being treated worse than livestock.  The humans rebuilt.  The elves have never been allowed to.

yep i have avoided saying the same thing for a while now. the comparison is pretty obvious, even to the city elves (as many indians were forced/lied to/coerced into relocating to work ghettos in the cities during the 40s-60s too)

Modifié par Charsen, 20 mai 2010 - 05:40 .

[Arundor]

Edit: Sorry, I missed a few things while I was typing that up.  I realize it's a sensitive subject so I'll drop it.

Modifié par Arundor, 20 mai 2010 - 05:54 .

[Sarah1281]

sami jo wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

And really...the SECOND blight?!?!?! That was thousands of years ago.

And so was the fall of the Dales. You can't say that the humans should get over the Dales' refusal to help if the Dalish won't get over the sacking of their homeland during the same time period although they can, of course, still feel free to be bitter about their status as second-class citizens.

This strikes a nerve with me, and I know why, so I am going to drop out of this. 

I spent a rather large chunk of my childhood on my grandfathers "farm" on a reservation.  He was a tribal elder.  Much about the Dalish reminds me of that, both good and bad.  People on the reservation are extraordinarily leery of outsiders, even those from other tribes.  This is often to their detriment, but the caution comes from bitter experience. 

There is something very personal about having your culture forcibly ripped from you, being enslaved, and then being treated worse than livestock.  The humans rebuilt.  The elves have never been allowed to.

 I didn't mean to offend you and I don't think the Dalish treatment was at all acceptable just that in this particular case they were not completely innocent either and that their bitterness contributes towards their horrible relations with others, though even if they did try to be more welcoming their would likely still be problems as evidenced by the tale of the DE father.

[sami jo]

Charsen wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Charsen wrote...

ejoslin wrote...
I the Alithread ever since I learned about vagazzling there!  I'm still trying to think WHY someone would do such a thing, but hell, it never would have occurred to me that such a thing existed without them!

............dare i ask?

I think it's actually vajazzling, and ummm, probably not 

Edit: Herr Uhl, close, but I think a good wax job would actually be necessary.  Have you ever heard of the kid clothing decorator "Bedazzler" or something like that?  Well, yeh.

.... oh...oh... *comprehension*

:blink: Comprehension just hit.  That is....hmmm...learn something new every day.  Not what I would choose to add "bling" to, but then again, even my engagement ring was a plain band (at my request), so clearly I missed the girly gene associated with sparkly things.

[Nonvita]

Herr Uhl wrote...

All of these hairdos makes me miss Princess.

Stupid Nonvita with her stupid life *mumbles incoherently*.

I hope by this you mean you miss me. Aw, Herr, you're so sweet.
And the reason that hairstyle looks so ridiculous is because ONLY PRINCESS IS AMAZING ENOUGH FOR IT.


Ejoslin, that vaggirazzledazzle BS is really scary. Just...why.

[Charsen]

i bet princess has a vabejazzler thing

[Sarah1281]

And the reason that hairstyle looks so ridiculous is because ONLY PRINCESS IS AMAZING ENOUGH FOR IT.

And speaking of...

[Cuddlezarro]

Nonvita wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

All of these hairdos makes me miss Princess.

Stupid Nonvita with her stupid life *mumbles incoherently*.

I hope by this you mean you miss me. Aw, Herr, you're so sweet.
And the reason that hairstyle looks so ridiculous is because ONLY PRINCESS IS AMAZING ENOUGH FOR IT.


Ejoslin, that vaggirazzledazzle BS is really scary. Just...why.

Princess? pfft Princess Coustair surley is the only woman man enough for such hair!

unless your talking about some other princess no one knows about :3

[Verly]

that's one of the scariest things I've ever heard of. First I come in here this morning and read about women actually thinking what men's parts look like is any of their business and now I read about women who...ummm decorate thier own. I'm officially scared of the Ali thread and I've never gone in there. lol and I like Ali..just not even close to how much I love Zev.

[Nonvita]

Charsen wrote...

i bet princess has a vabejazzler thing

Now that you have me thinking about it, I bet the carpet does match the curtains... And yes, you're probably right.


OK now here is my ****ty response to all this BS about elves not having asses. It was going to be an awesome response except that drawing with a TRACKPAD on the computer (in 5 minutes) is NO FUN so it looks like CRAP. STILL. MY ELF HAS AN ASS NOW LEAVE ME ALONE OK.
That ass is dwarf approved.

I SAID LEAVE ME ALONE *cries*

Edit: Yes I do respond to stuff from a week ago. STOP JUDGING ME.

Modifié par Nonvita, 20 mai 2010 - 06:08 .

[sami jo]

Sarah1281 wrote...

sami jo wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

And really...the SECOND blight?!?!?! That was thousands of years ago.

And so was the fall of the Dales. You can't say that the humans should get over the Dales' refusal to help if the Dalish won't get over the sacking of their homeland during the same time period although they can, of course, still feel free to be bitter about their status as second-class citizens.

This strikes a nerve with me, and I know why, so I am going to drop out of this. 

I spent a rather large chunk of my childhood on my grandfathers "farm" on a reservation.  He was a tribal elder.  Much about the Dalish reminds me of that, both good and bad.  People on the reservation are extraordinarily leery of outsiders, even those from other tribes.  This is often to their detriment, but the caution comes from bitter experience. 

There is something very personal about having your culture forcibly ripped from you, being enslaved, and then being treated worse than livestock.  The humans rebuilt.  The elves have never been allowed to.

 I didn't mean to offend you and I don't think the Dalish treatment was at all acceptable just that in this particular case they were not completely innocent either and that their bitterness contributes towards their horrible relations with others, though even if they did try to be more welcoming their would likely still be problems as evidenced by the tale of the DE father.

I'm not offended, I just realized why I was getting so worked up about it.  There are some striking parallels with the Jewish side of my family as well in the Dalish origin.